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Pan Crastus Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.27 16:50:00 - [1] 10 tge1-3.fr4.par.llnw.net (69.28.172.101) 213.560 ms 215.843 ms 235.849 ms 11 ve6.fr3.par.llnw.net (69.28.172.117) 458.154 ms 242.436 ms 215.327 ms 12 tge1-2.fr4.lon.llnw.net (69.28.171.50) 215.381 ms 215.426 ms 215.478 ms 13 ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net (87.248.208.150) 215.530 ms 215.678 ms 215.730 ms 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * *
Doc Fury	Posted - 2008.04.27 16:54:00 - [2] AFAIK CCP's datacenter is connected via. Level 3 Communications and not llnw.net, a.k.a. (S)Limelight Networks. CCP cannot control whose network you have to traverse for your packets to arrive in London at Level 3.
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.04.27 16:58:00 - [3] Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2008.04.27 17:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Pan Crastus 10 tge1-3.fr4.par.llnw.net (69.28.172.101) 213.560 ms 215.843 ms 235.849 ms 11 ve6.fr3.par.llnw.net (69.28.172.117) 458.154 ms 242.436 ms 215.327 ms 12 tge1-2.fr4.lon.llnw.net (69.28.171.50) 215.381 ms 215.426 ms 215.478 ms 13 ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net (87.248.208.150) 215.530 ms 215.678 ms 215.730 ms 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * Yeah, thsi ISP truely SUCKZ. U proophed IT XD __________________________________ Originally by: Verlyn I know it's my own fault, BUT THATS NOT THE POINT!
Mr Friendly	Posted - 2008.04.27 18:10:00 - [5] Pan, is this your Designated Whine Day? Do something else if Eve is **ing you off that much. Originally by:** CCP Prism X Also, posting in a Jenny thread.
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2008.04.27 18:10:00 - [6] CCP doesn't just use 1 ISP. They have a range of failover connections, should one of them fail.
Pan Crastus Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.27 18:18:00 - [7] Originally by: Mr Friendly Pan, is this your Designated Whine Day? Do something else if Eve is ****ing you off that much. I am, normally I don't spend much time on the forums, but playing EVE really isn't fun atm. so I am here. :-/
Shintai Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards	Posted - 2008.04.27 18:22:00 - [8] Edited by: Shintai on 27/04/2008 18:23:25 What exactly is wrong again? Tracing route to 87.237.38.200 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 90.185.3.25 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms cosw1-hoer.fullrate.dk [90.185.3.162] 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms kbn-horsk-i1-link.telia.net [213.248.73.177] 4 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms kbn-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.249.193] 5 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms kbn-bb2-pos0-2-0.telia.net [213.248.65.17] 6 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms hbg-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.252.114] 7 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms ldn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.249.14] 8 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ldn-b2-link.telia.net [80.91.250.230] 9 30 ms 19 ms 19 ms globix-118206-ldn-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.100.18] 10 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms 217.20.44.226 11 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 217.20.44.138 12 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 87.237.38.199 13 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 87.237.38.200 Trace complete. Tracing route to ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 90.185.3.25 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms cosw1-hoer.fullrate.dk [90.185.3.162] 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms ge-1-3-0.ar2.cph1.gblx.net [207.136.166.153] 4 13 ms 13 ms 16 ms limelight-networks-llc.tengigabitethernet2-2.ar4.ams2.gblx.net [64.209.95.206] 5 31 ms 23 ms 24 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94] 6 27 ms 24 ms 25 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138] 7 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150] Trace complete. I dont see any issue. Try fix your own side?
