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Tempest Hypheus	Posted - 2008.04.25 11:27:00 - [1] Is it such a bad idea?? I just finished reading 'Bloodlines' Star wars book just recently :) my other imaginative world I spend some time in and was thinking about comparing situations: Star Wars: Boba Fett flys into Coruscant contracted to kill a leader of the Corellian Government, vapes the guy leaves and is paid millions plus rep stays up as the best bounty hunter in the galaxy Eve: Boba Fett flys into Jita contracted to kill a CEO of a corp, vapes the guy, sec stat drops -4.0 paid millions, shortly concorded, known as a suicidal merc How about... Boba Fett flys in under a Concord Bounty Hunter temporary license valid for so many days per so much isk. Allowed to shoot only the contracted target. Flys in, vapes target, gets paid via contract, and reputation goes up for Boba Fett. I dream of the day I might be allowed to fly into Jita to get the bear who flys in high sec. Meh may not happen but dreams are dreams and in saying that I'll keep on dreamin :)
Navtiqes Noob Mercs	Posted - 2008.04.25 11:38:00 - [2] Edited by: Navtiqes on 25/04/2008 11:42:15 Well, it does makes more sense than how it currently is. Not to steal your thunder, but speaking of Star Wars.. Star Wars Galaxies had a robust, but sound bounty hunter system: You went to a terminal. Picked a bounty mission and you got a guy with a bounty on his head. It says what planet to go to and you go there to scan him down for an exact location. It'd translate pretty well into Eve if they really wanted to. Killing a player with a bounty in SWG netted nothing if you didn't have the bounty mission for him, which in turn ment only licensed hunters could claim bounties and it was very hard picking a specific person (I think names were anonomous). Not that I care how it is in Eve. I'll keep playing the way I do regardless. ..just saying what it was like over there ;)
Ordon Gundar Caldari Impending Doom Inc. The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2008.04.25 13:00:00 - [3] That would be awesome! Sounds like SWG have got it sussed. You could also have standing with bounty hunter agents. When the player reaches a certain level of standing, specialist weaponry and modules become available. Contracts could also be able to be concluded in ANY sec system, because the hit would be in the interests of security. I also think you would need to train specialist tracking skills, which could also be selected at character creation if wanted. "Stay Small..Fly Fast..Keep Your Ship" - Ordon Gundar - Low Sec Survivalist & CEO of Danger Zone Enterprises
Elida Amarr Nightsisters	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:33:00 - [4] oh dude, how i loved the BH system in SWG when they got it working. here some best of's from me pwnage1 pwnage2 pwnage3 pwnage4 pwnage5 and my own jedi orchee anyone here ex-Gorath swg?
Havohej Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood	Posted - 2008.04.25 15:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Elida Edited by: Elida on 25/04/2008 15:36:34 oh dude, how i loved the BH system in SWG when they got it working. here some best of's from me pwnage1 pwnage2 pwnage3 pwnage4 pwnage5 and my own jedi orchee anyone here ex-Gorath swg? I never actually played this game, and when I went to DL/insteal the trial to check it out, the freakin launcher thing wanted like 20 days of D/Ling just to upgrade through all the patches and I just couldn't be bothered... seeing those screens, though, makes me wish I'd played it - looks like bounty hunting might've been a hell of a fun bit of PvP. л┬╥▬─ ~ ~ ~
Gourdo Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.25 16:11:00 - [6] Yeah I miss playing SWG. I loved that game. Too bad it does not exist anymore. I loved having all the pets at my command. My Durni was a real killer. Until they changed the way bioengineering worked. Then he went form level 7 to level 26 rating.
Kage Toshimado Kage Clan	Posted - 2008.04.25 20:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Elida Edited by: Elida on 25/04/2008 15:36:34 and my own jedi orchee why does your jedi looks like a balerina? (with a robot arm)
Xunlao Blackthorne Gallente	Posted - 2008.04.25 21:23:00 - [8] SWG is nothing of what it used to be, it is now sadly only a mere shadow of its much greater predecessor. However, the Bounty System was good nice idea!
Elida Amarr Nightsisters	Posted - 2008.04.25 21:32:00 - [9] Originally by: Kage Toshimado Originally by: Elida Edited by: Elida on 25/04/2008 15:36:34 and my own jedi orchee why does your jedi looks like a balerina? (with a robot arm) n00b, thats not a robot arm, it was one of the most-wanted-rare items back then, a nightsisters-bracer... so, look at my corp-name man, i miss that game, with every content patch it got worse and worse, so at the end of 2004 i sold my acc. and started eve. but i bought myself some weeks ago an FX-Lightsaber, just for the ignition sound, love it... ballerina? you know, they can bend and do fancy things with their body. btw. selling sentinels.
