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Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.04.29 20:45:00 - [1] As is now commonly known, members of the BLOOD EMPIRE alliance on Sunday hosted what they termed a set of gladiatorial games. These games were, according to their organiser, inspired by ancient Sani Sabik contests and designed to bring glory to that way of thinking. Furthermore, a collection of "VIP Guests" were invited to view the contest and to take part in Sani Sabik rituals. Many of those on the particpant and guest lists were already well-known to us, and included some of the most notorious apostates, terrorists, thieves, pirates and anarchists in the cluster. But other names were new to us. Like all decent-minded people, we at PIE abhor the Sani Sabik and their practises. It was with this in mind that I sent messages to some of the particpants and guests asking them to reconsider their decisions. I explained that supporting the Sani Sabik in this matter would be little better than being a Sani Sabik. Some of the recipients of these messages later signalled to me their intention to withdraw and subsequently did so. I thank each and every one of you. Of course there were others who told me in no uncertain terms that they were going. I consider that to be the wrong choice, but it was their decision to make. It will of course have certain consequences which I shall come to later. Another group claimed to be unaware of the precise nature of the gathering, but it seems that they went ahead with particpated in it even when passed further background information. Likewise, their actions will have consequences. There was a fourth group who claimed that it was perfectly acceptable for them to attend, as they had a record of being loyal Amarrians. To these people I say this - being an good Amarrian is not a part time job. Would it be acceptable for someone to claim that they were law-abiding citizens on the grounds that they'd only gone on a single spree of illegal activity without being appropriately punished? Of course not! And so it is with you. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.04.29 20:46:00 - [2] And now, on to those consequences mentioned earlier. We have looked at the personal, corporation and alliance standings of those pilots attending, and subtracted four from the lowest for the "VIP Guests", and six from the lowest for the competitors (subject to the minus ten limit, of course). The result is the new personal standing towards the individual. Note therefore, that the standing will follow that person around and we urge recruiters to take this into account. This leaves us with the following resultant standings: Vlad Cetes -6 Lord Redemption -6 Nidia Masters -10 fallen Merovigean -10 StonyVision -10 Extreme Dios -6 Outllaw Jenner -10 Tigerfish Torpedo -10 Heliocon -10 Takako Chigusa -6 ShadowDragon -6 Qing Jou -6 Jay Marshall -6 Jin'kou -6 Lyn Sienn -6 Jade Constantine -10 Astarte Nosferatu -10 Cyshade -10 D'ceet -4 Karn Mithralia -10 Goumindong -5 Xavier Fate -10 Pharuan -10 LaVista Vista -4 Verone -10 Tassi -4 Istvaan Shogaatsu -10 Jekaterine -10 Dierdra Vaal -4 The Cosmopolite -10 Leandro Salazar -4 Tyrrax Thorrk -8 Stavros -10 NoobJuice -10 3ll3 -4 Unheard Demon -10 Yusra -4 Serenity Steele -4 Ankhesentapemkah -4 We were planning on also altering our standings towards those corporations and alliances who had members attending. However, after due consideration, we have decided to suspend these changes, pending good behaviour from those groups. Should these groups demonstrate immoral behaviour again in the future, we will adjust our standings towards them based upon both incidents. There is one exception to this, however. Two months ago an Eve University member used some very anti-Amarrian language, glorifying violence against us. After an exchange of messages, we decided to not alter our standings towards that corporation. When looked at together the two incidents point to a disturbing trend, and we are therefore left with little choice but to alter our standings towards Eve University to minus two. All of these standings changes will be enacted within the next forty-eight hours. Note that the list of attendees has been compiled from a variety of sometimes contradictory sources, and so may contain inaccuracies. As such, the list is provisional. If you feel that your name has been listed in error, please contact me privately to rectify the situation. Likewise, if anyone knows the identity of a competitor or "VIP Guest" that does not appear on the list, please let me know. Should any of the Sani Sabik sympathisers listed above wish to have their personal standings reset, they may contact either myself or one of my fellow directors (through either Evemail or the PIE Public channel) if their standing is minus six or better and they will be given an opportunity to demonstrate their moral integrity. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.04.29 21:30:00 - [3] I didn't make the event - does this mean my standings might have gone up? Personal Library
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.04.29 21:56:00 - [4] Originally by: Rodj Blake We were planning on also altering our standings towards those corporations and alliances who had members attending. However, after due consideration, we have decided to suspend these changes, pending good behaviour from those groups. Should these groups demonstrate immoral behaviour again in the future, we will adjust our standings towards them based upon both incidents. Andreus' channel is filled with hysterical laughter and the sound of him slapping his legs in mirth. After about three minutes - during which he repeatedly attempts to regain his composure and then breaks down laughing again - his face finally fades to an amused smile That's amazing, Blake. Truly. You've finally lost your spine's last vertebrae, then? ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.29 22:04:00 - [5] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris That's amazing, Blake. Truly. You've finally lost your spine's last vertebrae, then? Now that's an interesting comment for you to make, Mr. Ixiris.
