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KHEN IGNITION.	Posted - 2008.04.30 08:46:00 - [1] Edited by: KHEN on 30/04/2008 08:49:54 too many bpcs at ME:0, to be copied a bpo should be at least at : ME:10 for all ships but capitals and supercaps ME:1 or 2 for capitals and freighters ME:1 for supercaps The Social Impact of EVE ? Originally by: Nyphur I'm hungry and naked. That answer your question?
agrajag119 Sev3rance	Posted - 2008.04.30 08:59:00 - [2] What is this supposed to solve? What perceived problem do you have with bpcs at ME:0?
Arthalion Thoidon Caldari Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence	Posted - 2008.04.30 09:02:00 - [3] BPC's at ME0 actually do have a purpose in life, ME and PE have no effect what so ever on invention, so why should an inventor have to buy high lvl ME bpc's when that has no use for him at all? And of course everyone researching ME at once will make the waiting times for ME research slots even longer, only research POS owners would want that. Simply because it's good for their business.
KHEN IGNITION.	Posted - 2008.04.30 09:04:00 - [4] Invention process don't care about the ME level of the bpc used, that leads to overproduction Invented bpcs could have better ME if the base bpc had good ME level The Social Impact of EVE ? Originally by: Nyphur I'm hungry and naked. That answer your question?
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.04.30 09:11:00 - [5] No-one's forcing you to buy them, but in fact there are lots of people who are in the market for ME 0 bpcs - they're ideal for inventors, who consume far more bpcs than people who just want to build T1 items. It's much easier to sell to them than to you and your kind, so why should people bother, unless they charge you a lot more? And then it's barely worth the mineral saving, so you'd still complain. I suspect that what you really mean is 'there aren't enough BPCs at higher ME levels'. Once you've got a well-researched BPO, however, it's often more profitable to keep it in production than it is to make copies. One problem is that contracts are very inflexible when it comes to buying blueprints - it's impossible to specify a WTB contract for a BPC or to specify a required level of research on a blueprint. A lot of people have proposed linking the results of invention to the ME/PE of the input BPC. This would also help, I suppose, at it would remove some of the demand for ME 0 BPCs. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Kuranta Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.04.30 09:17:00 - [6] Originally by: KHEN Edited by: KHEN on 30/04/2008 09:06:24 Invention process don't care about the ME level of the bpc used, that leads to overproduction Invented bpcs could have better ME if the base bpc had good ME level. the purpose would be to bring invention to an higher level of competition So you migt want to: - change the missleading thread titel to:ME and PE should affect invention - go to The Features and Idea Discussion subforum. I'm sure someone had this idea already (or use EVE Search)
Pizi Gallente	Posted - 2008.04.30 12:03:00 - [7] ME and PE should affect invention ---------- if i remember right, ?Chronotis? postet that they are working on something like this _______________________________________________ Mining Crystal II BPC Pricelist EVEpedia[Deutsch]
Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2008.04.30 12:25:00 - [8] In other words, the original poster wants to raise barriers to entry so he can make more isk. I don't have trouble with overproduction. That just means cheap stuff and a lot of people not getting in the way of my profit making.
KHEN IGNITION.	Posted - 2008.04.30 12:38:00 - [9] Originally by: Tasko Pal In other words, the original poster wants to raise barriers to entry so he can make more isk. I don't have trouble with overproduction. That just means cheap stuff and a lot of people not getting in the way of my profit making. If it was the case, I wouldn't have posted with my main. I don't say that this idea is good I submitted it to discussion, so please don't make this thread oriented against me personaly, I don't complain about invention, business is good for me aswell thx The Social Impact of EVE ? Originally by: Nyphur I'm hungry and naked. That answer your question?
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.04.30 17:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Pizi ME and PE should affect invention ---------- if i remember right, ?Chronotis? postet that they are working on something like this only if there were such a thing as max-ME / PE which could then be converted like runs these days - putting the gist back into logistics
Schani Kratnorr x13	Posted - 2008.05.01 11:05:00 - [11] Originally by: agrajag119 What is this supposed to solve? What perceived problem do you have with bpcs at ME:0? I was just thinking the same thing. Calling out randomly "change this, change that", doesn't really strike me as constructive
dutchinventor	Posted - 2008.05.03 11:06:00 - [12] Originally by: KHEN Edited by: KHEN on 30/04/2008 09:06:24 Invention process don't care about the ME level of the bpc used, that leads to overproduction Invented bpcs could have better ME if the base bpc had good ME level. the purpose would be to bring invention to an higher level of competition The ME level of the T1 bpo beeing copied has NO EFFECT AT ALL on the outcoming t2 bpc. If your t1 copied bpo = ME0 the outcoming ME lvl of the T2 bpc will be -4. Even if your t1 BPO = ME 100 the T2 bpc will still be ME -4. You can only alter the outcome of the ME lvl for T2 bpc by adding decryptors to the invention process.
Alias Alpha	Posted - 2008.05.03 23:49:00 - [13] They are burdened with the cost of posting a contract, if someone is buying unresearched they must have a reason... like the bpo isn't available or there are no other choices in local space for them, mebbe they don't want to fly to jita.
Sir Substance	Posted - 2008.05.11 03:45:00 - [14] do you have ANY IDEA how long it takes to research a capital BPO? all you will do is drive the price of capital BPC's right up, which is not helpful given they are already in the hundreds of millions, and not very profitable as it stands.

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