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Qen Tye Ministry of War Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.03.01 13:07:00 - [1] - Quote Just saw below remark from other thread. Quote: Bots exist because ice mining in high sec is (outside of ganking) completely risk free and exceptionally easy to perform Is it even possible to mine ice in high sec areas ? I thought it was only in 0.3 and lower it was possible. *I'm back after a years break and cant remember much other than I was training for ice mining.
Velicitia Open Designs 706	Posted - 2012.03.01 13:12:00 - [2] - Quote yeah, there's ice in hisec. pretty low-yield though 300 'topes (varies by race) 50 heavy water 25 liquid ozone 1 stront
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 355	Posted - 2012.03.01 15:52:00 - [3] - Quote Qen Tye wrote: Is it even possible to mine ice in high sec areas ? I thought it was only in 0.3 and lower it was possible. Moons are .3 and below. Ice is .7 and below. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Vito Tattaglia New Paradigm Inc. Mass Consortium Alliance 27	Posted - 2012.03.02 04:08:00 - [4] - Quote It's definitely possible, Ice Fields appear in 0.7 and below. They're pretty low pay out, (250k per raw block of ice compared to 300k for a Strip Cycle worth of raw Veldspar) but Ice fields are often checked much less often than belts by gankers, and many corps actually use the ice for a POS.
Brock Nelson 389	Posted - 2012.03.02 04:32:00 - [5] - Quote I guess we all forgot about Goonswarm's campaign... Signature removed, CCP Phantom
Qen Tye Ministry of War Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.03.02 06:35:00 - [6] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: [Moons are .3 and below. Ice is .7 and below. Cheers! That cleared it up for me and dont have to feel I wasted skill points trained it.
Cyniac Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance 159	Posted - 2012.03.02 13:48:00 - [7] - Quote Brock Nelson wrote: I guess we all forgot about Goonswarm's campaign... Never heard of them. What are you talking about Brock?
Celgar Thurn Department 10 26	Posted - 2012.03.02 14:32:00 - [8] - Quote Vito Tattaglia wrote: It's definitely possible, Ice Fields appear in 0.7 and below. They're pretty low pay out, (250k per raw block of ice compared to 300k for a Strip Cycle worth of raw Veldspar) but Ice fields are often checked much less often than belts by gankers, and many corps actually use the ice for a POS. Actually regarding high sec systems you are far more likely to be suicide ganked in a Ice Belt as it is more likely for the exhumers there to be afk. Nakugard being a case in point. Asteroid belts in systems that contain ice belts will also tend to be more dangerous.
Celgar Thurn Department 10 26	Posted - 2012.03.02 14:33:00 - [9] - Quote Cyniac wrote: Brock Nelson wrote: I guess we all forgot about Goonswarm's campaign... Never heard of them. What are you talking about Brock? Ewww. That's like saying 'Candyman' in the bathroom mirror.
Steve Ronuken Fuzzwork Enterprises 260	Posted - 2012.03.02 16:03:00 - [10] - Quote Cyniac wrote: Brock Nelson wrote: I guess we all forgot about Goonswarm's campaign... Never heard of them. What are you talking about Brock? Damn shame you're not in Goonswarm yourself would have been funnier. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities.
Cain Blazed Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2012.03.02 16:30:00 - [11] - Quote Ice mining in highsec is not risk free, you need very little to gank a mackinaw.. Recently it seems to be a surge in killing ice miners.. Lot of the people i know, stopped completly their mining, Questioning if they even should continue to play the game since its so easy to grief them.. I sortoff understand, their ship can't handle the smallest amounts of aggression ^^
Bugsy VanHalen Society of lost Souls 57	Posted - 2012.03.02 18:37:00 - [12] - Quote Qen Tye wrote: Just saw below remark from other thread. Quote: Bots exist because ice mining in high sec is (outside of ganking) completely risk free and exceptionally easy to perform Is it even possible to mine ice in high sec areas ? I thought it was only in 0.3 and lower it was possible. *I'm back after a years break and cant remember much other than I was training for ice mining. You are thinking moon mining, ice is like asteroid mining only it gets processed into isotopes and stuff for fuel.
Qen Tye Ministry of War Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.03.05 10:22:00 - [13] - Quote Cain Blazed wrote: Ice mining in highsec is not risk free, you need very little to gank a mackinaw.. Recently it seems to be a surge in killing ice miners.. Lot of the people i know, stopped completly their mining, Questioning if they even should continue to play the game since its so easy to grief them.. I sortoff understand, their ship can't handle the smallest amounts of aggression ^^ So should I go for it then ? On a side note seems pointless to gank ice miners since POs'es needs it for running, so would think most corps would be interested in ice miners, but guess they get it from own members.
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 361	Posted - 2012.03.05 11:23:00 - [14] - Quote Qen Tye wrote: Cain Blazed wrote: Ice mining in highsec is not risk free, you need very little to gank a mackinaw.. Recently it seems to be a surge in killing ice miners.. Lot of the people i know, stopped completly their mining, Questioning if they even should continue to play the game since its so easy to grief them.. I sortoff understand, their ship can't handle the smallest amounts of aggression ^^ So should I go for it then ? On a side note seems pointless to gank ice miners since POs'es needs it for running, so would think most corps would be interested in ice miners, but guess they get it from own members. Welp, on that note its also rather pointless to Gank regular miners since almost everything in the game depends on the minerals for manufacturing. Unless they are botting.............. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
astara989 Push Mineral Extraction Push Interstellar Network 27	Posted - 2012.03.05 20:27:00 - [15] - Quote Anyone know roughly isk/hour for ice vs mining?
Avasa Siuu House Aratus Fatal Ascension 3	Posted - 2012.03.06 15:23:00 - [16] - Quote Brock Nelson wrote: I guess we all forgot about Goonswarm's campaign... ice interdiction ftw.
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 364	Posted - 2012.03.07 11:30:00 - [17] - Quote astara989 wrote: Anyone know roughly isk/hour for ice vs mining? An Orca-load of Ice refined then sold is about 22 million. Values on an Orca of Minerals varies considerably, obviously. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity"
Substantia Nigra NFI industrial Revival Of The Talocan Empire 598	Posted - 2012.03.08 01:53:00 - [18] - Quote I run POSes in empire and in w-space, so I need ice products. While pure economic rationalism would argue that in fifteen or so minutes I can clear enough sleepers to buy a half dozen orca loads of ice, I still quite like to undock the orca and a couple macks occasionally and gather me some hisec ice. There has been a recent surge in ice-belt ganking. This has shifted from small destroyer groups, 2 or 3 at a time, to larger groups of very new characters in cruisers / destroyers. There's nothing subtle about their approach so, unless you're botting or major AFK, they're easy enough to avoid ... a PITA all the same though. We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread

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