Felix Doestosvky Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.04.29 22:06:00 - [6] The paper tiger squeaks! Tell me, did the self-appointed Guardians of the Truth make any attempt to prevent this event from going ahead, a fearsome letter-writing campaign aside? Did the Golden Fleet assemble to dispense justice? Or did you merely spit and sputter in indignation from the sidelines? Out of interest, will you be granting positive standings to Stimulus for actually turning up to disrupt proceedings whilst you did nothing?
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.04.29 22:22:00 - [7] Originally by: Rodj Blake This leaves us with the following resultant standings: (snip) Jade Constantine -10 I'm guessing you are in the market for some more special attention mr Blake. Lets see if you can stand in the Throne Worlds next time we turn our gaze on you. CSM Election Manifesto 2008
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.29 22:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Felix Doestosvky The paper tiger squeaks! Tell me, did the self-appointed Guardians of the Truth make any attempt to prevent this event from going ahead, a fearsome letter-writing campaign aside? Did the Golden Fleet assemble to dispense justice? Or did you merely spit and sputter in indignation from the sidelines? I'm trying to figure out if you're talking to me or to Master Blake. You reference Guardians of Truth, the paramilitary I serve...but you also reference a fearsome letter-writing campaign, of which CVA has been no part. Master Blake is a member of PIE, not the CVA (the self appointed Guardians of Truth.)
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.04.29 22:48:00 - [9] Quote: Did the Golden Fleet assemble to dispense justice? Or did you merely spit and sputter in indignation from the sidelines? Yes the Golden Fleet did assemble to dispense justice. It then went to Heimatar to engage targets of actual importance. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Qing Jou Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.04.29 23:07:00 - [10] Edited by: Qing Jou on 29/04/2008 23:14:00 King's data feed comes in, audio that drips with displeasure. "Mister Blake. I'm not exactly sure if you have the pleasure of receiving such sentiments as mine, but I do believe that in this case, they are well deserved." "I signed an oath for one purpose alone. Money." "It was an oath that I was regrettably unable to fulfill." "It was an oath that would've allowed me some financial freedom for, by my habits, a substantial amount of time." "There are a number of dubious inventions throughout the cluster of a phallic nature, of varying size and composition. I believe that with PIE's resources it would require relatively little effort for you to find them all, and shove them repeatedly in whatever orifice you prefer." _____________ Begin with the function of arbitrary complexity... now feed it values

Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.29 23:26:00 - [11] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Felix Doestosvky The paper tiger squeaks! Tell me, did the self-appointed Guardians of the Truth make any attempt to prevent this event from going ahead, a fearsome letter-writing campaign aside? Did the Golden Fleet assemble to dispense justice? Or did you merely spit and sputter in indignation from the sidelines? I'm trying to figure out if you're talking to me or to Master Blake. You reference Guardians of Truth, the paramilitary I serve...but you also reference a fearsome letter-writing campaign, of which CVA has been no part. Master Blake is a member of PIE, not the CVA (the self appointed Guardians of Truth.) Not true. Observe: Originally by: "CONCORD record for CVA" An alliance founded late in the reign of the Emperor Heideran as a meeting point for Amarrian Corps interested in the defence of the Holy Amarr Empire from the incursions of terrorists and pirates. If you are interested in joining our cause please evemail one of the ceo's prior to application. Amarr Victor. May God grant Emperor Doriam II peace. Originally by: "CONCORD record for PIE" Defenders of the Faith, *Guardians of the Truth. PIE pilots serve the Amarr Empire to uphold the Holy traditions and ensure the prosperity of the Empire. We are not currently accepting new corporations into the alliance. While I have no doubt that pilots of CVA have made any number of claims about themselves and their alliance, it seems clear than only PIE has actually filed the necessary forms appointing themselves Guardians of the Truth. -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!*
D'ceet Shadows of the Dead R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.04.29 23:48:00 - [12] so uh....only -4? Official D'ceet CSM Page.
