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Sythin Chure The Warp Core Stabilizers Purgat0ry 0	Posted - 2012.03.01 16:27:00 - [1] - Quote The Idea is to Provide a bit of tank, a bit of dps, while providing some kind of bonus to team-mates. I haven't really Shot stuff up in this Fitting yet, so have fun. High Slots: Heavy Assault Launcher II x4 (Kinetic Rage Missile) XT-2800 Heavy Assault Launcher x1 (Kinetic Missile) Mid Slots: 10mn Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II Medium Shield Booster II Target Painter II Invulnerability Field II Low Slots: Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II Rigs: 2x Medium Core Defence Field Extender I 1x Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Any Ideas?
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts 206	Posted - 2012.03.01 16:31:00 - [2] - Quote Too slow and no tank. As a generalisation, the HAM Caracal doesn't work, it doesn't have the PG to fit the tank it needs to survive that close up. Either put yourself into the anti-frigate role with AMLs, or hang further back as a HML and ewar (TDs, RSD or painters) support platform. Either way, don't active tank it.
ChromeStriker The Riot Formation 66	Posted - 2012.03.01 16:31:00 - [3] - Quote [Caracal, Caracal] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Light Missile Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x2 - Nulla Curas
Sythin Chure The Warp Core Stabilizers Purgat0ry 0	Posted - 2012.03.01 16:33:00 - [4] - Quote Gypsio III wrote: Too slow and.... Alright, Thanks for your input.
Alua Oresson Demon-War-Lords BLACK-MARK 70	Posted - 2012.03.01 16:45:00 - [5] - Quote I'd have to agree. The caracal does very well in an anti frigate role. It also does decently with HML in a support role. It just doesn't have the grid to properly run as a HAM ship. At least not one that will survive. And unless you are running one of several specialized setups on certain ships, active tanking doesn't work that well in gang PVP. Also, you didn't state where you would be PVPing. If you are in 0.0 then a MWD is pretty close to mandatory.
Sythin Chure The Warp Core Stabilizers Purgat0ry 0	Posted - 2012.03.01 18:30:00 - [6] - Quote Although The fleets I am in may vary, I may have to change the RSDs for something more useful, such as tracking disruptors, with the rig I have set in I may have to purchase a second Caracal but anyway, I picked the RSDs because if something may shoot at me I can safely stay out of locking range even if they have missiles fitted. Enjoy! [Caracal, TacCara-v2] 5x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Trauma Fury Heavy Missile) Invulnerability Field II 2x Remote Sensor Dampener II (Targeting Range Dampening) Target Painter II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Signal Amplifier II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Inverted Signal Field Projector I
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings 600	Posted - 2012.03.01 18:34:00 - [7] - Quote Caracal is secretly a destroyer, just like the Stabber is secretly a frigate. Otherwise the advice above is true. Take it. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel.
Dark Pangolin The Clean Up Crew S E D I T I O N 58	Posted - 2012.03.01 18:58:00 - [8] - Quote Sythin Chure wrote: Although The fleets I am in may vary, I may have to change the RSDs for something more useful, such as tracking disruptors, with the rig I have set in I may have to purchase a second Caracal but anyway, I picked the RSDs because if something may shoot at me I can safely stay out of locking range even if they have missiles fitted. Enjoy! [Caracal, TacCara-v2] 5x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Trauma Fury Heavy Missile) Invulnerability Field II 2x Remote Sensor Dampener II (Targeting Range Dampening) Target Painter II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Signal Amplifier II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Inverted Signal Field Projector I K the Signal amp and Rig do not affect RSDs tot he best of my knowledge. Try this for long range support. (Don't worry about damping someone shooting you, it will not save you. If you are sitting at 100km off lobbing in missiles and someone mean looks at you...warp off and warp back to the field in a different spot...) Someone or something needs to point your target. So if you are 100km off in support...chances are the target is fighting whoever is scramming/webbing/bubbling... Try this fit; [Caracal, Support] Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive Target Painter II Target Painter II Target Painter II Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] Rig/Drone to taste. If you are support be support. The Caracal won't survive an up-close fight. Sit 100km off...TP the primary and lob missiles. Run away if anything looks at you cross eyed. The Frig killer version is IMO the best version of the Caracal. Do you have gunnery skills? Have you considered the Moa?
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux 895	Posted - 2012.03.01 19:01:00 - [9] - Quote Petrus Blackshell wrote: Caracal is secretly a destroyer, just like the Stabber is secretly a frigate. Otherwise the advice above is true. Take it. Huh, I hadn't really thought of it like that. Its probably a good way to think of it. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://vimeo.com/user9887127 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Sythin Chure The Warp Core Stabilizers Purgat0ry 0	Posted - 2012.03.01 19:20:00 - [10] - Quote I didn't think of the case of my team-mate, and to be honest, I haven't really trained gunnery skills yet.

Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts 208	Posted - 2012.03.02 08:56:00 - [11] - Quote Dark Pangolin wrote: Try this fit; [Caracal, Support] Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive Target Painter II Target Painter II Target Painter II Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] Rig/Drone to taste. If you are support be support. The Caracal won't survive an up-close fight. Sit 100km off...TP the primary and lob missiles. Run away if anything looks at you cross eyed. The Frig killer version is IMO the best version of the Caracal. Do you have gunnery skills? Have you considered the Moa? Yeah this is more like it. Feel free to switch the ewar around - TDs can cripple turret boats and also give you a bit of tank in a world of t3 BCs, and RSDs can help keep yourself alive against long-ranged missile boats. ECM isn't worth it though, not on an unbonused hull.
ChromeStriker The Riot Formation 68	Posted - 2012.03.02 09:49:00 - [12] - Quote ... sorry... i really am... but use a drake :( [Drake, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Large Shield Extender II Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Invulnerability Field II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Target Painter II Target Painter II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Heavy Missile Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I [Drake, New Setup 2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Stasis Webifier II Stasis Webifier II Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Light Missile Medium Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I - Nulla Curas
Sythin Chure The Warp Core Stabilizers Purgat0ry 0	Posted - 2012.03.02 16:19:00 - [13] - Quote Sorry, I prefer something less sluggish, and more fun to use as well. Thanks for the offer though. Softcore PvPer
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings 613	Posted - 2012.03.02 16:22:00 - [14] - Quote ChromeStriker wrote: :stuff: Did you just seriously recommend an AML Drake? Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel.
Dark Pangolin The Clean Up Crew S E D I T I O N 58	Posted - 2012.03.02 19:47:00 - [15] - Quote Petrus Blackshell wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: :stuff: Did you just seriously recommend an AML Drake? Don't laugh...if you know you're fighting 5-7 frigs solo...and AML drake is stupid good...(waiting for SuperChair to comment)...but otherwise yeah...you can get 5 caracls for 1 drake? Learn in T1 Cruisers
Andrea Griffin 156	Posted - 2012.03.02 20:56:00 - [16] - Quote When fitting a Caracal for long range support, I typically fit: [Caracal, Cheapy Fleet Caracal] Damage Control I Nanofiber Internal Structure I Large Shield Extender I Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Remote Sensor Dampener I, Targeting Range Dampening Assault Missile Launcher I, Trauma Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher I, Trauma Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher I, Trauma Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher I, Trauma Light Missile Assault Missile Launcher I, Trauma Light Missile Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Obviously, upgrade your equipment as need dictates. The shield resistance rigs are so incredibly cheap that you might as well fit some. DC or Nano could be swapped for ballistic controls if you want, and the assault launchers for heavies. I go for assault launchers though; I like being able to hit small targets and drones for full damage. Also, heavy launchers have a much higher CPU requirement, which gimps your EWar support choices. I really do recommend a large extender though; it lets you tank drones that come your way for a while so you don't have to run off as soon as you take any damage. CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
Cephelange du'Krevviq Hephaestus LLC Get Off My Lawn 39	Posted - 2012.03.02 21:49:00 - [17] - Quote This is a fit I've toyed with a bit while discussing it with corp-mates. Not sure if I'll ever get a chance to test it out (I honestly hope to), but if/when, I will let you know. [Caracal, Null3] Power Diagnostic System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Large Shield Extender II Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Trauma Heavy Missile Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x2 Rigs/Drones to your taste, as with previous.
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings 616	Posted - 2012.03.02 22:03:00 - [18] - Quote Dark Pangolin wrote: Petrus Blackshell wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: :stuff: Did you just seriously recommend an AML Drake? Don't laugh...if you know you're fighting 5-7 frigs solo...and AML drake is stupid good...(waiting for SuperChair to comment)...but otherwise yeah...you can get 5 caracls for 1 drake? Learn in T1 Cruisers I hate Drakes just because they're hard to tackle/kill in frigates, but I think running into an AML Drake would just make me ragequit. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel.
Ahrieman Heretic Army Heretic Nation 72	Posted - 2012.03.02 22:11:00 - [19] - Quote Petrus Blackshell wrote: Dark Pangolin wrote: Petrus Blackshell wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: :stuff: Did you just seriously recommend an AML Drake? Don't laugh...if you know you're fighting 5-7 frigs solo...and AML drake is stupid good...(waiting for SuperChair to comment)...but otherwise yeah...you can get 5 caracls for 1 drake? Learn in T1 Cruisers I hate Drakes just because they're hard to tackle/kill in frigates, but I think running into an AML Drake would just make me ragequit. I know someone who has an AML Drake. It's only a cu**hair away from being a pure troll machine, but I can think of a certain roid belt where it could harvest pirate tears by the truckload. Sig tanking is the new black
OfBalance Caldari State 82	Posted - 2012.03.02 23:25:00 - [20] - Quote Ahrieman wrote: I know someone who has an AML Drake. It's only a cu**hair away from being a pure troll machine, but I can think of a certain roid belt where it could harvest pirate tears by the truckload. Oh gosh, I wonder which top belt in Amamake that you're referring to?

Ahrieman Heretic Army Heretic Nation 72	Posted - 2012.03.02 23:27:00 - [21] - Quote OfBalance wrote: Ahrieman wrote: I know someone who has an AML Drake. It's only a cu**hair away from being a pure troll machine, but I can think of a certain roid belt where it could harvest pirate tears by the truckload. Oh gosh, I wonder which top belt in Amamake that you're referring to? Wasn't trying to keep it a secret, just being coy. If I don't play hard to get once in a while, that just makes me a forumslut... Sig tanking is the new black
OfBalance Caldari State 82	Posted - 2012.03.02 23:31:00 - [22] - Quote Ahrieman wrote: OfBalance wrote: Ahrieman wrote: I know someone who has an AML Drake. It's only a cu**hair away from being a pure troll machine, but I can think of a certain roid belt where it could harvest pirate tears by the truckload. Oh gosh, I wonder which top belt in Amamake that you're referring to? Wasn't trying to keep it a secret, just being coy. If I don't play hard to get once in a while, that just makes me a forumslut... You say "forumslut," like it's a bad thing.


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