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annoing
Amarr MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.26 21:30:00 -
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So here we have it linkage, sex is responsible for "drugs, gangs, alcohol and abusive anger". So stop it and stop it right NOW you dirty little boy .. it'll drop off and you'll go blind you naughty thing you..... Lordy lordy the religious right have the answer!
Dwi Cymraig
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.04.26 21:32:00 -
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That's okay. The British government is trying to blame ****ography for the same kind of things. Check The Register for details. ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag |

Shanzem
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.26 21:43:00 -
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lol @ thread.
    
Education, Education , Adults , Adults , respect, respect,
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Sodium Phosphate
Gallente Ganja Labs Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.26 21:48:00 -
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What are you gunna blame it on then?
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Shanzem
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.26 21:48:00 -
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True.. someone always needs to take the blame..
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.04.26 21:52:00 -
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Quote: That's okay. The British government is trying to blame ****ography for the same kind of things. Check The Register for details.
onoes my ****!
seriously though, this does tick me off - it's a ridiculous historic trend in this country to go around banning things to some arbitrary measure of taste. Do we all really want to be sexually repressed? As consenting adults, why is someone dictatating to us what images are/and aren't harmful? I'm pretty sure I can make that decision on my own. It's outrageous and patronising that anyone should think of doing it for me.
as for a link between ****ography and violence that's damnably stupid.
Quote: In her speech, the Baroness commented that "the Minister is in danger of leading his Government into becoming the thought police... we do not have any evidence to justify an intrusion in people's lives".
damn tootin'
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.04.26 21:55:00 -
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To be fair to the stupid person quoted in the article he was actually comparing them saying they were all about self control, not drawing a causal relationship or even a correlation.
Stupid people. Any strategy based on convincing teenagers (or indeed anybody) not to want to have sex is a losing proposition. They should spend the money on proper sex education and free condoms in schools instead. EVE RELATED CONTENT |

Shanzem
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.26 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Adonis 4174 That's okay. The British government is trying to blame ****ography for the same kind of things. Check The Register for details.
Whats wrong with ****  -------------------------------------------
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Keorythe
Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.04.26 22:35:00 -
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Quote: Valerie Huber, chief executive of the National Abstinence Education Association, says only one in four schools teaches abstinence - the vast majority use comprehensive sex education.
That, she says is the real reason for the rise in STDs and teenage pregnancies.
Wait, wait...why the heck is it the schools fault? Are the schools going to be in charge of potty training next? I hate the fact that the parents aren't even considered in any of this. Sad state of affairs when so many lazy people rely on the state to teach them what were once basic things your dad spelled out for you. |

DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.26 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 26/04/2008 22:45:02 The best part of all this is the op squarely yells at Americans then points you to the British BBC for news. Durrrr. Besides MOST schools here don't teach abstinence only programs. I think that stuff is taught at catholic schools mainly. |

Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.04.26 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shanzem
Originally by: Adonis 4174 That's okay. The British government is trying to blame ****ography for the same kind of things. Check The Register for details.
Whats wrong with **** 
Having had to endure lunch in the same room as some of the psychologists who support this it goes along these lines.
If you interview a dangerous sex offender and they admit to loving really nasty **** then they will prove more likely to reoffend.
Reoffending is measured by whether they get reconvicted. Not convicted, didn't do it. Anyone else think that admitting to a shrink that you love really nasty **** demonstrates a tendency to confess to things or that confessing to things makes you more likely to get convicted? Naah, couldn't be that. |