3ll3 Gallente Tranquillity Nation	Posted - 2008.04.29 23:57:00 - [13] You say you asked us not to go? Bolocks your mail though well laid out was little more than bully boy threats saying how much you hated the sani sabik and those that went to the event would be put on the KO list for PIE unless we didnÆt go. While trying to make it sound like Mr Nice guy. And how Dare you put me at -4 I demand -10 from some one from PIE, I all ready set you personally and corp wise to -10 soon as I formed my corp I still despise PIE and VV and will if ever seen them in low sec or null sec attack on site. So donÆt try coming off as Mr golden boy to me Pal your nothing less than a Slaver only one step above that foul Sage & Onion. Me a member of the Raider indeed how rediculous and how insulting to put me at only -4.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.04.30 00:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Rodj Blake Istvaan Shogaatsu -10 So I've gone from kill-on-sight to... really really kill-on-sight?
Jonny Damordred Stimulus	Posted - 2008.04.30 00:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Felix Doestosvky Out of interest, will you be granting positive standings to Stimulus for actually turning up to disrupt proceedings whilst you did nothing? Thats a good question actually, what is Stimulus' point value? Cheers, Jonny D. ------------------------- CEO and Professor of Gunboat Diplomacy
Vlad Cetes Caldari Misfits Enterprises	Posted - 2008.04.30 01:16:00 - [16] Edited by: Vlad Cetes on 30/04/2008 01:24:03 /emote notices a new transmission. Its the ugly amarrian, spewing garbage as usual. "As is the case, infidel amarrian, you are blinded by the wool pulled over you eyes. You do not see the truth, you are blinded. There are two ways to see the truth. Death. Or assimilation into the fold. " /emote turns and takes a sip of his drink "Furthermore you are herby ordered to adjust my standings to that of my comrade and CEO." /emote pauses again "And if you have any problem with my activites or with those whom I socialize you may kiss my ass." "Ende" /emote cuts feed I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.04.30 01:26:00 - [17] Originally by: Rodj Blake The Cosmopolite -10 I am inclined to see this as the very definition of a moot point. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam	Posted - 2008.04.30 04:23:00 - [18] Amusing. As has been asked, what about those who turned up specificially to disrupt proceedings? Surely those who successfully downed two Bhallghorn-class battleships, one piloted by Revan herself who was subsequently podded deserve some merit? ...
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.04.30 04:31:00 - [19] Edited by: Garreck on 30/04/2008 04:34:08 Originally by: Becq Starforged While I have no doubt that pilots of CVA have made any number of claims about themselves and their alliance... I suppose this begs the question "what's in a name" eh, slave-kin? I do believe the proper forms were filled out during the application process which brought about the self-styled Curatores Veritatis Alliance. We're beginning to drift off topic, but my confusion was well justified.
Sinrath Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.04.30 04:47:00 - [20] Edited by: Sinrath on 30/04/2008 04:48:07 I am offended I have made no negative standings listing on your list. Rodj Blake how do I get on your special -6 list specifically? if you dont mind me asking. I was at the event, but I was not "VIP" is that my failing? - Wisdom is nothing, without perception.

Shiaari Amarr Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.04.30 05:09:00 - [21] Edited by: Shiaari on 30/04/2008 05:10:22 Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Yes the Golden Fleet did assemble to dispense justice. It then went to Heimatar to engage targets of actual importance. And didn't stay long.
Astarte Nosferatu Minmatar Canes Pugnaces	Posted - 2008.04.30 06:11:00 - [22] I really thought I had earned a lifetime -10 with the Amarr paramilitaries by now. Perhaps it's time to blow up another planet heh?