Talic Xeron Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.25 21:37:00 - [10] Yes, SWG was quite the game before SOE decided to kill it... repeatedly. Anyways, back on topic, I do think that a system like the one you describe / a SWG-esque one would fit quite nicely into eve. If we take the SWG one, it would make perfect sense if the terminal for instance gave you the last station that a ship owned by said criminal was docked at, at least in empire. Concord is everywhere, they would have access to logs like such.

CoLe Blackblood Transnational Speedway League	Posted - 2008.04.26 13:04:00 - [11] It might be a way to gain sec status. If a pirate picks up a bounty for another flashy in .4 or below he could up his sec with a successful bounty. SWG had weird hit detection and movement. Screenshots look nice but the games movement and the fact that you could not use objects for cover, even though you had to run around them, was not to fun. The space PVP was annoying to setup.
Orrelious Minmatar The Umbrella Union Fleet	Posted - 2008.04.26 16:59:00 - [12] Would be nice to see a simple but effective bounty hunting system, to add some spice.
umah	Posted - 2008.04.27 00:50:00 - [13] Good Idea, Bounty contracts were proposed in 2003 by me and others, CCP had bigger fish to fry, maybe its time has come....
T'Renn Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.04.27 09:48:00 - [14] best idea I've heard on this subject for a long time actually. --
Max Torps Gallente eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.04.27 10:16:00 - [15] Originally by: T'Renn best idea I've heard on this subject for a long time actually. It's a good idea. I've posted a similar one here. In that, you get a contract to kill a mark. That marks corp receives notification they cannot assist him without a sec status hit (as Concord have licensed you to kill him) ostensibly this is to prevent him having a gang of 50 waiting for a lone BH but would need work such as a warning to any other people he gangs with saying he's a criminal target and for them to take a sec status hit too. You also cannot gang (maybe or maybe a limit). Anyway, it would also include the ability for a BH target to pay off Concord directly, nullufying the contract but you get a split. Also some tension builders in the system where locator agents you use to find the target "snitch" letting the target know someone is coming for them. Obviously, this all needs discussion, debate and a lot of feasibility work with CCP. But if I do make it onto the CSM please bring it up with me via the CSM forum. EvE blogspace, free! Max Torps CSM Candidate
Koro Kar'Amarr Amarr Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.04.27 11:12:00 - [16] Yes - this idea is obvious, simple, perfect. Had it on my mind myself.
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess	Posted - 2008.04.27 11:17:00 - [17] You put a bounty on someone, they get an evemail notifying that, someone picks up the bounty contract, the target is also notifyed The bounty-hunter shows up as a wartarget to you and anyone who is in your fleet (bounties shouldnt be THAT easy) Bounty-hunter kills the mark and collects on him.
Tom Harry	Posted - 2008.04.27 11:56:00 - [18] in swg you could only put bounties on people after they killed you. this was to stop non pvp people being abused by the bounty hunter system.
Gavin Darklighter THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.04.27 12:49:00 - [19] The way I see it you have to code it so that the person putting up the bounty picks who he wants to hire, more like a hit contract than a bounty really.
Talic Xeron Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.04.27 23:41:00 - [20] Or, you could have two different things, one bounty system where it's a public contract. And another built-in system where you can hire someone to do a hit on a specific target.

EnslaverOfMinmatar Amarr Adv Asteroid Mining and RD Sobaseki Corporation	Posted - 2008.04.28 00:32:00 - [21] Are you talking about bounty hunters that kill people with bounties on their heads or an assassination contract?