annoing
Amarr MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.26 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 26/04/2008 22:45:02 The best part of all this is the op squarely yells at Americans then points you to the British BBC for news. Durrrr. Besides MOST schools here don't teach abstinence only programs. I think that stuff is taught at catholic schools mainly.
Troll much or just plain stupid? Obviously, as i'm British, i'm going to be reading the British news and directing you to British news sites. Durrrr. As you are a dimwit with the wit, brains and personality of a glass of water, let me try to explain. Its a joke thread pointedly laughing at the right-wing religious fruit who compares the urge for sex as responsible for gangs, alcohol etc. As for the teaching of abstinence in some of your schools, whether they be Catholic or not and my opinion of that, is a moot point in this thread. You sir fail miserably and here I am wishing that your parents had practiced abstinence rather than your conception. 
Dwi Cymraig
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.26 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 26/04/2008 23:06:26
Originally by: annoing
or just plain stupid?
As you are a dimwit with the wit, brains and personality of a glass of water
I am wishing that your parents had practiced abstinence rather than your conception
First you started off with ANOTHER America bash post. Gee I'm sure we can always use more of that . Then you dedicated a good 3 sentences to insulting me and I'm the troll?
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annoing
Amarr MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.26 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 26/04/2008 23:09:21
Originally by: annoing
or just plain stupid?
As you are a dimwit with the wit, brains and personality of a glass of water
I am wishing that your parents had practiced abstinence rather than your conception
First you started off with ANOTHER America bash post. Gee I'm sure we can always use more of that . Then you dedicated a good 3 sentences to insulting me personally and I'm the troll?
Dwi Cymraig
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.04.26 23:19:00 -
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Quote: "I am convinced that abstinence is the only way for kids," he says. "You begin by teaching the consequences of bad behaviour and the benefits of proper behaviour and you do that in a way that a child can grasp.
Teaching consequences of having sex? Fine. Showing that sex can lead to STDs and pregnancy? Fine. Teaching children about consequence and causal relationships? Fine. Misrepresenting the consequences of sex? Not fine. Not teaching that some of such consequences can be very, very easily avoided? Not fine.
Quote: "Self control leads to a happy, joyful life. If we can learn to control the most basic of drives - the sex drive - for good, then we can control drugs, gangs, alcohol and abusive anger."
Teaching self-control is fine. Equating it with abstinence is not. You can't practice abstinence without self-control but you can have self-control without abstinence just fine, thank you very much.
Also lol. If anything, drugs, gangs, alcohol, and abuse can be helped by having *more* sex, not less.
Quote: His lessons promote marriage and virginity - for both partners - as an ideal.
That's great. That's fantastic. Because I definitely want my school telling me what I should do. Sex-ed? Definitely a safe place to enforce your own ethics upon teenagers.
Oh, what's this 18-year-old girl have to say?
Quote: "At some point everybody ends up getting married.[1] Everybody wants commitment at some point[2] and nobody likes to be cheated on."[3]
1) LOL. 2) not necessarily 3) I know a few who might not care.
Quote: "Secondary virgins"
    
Jane is a virgin. Jane has sex with boy A. Jane is no longer a virgin. Boy B propositions Jane for sex. Jane says "No, I'm a virgin" Boy B says "WTF?" Jane says "I'm a secondary virgin and this time I'm saving it for marriage. Honest." Boy B says "You know, a 'no thanks' would have sufficed."
Jane later goes and does the hell out of Boy C, then bemoans her fate to Boy B "Lo, I have failed myself again! The shame, the horror!"
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Lord MuffloN
Caldari Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.26 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Lord MuffloN on 26/04/2008 23:24:13 Edited by: Lord MuffloN on 26/04/2008 23:21:31 Us in the civilized part of the world (Scandinavia) don't have these problems, then again, we educate our children, the parents take their responsibility and we don't have a lot of religious nut jobs, and those few we have are in general ignored or shunned, I wonder what's the connection here, I can't quite put my finger on it...
(I'm Swedish, thus "In before any other Swedish person except me posts a link to our two biggest tabloids to prove me wrong", Expressen and Aftonpravdan)
EDIT2: In conclusion, oh god, people have sex, the horror! Their using their evolutionary abilities to reproduce as a means of fun, the horror! Oh god, the sky is falling! Abolish sex! It's destroying our moral values!
Originally by: Jago Kain If they ever decide to award a Nobel Prize for Emo, Lord MuffloN is a sure fire winner of the first on
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.26 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 26/04/2008 23:30:24
Originally by: annoing
With every breath you prove yourself the troll.
I like irony. _______________
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Lord MuffloN
Caldari Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.04.26 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 26/04/2008 23:30:24
Originally by: annoing

With every breath you prove yourself the troll.
I like irony.
He's a troll alright, can't do much more then report them :\
Originally by: Jago Kain If they ever decide to award a Nobel Prize for Emo, Lord MuffloN is a sure fire winner of the first on
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annoing
Amarr MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.26 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 26/04/2008 23:30:24
Originally by: annoing
With every breath you prove yourself the troll.
I like irony.
I doubt you know what it means ...
As for trolling you? yeah I admit it, you're just far too big a target to ignore. While im trolling you, you maintain the 'just plain stupid' act so well. No really, you failed, it was fun to watch.
Dwi Cymraig
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.26 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 26/04/2008 23:56:05
Originally by: annoing Wait, is this an american bashing post? Do you understand the concept? Or maybe, as you came in and insulted me as an american basher, I dont have the right to reply to an insult with an insult? Ahh well, next time read the post properly and come back with a reply instead of jumping to conclusions that are unfounded.
Look, that's what bugged me. Just with the title you put the article's blame quite clearly on Americans, regardless of the british source. When I pointed that flaw out you went out of your way to insult me personally. Now if you wish to continue the trollage I'll gladly ignore you from this point on. If you actually wish to talk i'll check back.
edit: He brought this argument to another thread. Derailing it . K, I think i've got my answer on whether or not he's just trolling or actually gives a damn. |