Atiana Obaani Interstellar Aid Society Celestial Imperative	Posted - 2008.04.30 06:39:00 - [23] While I myself and none of the members of the Imperative participated in this event, I have to say Mr. Blake that perhaps you are being a bit shortsighted? Would you have set the same standings to an organisation who participated to gather intelligence on the Sani Sabik? Possibly an individual or organization who was simply studying the Sani Sabik? Honestly Sir, you could possibly be compromising and killing people who might even be working for your interests inadvertantly. Just a though, but one I felt compelled to share.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.04.30 07:12:00 - [24] Originally by: Becq Starforged While I have no doubt that pilots of CVA have made any number of claims about themselves and their alliance, it seems clear than only PIE has actually filed the necessary forms appointing themselves Guardians of the Truth. Are you aware of the meaning of the words curatores veritatis? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.30 07:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Garreck Edited by: Garreck on 30/04/2008 04:34:08 Originally by: Becq Starforged While I have no doubt that pilots of CVA have made any number of claims about themselves and their alliance... I suppose this begs the question "what's in a name" eh, slave-kin? I do believe the proper forms were filled out during the application process which brought about the self-styled Curatores Veritatis Alliance. We're beginning to drift off topic, but my confusion was well justified. Now that I've run the name through a translator for ancient Amarrian, I see your point ... except that given the circumstances of CVA's founding, I could argue that it was, in fact, PIE that appointed you that title. But never mind that, I'll concede that both PIE and CVA claim to be Guardians of the Truth, all reality aside. -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2008.04.30 10:52:00 - [26] -4? Are you joking? Might start a wardec to be honest. -4 ... can't have that.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.04.30 11:19:00 - [27] Out of public interest, what is the semantics behind PIE Inc standings? What does -2, -4, -6, -8, -10 mean in practice? Not that it matters to me, personally. Us, you have chosen to wardec. Elsebeth Rhiannon -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil BLOOD EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.04.30 11:29:00 - [28] It is not my pleasure to enter a PIE transmission but as it is directed to an event that I hosted, I found it of good etiquette to give my respects in form of words. As I can see by the general feelings here: 1- My guests demands -10 and if you really want to make your point more then a few words here I'd grant them that. You also miss a hell of a lot we had over 70 people interacting with Sani Sabik event during the lenght of 6 hours of rituals. I suggest your intel to work on the matter as to give all heretics their propper placement inside the " Guardian's of truth " justice. * Revan stops for a moment containing a laugh, recomposes herself and continues * 2- I believe that the corporation of ex-SF free captains deserves their - 10 as well. Not only they contributed with their time and effort to join us at the games but also they were part of the rituals as well when the blood of the Sovereign opened the games as it was since the first games related at the Apocrypha. Give them the propper place into your list. 3- I've heard that I was set -9.999999999999... as the infinite last .1 required was left for divine judgement. 4- As you find me in very good spirits today I'm to communicate here that another ritual will set place now after 7 days of the game. The corpse of PIE Lieutanant killed during the Sani Sanik rituals will be brought to the main Bloodveil Temple for the cerimonies of purging "The blood of unholies" as it states the holy apocrypha. I'm however inclined to give back the body of said pilot to PIE after the rituals so you can proceed to deliverim him to God under your terms. With no more, may one say even the infidels of PIE blinded by the corruption of Pax Amarr find in their souls the true Amarrian spirit of ancestry, conquest, wars and reclaiming as expressed by the Holy Apocrypha. So mote it be. Signed Lady Neferis EvE-roleplayers
Eleana Tomelac Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2008.04.30 11:38:00 - [29] I shall watch this war between the guardians of slavery and the madmen who do not value life at all... I hope for much entertainement! -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Assault Frigates MK II
Astarte Nosferatu Minmatar Canes Pugnaces	Posted - 2008.04.30 15:46:00 - [30] Originally by: Eleana Tomelac and the madmen who do not value life at all... Au contraire mademoiselle Tomelac, the Sani Sabik value life very highly. It's just a matter of valueing some lives higher than others, that's all. The life of a guided soul is worth a thousand times of that of an unguided soul.



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