Msgerbs Gallente White Moon Industries	Posted - 2008.04.28 04:38:00 - [22] One potential flaw: Player A sees Player B mining in highsec. Player A docks, bounties Player B, grabs the contract, kills Player B. Or, if you cant take your own bounties, then this: Player A sees Player B mining in highsec. Alt A docks, bounties Player B, Player A grabs the contract, kills Player B. Notice he used an alt this time.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2008.04.28 05:46:00 - [23] I'm on a one man mission, so listen. Tards, SOE didn't kill SWG, except that they made the game in such a way that it was impossible to collapse servers when the populations got low. That kind of was the coup d'gras, which is SOEs fault... though arguably, that had to do with the robustness of the original crafting system. Yes the NGE sucked. No argument there. However, the NGE wasn't SOE's idea, it was Lucas arts. Not only that but the idea for the NGE came along with a "make the NGE happen or we pull your license and kill the game." So SOE bent. Blame Lucas arts, not SOE. I'm sick of hearing it repeated over, and over, and over again that the NGE was SOEs fault. It simply isn't the case. -Karlemgne
Navtiqes Noob Mercs	Posted - 2008.04.28 07:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Msgerbs One potential flaw: Player A sees Player B mining in highsec. Player A docks, bounties Player B, grabs the contract, kills Player B. Or, if you cant take your own bounties, then this: Player A sees Player B mining in highsec. Alt A docks, bounties Player B, Player A grabs the contract, kills Player B. Notice he used an alt this time. If done SWG style then this exploit won't be possible for the following reasons: The bounty hunter system only gave out locations and waypoints to the "mark". It didn't offer names so you only know where to go, not who you were hunting. - In Eve that could mean the BH-system helps narrow down his region, then you'll have to look for a nick in the local systems with a special "mark" icon attached. Like mentioned before: You could only put a bounty on the head of someone right after they killed you. Bounties stacked though, so if someone was really out of controll he'd be worth alot and get flagged on the system for a bunch of BHs. This in turn ment that the guy had to run around in combat gear expecting to be jumped at any corner.
sliver 0xD exiles.	Posted - 2008.04.28 10:22:00 - [25] Originally by: Msgerbs One potential flaw: Player A sees Player B mining in highsec. Player A docks, bounties Player B, grabs the contract, kills Player B. Or, if you cant take your own bounties, then this: Player A sees Player B mining in highsec. Alt A docks, bounties Player B, Player A grabs the contract, kills Player B. Notice he used an alt this time. lets say someone wants someone else dead. hires a bounty hunter. we are talkign 1vs1 here. you go to station set up a contract. contracts like in wars pay off concords administration cost to avoid the 2 partys to be shot. for 1vs1 concord will obviously want more. lets say concord fee will be like 25 to 50 mil. + bounty price :) could be worth it if you realy realy want someone dead. (witch in my eyes is still a big flaw in eve becouse cant realy get revange) the target gets a mail from concord saying: a bounty hunter has been hired to assasinate you in the next 24 hours you will be shootable by the <bounty hunter> for a period of 7 days :) have a nice week :) like wars but targeted to a solo player. also beats the wardec corp hop bug. can we also add a list of top bounty hunters. like the list of most wanted players. but then the bounty hunters who made the most bounty. --- Somebody needs a hug!
Isaak Inkati	Posted - 2008.04.28 16:44:00 - [26] Oh how i miss swg. What server where you guys from? I was from bria :)
SikSiks Gallente The M Corporation Xenotech Celestial Coalition	Posted - 2008.04.28 17:37:00 - [27] My best Bounty I loved being a BH, took alot of pratice to get good though. sig Question my Brains, Never my balls
Kage Toshimado Kage Clan	Posted - 2008.04.28 18:55:00 - [28] Originally by: Elida Originally by: Kage Toshimado Originally by: Elida Edited by: Elida on 25/04/2008 15:36:34 and my own jedi orchee why does your jedi looks like a balerina? (with a robot arm) n00b, thats not a robot arm, it was one of the most-wanted-rare items back then, a nightsisters-bracer... so, look at my corp-name man, i miss that game, with every content patch it got worse and worse, so at the end of 2004 i sold my acc. and started eve. but i bought myself some weeks ago an FX-Lightsaber, just for the ignition sound, love it... ballerina? you know, they can bend and do fancy things with their body. btw. selling sentinels. Don't get mad at me cuz ur ballerina jedi looks like a sissy. Just **** poor planning on your part.
Talic Xeron Caldari Caritas.	Posted - 2008.05.02 01:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Msgerbs One potential flaw: Player A sees Player B mining in highsec. Player A docks, bounties Player B, grabs the contract, kills Player B. Or, if you cant take your own bounties, then this: Player A sees Player B mining in highsec. Alt A docks, bounties Player B, Player A grabs the contract, kills Player B. Notice he used an alt this time. Well, as it is now, you can only have a bounty placed on you if your sec status is -1.0 or below as far as I know. So, if you ask me, you should be able to be bountied if you have a -1 or less no matter where you are. Or, you could have it so you can place a bounty but it doesn't show up for say another hour or so, or even a day. That way it would cut down on what you described.
Rellana DAB	Posted - 2008.05.02 05:05:00 - [30] Maybe they could introduce this method to get rid of the current horde of macroers,or at least thin them a bit.



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