Jago Kain
Amarr Ramm's RDI
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Posted - 2008.04.27 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 27/04/2008 00:03:23
Originally by: annoing Wait, is this an american bashing post? Do you understand the concept? Or maybe, as you came in and insulted me as an american basher, I dont have the right to reply to an insult with an insult? Ahh well, next time read the post properly and come back with a reply instead of jumping to conclusions that are unfounded.
With the title you put the article's blame quite clearly on Americans, regardless of the british source.... and some more stuff
Here's a radical idea; read the article before leaping down folk's throats.
The article itself is from a BBC source, but the information contained in it specifically references the good 'ol US of A.
Thus, the title of the thread is justified, if possibly still a bit troll-baity.
Discuss.
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SEN 5243
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Posted - 2008.04.27 00:58:00 -
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rofl
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.04.27 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 27/04/2008 00:03:23
Originally by: annoing Wait, is this an american bashing post? Do you understand the concept? Or maybe, as you came in and insulted me as an american basher, I dont have the right to reply to an insult with an insult? Ahh well, next time read the post properly and come back with a reply instead of jumping to conclusions that are unfounded.
With the title you put the article's blame quite clearly on Americans, regardless of the british source. When I pointed that flaw in your argument you went out you of your way to insult me personally. I didn't actually state "America Bashing" until afterwards when you were clearly out for trouble. Now if you wish to continue the trollage I'll gladly ignore you from this point on. If you actually wish to talk i'll check back.
edit: He just derailed another thread by bringing this argument to it. K, I think i've got my answer on whether or not he's just trolling or actually gives a damn. Why do I even try to get into a discussion with some people?
Not pointing something out BUT...
Quote:
Has US abstinence policy failed?
By Jane O'Brien BBC News, Washington
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Jago Kain
Amarr Ramm's RDI
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Posted - 2008.04.27 01:16:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP some stuff of dubious consequence.... He just derailed another thread by bringing this argument to it. K, I think i've got my answer on whether or not he's just trolling or actually gives a damn. Why do I even try to get into a discussion with some people?
Good question.
Is it perhaps that you like the aggro as much as the so-called Trolls?
Were this to be the case that would make you, in addition to being a Troll, a hypocrite and a trouble stirrer.
Surely not? Not in OOPE?
disclaimer; Uncle Jago has no sense of irony, so don't even go there
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.04.27 01:29:00 -
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I fail to see the logic of the ruling far right. If the poor huddled masses stop fornicating they'll produce less children to go fight the rich mans war. They must be pulling a double fake here knowing full well people will just laugh at them and go about their business as usual.
It's all just lipservice to that eye in the sky.
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Havok Dryke
Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.04.27 04:15:00 -
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There's a simple way to prevent unprotected teenage sex. Show videos of birth in sex-ed class and tell the kids that this is what happens if you have sex/don't wear a condom. I swear it'd work. ------------------------------
EVE is a cold, harsh world, filled with people that would kill you without a second thought. The forums are even worse.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.04.27 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 27/04/2008 04:38:49
Originally by: Havok Dryke There's a simple way to prevent unprotected teenage sex. Show videos of birth in sex-ed class and tell the kids that this is what happens if you have sex/don't wear a condom. I swear it'd work.
On the plus side, condom and birth control meds sales would skyrocket in the next 10-15 years and keep high. On the minus side, birth rates would get a dramatic drop for even longer 
Hmm... it's actually a win-win situation, isn't it ? 
P.S. Oh, yeah, and a huge increase in "mother's day" present sales 
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Brujo Loco
Amarr Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2008.04.27 07:33:00 -
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""Secondary virgins"
Teenagers who do have sex before marriage are given another chance by becoming "secondary virgins". "
Double U Tee Eff???? 
Viva VENEZUELA!!! Archipelago Theory
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Havok Dryke
Golden Gavel Enterprises The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.04.27 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 27/04/2008 04:38:49
Originally by: Havok Dryke There's a simple way to prevent unprotected teenage sex. Show videos of birth in sex-ed class and tell the kids that this is what happens if you have sex/don't wear a condom. I swear it'd work.
On the plus side, condom and birth control meds sales would skyrocket in the next 10-15 years and keep high. On the minus side, birth rates would get a dramatic drop for even longer 
Hmm... it's actually a win-win situation, isn't it ? 
P.S. Oh, yeah, and a huge increase in "mother's day" present sales 
Eeexactly.
1. The people who sell condoms/birth control need to eat too 2. There are enough people on this planet as it is ------------------------------
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.27 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Brujo Loco ""Secondary virgins"
Teenagers who do have sex before marriage are given another chance by becoming "secondary virgins". "
Double U Tee Eff???? 
this is the bit where I'm 
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