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.04.27 18:32:00 - [9] Edited by: NeoTheo on 27/04/2008 18:32:20 the ability to pass ICMP over a network in a yes no deal has sweet FA to do with performance. learn to network. Neotheo Dark Materials Linkage
searess	Posted - 2008.04.27 18:35:00 - [10] Bad link in the chain by the looks , hopefully the routers will switch around it for you. Did a trace myself 250 miles and its 8 hops Tracing route to 87.237.38.200 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms MahFirewall [10.0.0.1] 2 53 ms 55 ms 56 ms lo0-plusnet.pcl-ag01.plus.net [195.166.128.27] 3 71 ms 55 ms 55 ms gi1-2-803.pcl-gw1.plus.net [84.92.5.57] 4 55 ms 55 ms 55 ms te2-2.pte-gw1.plus.net [212.159.0.186] 5 62 ms 55 ms 64 ms ge2-2.fr1.lon.llnw.net [193.203.5.68] 6 55 ms 56 ms 55 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150] 7 55 ms 63 ms 55 ms 87.237.38.199 8 54 ms 56 ms 55 ms 87.237.38.200 Trace complete. One hop is an internal to my network and three are CCP's external to internal so only a few hops this time but I have had 20 plus hops for some reason maybe the internets dont like to shift packets every now and again. Hijackzorzzzz Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.04.27 18:37:00 - [11] 3 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms nl-hei1-ra-01-gi1-1.multikabel.net [212.127.252. 18] 4 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms nl-hfd3-ra-01-10G-3-4.multikabel.net [213.132.19 1.66] 5 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms nl-ams1-rb-01-10G-3-3.multikabel.net [213.132.19 1.57] 6 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms fr3.ams.llnw.net [195.69.145.133] 7 29 ms 30 ms 23 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94] 8 22 ms 25 ms 26 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138] 9 25 ms 16 ms 16 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150]
Pan Crastus Amarr	Posted - 2008.04.27 18:55:00 - [12] Originally by: NeoTheo Edited by: NeoTheo on 27/04/2008 18:32:20 the ability to pass ICMP over a network in a yes no deal has sweet FA to do with performance. learn to network. ICMP is crucial for many things, for example pmtu discovery. EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.04.27 19:12:00 - [13] I seem to be having trouble connecting, after experiencing several dropped connections over the last half hour. I'm getting quite a lot of packet loss - I'll post some Ping Plotter logs when I have more data. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.04.27 19:37:00 - [14] ping plotter says ------------- fixed for greater eve content
MrWild	Posted - 2008.04.27 19:44:00 - [15] 1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 1762 ms 1568 ms 1199 ms 10.30.64.1 3 1143 ms 2563 ms 1203 ms 10.233.20.17 4 1211 ms 1150 ms 1367 ms 10.233.30.21 5 1250 ms 1280 ms 1151 ms 10.233.30.1 6 1149 ms 1372 ms 2787 ms 10.233.100.2 7 1252 ms 1219 ms 1778 ms 10.233.110.2 8 2658 ms 1296 ms 1294 ms jfk-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [65.115.1.153] 9 3007 ms 1397 ms 2434 ms jfk-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.30.85] 10 1887 ms 1264 ms 2524 ms jfk-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net [205.171.230.42] 11 3310 ms 2829 ms 1221 ms 63.146.26.226 12 1959 ms 2571 ms 2674 ms te1-4-10g.ar4.NYC1.gblx.net [67.17.108.245] 13 3081 ms 2581 ms 1158 ms ge2-6.fr1.lga.llnw.net [64.208.222.150] 14 2907 ms 1194 ms 1217 ms ve2002.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.201] 15 1315 ms * * tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126] 16 1511 ms 1416 ms 2790 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138] 17 1509 ms 1218 ms 1381 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150] 18 1311 ms 1237 ms 3038 ms 87.237.38.199 19 2260 ms 1389 ms 1377 ms 87.237.38.200 satellite 4tw baby
Messerschmitt facility Amarr Shinra Shinra Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.27 20:01:00 - [16] Originally by: Shintai Edited by: Shintai on 27/04/2008 18:23:25 What exactly is wrong again? Tracing route to 87.237.38.200 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 90.185.3.25 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms cosw1-hoer.fullrate.dk [90.185.3.162] 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms kbn-horsk-i1-link.telia.net [213.248.73.177] 4 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms kbn-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.249.193] 5 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms kbn-bb2-pos0-2-0.telia.net [213.248.65.17] 6 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms hbg-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.252.114] 7 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms ldn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.249.14] 8 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ldn-b2-link.telia.net [80.91.250.230] 9 30 ms 19 ms 19 ms globix-118206-ldn-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.100.18] 10 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms 217.20.44.226 11 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 217.20.44.138 12 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 87.237.38.199 13 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 87.237.38.200 Trace complete. Tracing route to ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 90.185.3.25 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms cosw1-hoer.fullrate.dk [90.185.3.162] 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms ge-1-3-0.ar2.cph1.gblx.net [207.136.166.153] 4 13 ms 13 ms 16 ms limelight-networks-llc.tengigabitethernet2-2.ar4.ams2.gblx.net [64.209.95.206] 5 31 ms 23 ms 24 ms tge7-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.94] 6 27 ms 24 ms 25 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138] 7 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150] Trace complete. I dont see any issue. Try fix your own side? You bastard! Where do you live? did CCP adopted you in the server room? Now I understand why some of you are allways escaping before I can lock and scramble you I allways have to perform my actions in anticipation of 1-2 seconds That's it, i'm moving to Denmark Tracing route to 87.237.38.200 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms Secret :P [192.x.x.x] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 7 ms 7 ms 10 ms rd1wh-ge4-0-0-6.vc.shawcable.net [64.59.159.115] 4 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms rc1wh-ge15-0-0.vc.shawcable.net [66.163.69.193] 5 9 ms 11 ms 11 ms rc2wt-pos7-0.wa.shawcable.net [66.163.76.154] 6 21 ms 12 ms 12 ms ge0-3-0-30.jr1.sea.llnw.net [198.32.180.99] 7 47 ms 44 ms 48 ms tge2-2.fr3.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.145] 8 42 ms 42 ms 47 ms ve5.fr4.sjc.llnw.net [69.28.171.210] 9 73 ms 73 ms 74 ms tge1-1.fr3.ord.llnw.net [69.28.171.65] 10 77 ms 74 ms 75 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42] 11 93 ms 99 ms 99 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194] 12 159 ms 166 ms 160 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126] 13 161 ms 161 ms 159 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138] 14 159 ms 158 ms 159 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150] 15 160 ms 180 ms 159 ms 87.237.38.199 16 158 ms 161 ms 157 ms 87.237.38.200 _________________________________ A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking...
