i lol'd. Do you even know what this thread is about?

The problem is that some corps flood the markets with ISK so they might change the economy and affecting every players experience risk-free. They often have a huge impact on the market but they are also "safe" at the same time. Their POS's can't be killed and their barges can only be killed by suiciding yourself. There should be Risk / Reward in eve but atm this game favours reward over risk.

And btw. imho "Industrial-Only" Corps that cant defend themselfs shouldnt exist in a "PVP" game at all. Look for another game or learn to defend yourself. Dont make the game easier for this guys.

The problem with that argument is that a corporation will not declare war on another corporation that can defend itself.

I actually agree with this - for high sec. If people don't want to pew, they shouldn't have to stay docked because someone else decided they want to pew them in high sec. But fix fleet wars and have some sort of new opt-in aggressive high sec play mechanic that gives you a "hazard pay" bonus to high sec activities if you participate.

Something like: before going into a mission, dead space, or mission mining site you can decide to disable Concord protection. If you do, Concord doesn't charge you for their normal services and you get paid like a 50% bonus or something. Same with courier missions - would give a whole new use for cov ops haulers.

Other than that, suicide gank or live in WHs, low sec, or null if you want to pew.

hahahahah no.

Why not just war-dec the corp the structure belongs to.

War-dec mechanics are a bit crap at the moment, but the op should not blame GMs for that.

Because that doesn't let you blow up the structure due to how the timers work.
Actually, you can, because it's the GMs (or, wellGǪ whoever set the GM policy on decshedding and decshields) that ensure that structures are pretty much invulnerable as a result of this policy change.

Considering how dirt easy it is to declare a war as the aggressor I find it no problem that it is equally dirt easy for the target to end the war.

1) Highsec wars would have the potential to escalate rapidly with friends and allies of corps joining into the conflicts which would generate a lot more targets for everyone to worry about - this benefits both the combat corps (more pew pew!) and the non-combat corps (more friends with guns to protect or distract from the bad guys)

2) People would pause and think just a wee bit more before entering a war because they will not know exactly what they would be getting into, and how far things would escalate out of control.

CCP removes the loopholes while they redesign the system. People whine about not being able to exploit the loopholes.

why dont all you leet highsec pvper stop whining and hit lowsec or take a jump into Nullsec.

Something is terribly wrong in the GM department.

They are payed to close tickets, not to help players. In fact, if they would actually solve problems they would make themselves redundant. Welcome to capitalism.

You sound awfully bitter. Every time I've found it necessary to open a ticket I've found the GMs to be helpful and pleasant.

The only problem I've seen from GMs recently is when one of them mistakenly changed the MOTD in the Recruitment channel but that was just fixed.

HOWEVER, it cannot be denied that the wardec system as it currently exists is a tool that is very often used for behavior that I, personally, would call griefing.

Any non douchebag would also call it that. The underlying problem is clearly that New Eden is full of douchebags.

i lol'd. Do you even know what this thread is about?

The problem is that some corps flood the markets with ISK so they might change the economy and affecting every players experience risk-free. They often have a huge impact on the market but they are also "safe" at the same time. Their POS's can't be killed and their barges can only be killed by suiciding yourself. There should be Risk / Reward in eve but atm this game favours reward over risk.

And btw. imho "Industrial-Only" Corps that cant defend themselfs shouldnt exist in a "PVP" game at all. Look for another game or learn to defend yourself. Dont make the game easier for this guys.

^^ Quoting for truth. They will. I know Paradox already rocked mine.

You and your guy's love triangles

EVE is never safe and we stand by that. I am not a game designer, so I have no true say in this, but I can honestly say that I do not think we will ever allow people to opt out of non-consensual danger and PVP. HOWEVER, it cannot be denied that the wardec system as it currently exists is a tool that is very often used for behavior that I, personally, would call griefing. Attacking a small, easy target for minimal cost is something for a small time criminal, not a PVP stud. Which means, in my personal opinion (in other words, this is not CCP gospel, nor a game design dogma), that paying cheap to gain an easy, semi-defenseless target should be able to be countered by equally cheap measures. EVE is harsh and often unfair, but that does not mean we cannot have some semblance of balance. When there is no balance to be had, the weight should fall in favor of the people wanting a good time. Besides, you can still suicide gank your target if you truly want that target dead. It is not like they are truly safe.

While that is possible (in theory), I do admit that is rather impractical.

Why not just war-dec the corp the structure belongs to.

There is a simple reason why wars fail in empire --- there is no point to them other then griefing. There is no reason to engage in a war in empire -- there is nothing to gain, no territory to hold, no resources to control. Even before decshield, if a player did not want to engage in a war -- they didnt --they would dock up, play alts, and you would never see them for the duration of the war. As for their pos'es -- well those would disappear - being taken down in the 24 hours before the war begins. Ultimately it is poor game design to force players to engage in a play style that they do not want to engage in -- so for wars to be a successful part of this game ccp must incentivizes them -- ccp must make it so that there is a reason to engage in the war. Controlling resources is the way that ccp should go and in this regard the custom houses point in the right direction. The custom houses are a resource flash point between players and they should be brought into empire at least up to .7 systems as an incentive for empire players to engage in conflict.

Yeah. Those reasons can usually be summed up as:

1. We want to gank a specific enemy because we know a) they are noobs b) they are carebears c) we have overwhelming force.
2. We want to fight people we know are not prepared for combat
3. We want to have all the niceties of high sec, namely, no one else can shoot at us and we can act like carebears when we're not at war or there are no WT in the system, and we don't want any logistics problems at all.
4. Hanging around Jita undock waiting for a null/lowsec alliance freighter pilot who didn't check his mail is the pinnacle of creativity for us.

I have no problem with any of that. My problem is people who whine about the rules while trying every single trick they can to get around those rules, when there are plenty of people itching to fight only 5 jumps away... It's this mentality of "I wanna fight I wanna fight anyone I am soo leet I wanna fight but no, not this fight, this is too much fight, I want a different fight - the fight where I'm sure to win!" - which usually ends up being the Brutix vs Mackinaw fight in a 0.6 system.

Sure, go on, make excuses to yourself but it's so obvious. All those rules and limitations stop bothering you in 0.4 and below. Only you won't do it. It's like the 20 guys that jump into our home system in nullsec acting all bad-arse in their hurricanes, cynabals and tornados, smacking up local after they kill some dumb hulk pilot who wasn't paying attention. Why do these guys always run when our 20-30 man defense fleet shows up? I thought they wanted to fight? Nah, I wanna fight but not this fight....

nused towers (or rather, moons) should be up for grabs (like secure cans, after 30 days).