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Admiral Bosch
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Posted - 2008.04.28 23:22:00 -
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i have an odd feeling im going to get one sided answers to the obvious but what are the claws chances vs a standard missle crow?
respectively both equally skilled and equipt.
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Helpdesk
Caldari
COLD-Wing
The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.04.28 23:33:00 -
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If both properly skilled and fitted, I'd say 20% crow, 5% claw, 75% draw.
It's not that hard to break away from eachother. The claw has it's everlasting disadvantage of having only two mid-slots, so that makes warping (or breaking and turning) rather easy, should it be needed. Most of the times neither will get proper hits in and if they do, they can't hold their opponent and one will warp off.
Personally I consider an enemy warping off a draw, not a victory, hence why.
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Admiral Bosch
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Posted - 2008.04.28 23:37:00 -
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yeah i figured. im just giving myself a headache im trying to plot out a PVP alt with nothing but inty / AS / EAS / HAC combo. I was thinking fo hitting caldari for a crow / kitsune and then everything else matari. Ugh so many good things.
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.29 00:58:00 -
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I'm going to go with 50% Crow, 5% Claw, and 45% Draw.
If both are pimped, its 95% Crow, 5% Draw.
-Liang
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Monticore D'Muertos
Caldari
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.29 02:39:00 -
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i an going to go with claw here if he fits a web. )
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.29 02:47:00 -
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The only way either can kill the other is if it's a Rocket Crow with web, in which case the Crow will win.
Anything other than that and whichever one of them is doing badly will be able to just run away.
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Radcjk
Caldari
Dark Star LTD
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.04.29 03:31:00 -
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Normally I'd put my money on the Crow.
Then again more than one claw pilot ahas suckered a crow or sader by fitting a web and just eating it alive as fast as it could before the pilot considered / had a chance to warp.
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Larkonis Trassler
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.04.29 03:39:00 -
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Depends. Most fights will probably end up with one party just disengaging due to noone getting a hit in. If both are over about 5km/s then probably neither unless the Claw pilot is good, but Claws anemic lock range will do him no favours.
If claw fits a web then he probably has it as he'll be able to BBQ the crow before he realises WTF is going on, unless the Crow has a web too, but Claw will probably be able to alpha the crow to oblivion.
Very close either way, but most fights will end up a stalemate.
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Baji Core
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.04.29 07:41:00 -
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It'd be over pretty quick if the crow overloads its web and mwd...
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Red Wid0w
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.29 09:08:00 -
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Edited by: Red Wid0w on 29/04/2008 09:10:21
Claw with arty+web will annihilate the Crow before it even gets to warp. Crow cannot do any damage to Claw unless Claw slows down. If Crow webs the Claw, then the Claw also webs the Crow and lands big artillery hits. Crow is the worst interceptor for duelling other interceptors. This all depends on pilot skill ofc, if the Claw tries to stupidly approach the Crow, and drops its velocity enough for missiles to do damage the Crow will eventually wear it down.
No good interceptor pilot would lose to a Crow tho, it's embarassing. Easiest way is for Claw pilot to doubleclick, and travel in straight line, Crow will give chase and get whacked in the face so hard it's funny. Claw pilot can time it just right to turn around and finish the job.
But yes, like most people are saying, a draw is likely, as the Crow will most likely run away because it can't do any damage (useless ship flown by noobs).
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Lona Lwyd
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Posted - 2008.04.29 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Lona Lwyd on 29/04/2008 09:10:51
FYI Claw has 2 mids, so having a web on it isn't realistic
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Pychian Vanervi
Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2008.04.29 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lona Lwyd
Edited by: Lona Lwyd on 29/04/2008 09:10:51
FYI Claw has 2 mids, so having a web on it isn't realistic
As much as some Crow pilots go for cap stability over a web. A web on a claw is an option, take the opponent by suprise and use that to your advantage, 5-10 second of combat while the other pilot has to think of what is going on as his speed drops can be as effective as having him scrambled for twice that time.
Personally I would put it at a 20% claw 20% crow 60% draw. Maybe a little higher for the crow if I fight in the claw only because I like a good fight to have an outcome rather than spend another hour or more looking for an opponent who is willing to fight.
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Annowyn
Boennerup Banden
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Posted - 2008.04.29 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lona Lwyd
Edited by: Lona Lwyd on 29/04/2008 09:10:51
FYI Claw has 2 mids, so having a web on it isn't realistic
I fit a web and a mwd in my mids on my claw all the time. I have alot of other cepter killmails. Only takes about 8 seconds to kill one once they are webbed.
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Valea Silpha
Death Monkey's With Knives
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2008.04.29 10:41:00 -
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I've never gone for a web on my claw, although mainly because i have never yet been in 1 vs 1 ceptor duels in it. But I can attest to the STUPID damage mod you can get on it, so I would give it to the claw, assuming he can get on top of the crow.
I will also say this is a fight that comes down to skills/implants as well. If the crow is faster which is likely, then its most likely a stalemate unless the crow pilot is stupid or the claw pilot is very good.
If the claw is faster (pimp MWD/ODs/polycarbs) then it'll beat the crow apart so fast its not funny.
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Lona Lwyd
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Posted - 2008.04.29 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Annowyn
Originally by: Lona Lwyd
Edited by: Lona Lwyd on 29/04/2008 09:10:51
FYI Claw has 2 mids, so having a web on it isn't realistic
I fit a web and a mwd in my mids on my claw all the time. I have alot of other cepter killmails. Only takes about 8 seconds to kill one once they are webbed.
Why would you roam without a point? Understandable if you dock to switch for a web.
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Evengard
Solar Dragons
SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2008.04.29 11:10:00 -
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As a ex-Claw pilot, i vote for it.
The only interceptor was able to kill my Claw - Taranis. And there was only 1 pilot who did it 2 times 1x1.
Yes, Claw have only 2 med slots. BUT! If 1x1, in most situations if Claw got other inty webbed, he will pe popped in seconds.
In the end all depends on skills and fitting. there also can be problems with rocket / plated crow. But it's rare thing these days.
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