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2008.04.27 20:09:00 - [17] Clearly everyone in this thread other than Pan are just fanbois. OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH! ---------------- Tarminic - 35 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8)
emepror Gallente The Holy Hand Grenades of Antioch THE VILLAGE PE0PLE	Posted - 2008.04.27 20:46:00 - [18] what the hell does all this mean?
Freya Runestone Minmatar	Posted - 2008.04.27 20:48:00 - [19] Quote: 1 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms * 2 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms * 3 18 ms 25 ms 19 ms * 4 18 ms 17 ms 18 ms * 5 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms * 6 16 ms 17 ms 17 ms * 7 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms ge-6-18.car2.Copenhagen1.Level3.net [4.68.111.17] 8 23 ms 16 ms 21 ms ge-0-0-0.mp2.Copenhagen1.Level3.net [4.68.125.197] 9 40 ms 52 ms 40 ms ae-1-0.bbr1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.58] 10 40 ms 52 ms 41 ms ge-10-0.ipcolo1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.9] 11 53 ms 53 ms 55 ms unknown.Level3.net [212.187.160.146] 12 54 ms 53 ms 53 ms 217.20.44.226 13 38 ms 38 ms 38 ms 217.20.44.138 14 37 ms 37 ms 66 ms 87.237.38.199 15 37 ms 52 ms 38 ms 87.237.38.200
Shaun Klaroh Caldari Nova Mining Manufacturing and Research LTD	Posted - 2008.04.27 21:12:00 - [20] Tracing route to ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms ipcop4.localdomain4 [10.64.4.254] 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 14 ms 10 ms * ge-5-6-ur01.saltlakecity.ut.utah.comcast.net [68.87.170.177] 4 * 11 ms * te-9-4-ar01.saltlakecity.ut.utah.comcast.net [68.87.170.9] 5 20 ms 22 ms 23 ms 12.117.148.21 6 44 ms 43 ms 45 ms tbr2.dvmco.ip.att.net [12.123.207.174] 7 48 ms 42 ms 40 ms cr2.dvmco.ip.att.net [12.122.23.93] 8 65 ms 41 ms 41 ms cr1.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.31.86] 9 41 ms 43 ms 49 ms tbr1.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.17.154] 10 41 ms 40 ms 40 ms 12.122.99.17 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 56 ms 53 ms 65 ms ve6.fr4.ord.llnw.net [69.28.172.42] 13 67 ms 70 ms 74 ms tge11-3.fr3.lga.llnw.net [69.28.171.194] 14 162 ms 156 ms 164 ms tge1-2.fr3.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.126] 15 160 ms 152 ms 152 ms ve5.fr4.lon.llnw.net [69.28.171.138] 16 150 ms 150 ms 150 ms ccp.ve201.fr3.lon.llnw.net [87.248.208.150] Trace complete. ---- Looks like there's a firewall or two. (Proxy on line two on my local network). Comcast itself hasn't been known to be sane, ever. The end result though is EvE being at 150ms, not bad at all, even with me all the way out in the rockies. ----- Quote: "Are these people prisoners?" Arkhan asked. "Not at all," Melak replied. "They're free to run and get shot any time they like."
Valan The Fated Odyssey.	Posted - 2008.04.27 21:35:00 - [21] Edited by: Valan on 27/04/2008 21:37:34 Incidentally the ping plotter can give you a good idea but if you run the pings close together most networks will pick it up and block it as a DOS attack. EDIT: Oh yeh and CCP can't do anything about the packet loss in the middle of the route they can ask Level 3 to look at it or you can ask your ISP to take a look. They will pass the fault on to the organisation involved but it'll not be covered by an SLA. /start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig

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I know it's my own fault,BUT THATS NOT THE POINT!

I know it's my own fault,
BUT THATS NOT THE POINT!