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PeacefullNub
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Posted - 2008.05.01 13:38:00 -
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First of all (before all of you will trow garbage in my direction) i personly dont think that its needed (i dont have enough experience anyway).
"Then why you created this stuppid topic?" you may ask.
Simple:
I (and i hope - not i alone) will link this thread every time when somebody tries (on different forums, in game chats) to proof that drake is good pvp ship.
It becomes very annoying to see femenine logic like this:
"my ham drake kills every other tier 2 bc at 15km on test server -> drake is best pvp bc -> drake better than any other BC in gangs."
(and drake kills indi -> drake is good transport ship btw).
Its completly impossible to explain, why some fleetcoms dont whant to take this uberpvndrake in gang, ppls just dont whant to listen.
But if they are right and drake is good in pvp, then drake definetly need nerf (looks like it best pve, missionrun and solo\gang pvp bc - hell, its IMBAship!) and harbi, myrm and huricane needs boost.
Lets switch their blind entusiasm in suitable for us direction. :)
P.S. Plz send some more drake pvpers here.
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Idxx
Amarr
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.01 13:42:00 -
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what
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NightmareX
Quam Singulari
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 01/05/2008 13:52:21
The Drake is good in one thing in PVP, and it's to be bait, because it tanks like a Battleship, and can hold the tank until the backup arives.
But then, Drake is known for not doing much damage, so it's not a problem to tank it.
So as i see it, the Drake don't need a Nerf for the monent. But if i had decided what to do with the Drake later, i would nerfed it's tank a little, but boosted it's damage.
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.01 13:49:00 -
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 Originally by: PeacefullNub
First of all (before all of you will trow garbage in my direction) i personly dont think that its needed (i dont have enough experience anyway).
"Then why you created this stuppid topic?" you may ask.
Simple:
I (and i hope - not i alone) will link this thread every time when somebody tries (on different forums, in game chats) to proof that drake is good pvp ship.
It becomes very annoying to see femenine logic like this:
"my ham drake kills every other tier 2 bc at 15km on test server -> drake is best pvp bc -> drake better than any other BC in gangs."
(and drake kills indi -> drake is good transport ship btw).
Its completly impossible to explain, why some fleetcoms dont whant to take this uberpvndrake in gang, ppls just dont whant to listen.
But if they are right and drake is good in pvp, then drake definetly need nerf (looks like it best pve, missionrun and solo\gang pvp bc - hell, its IMBAship!) and harbi, myrm and huricane needs boost.
Lets switch their blind entusiasm in suitable for us direction. :)
P.S. Plz send some more drake pvpers here.
There are three reasons.
1) Caldari pilots tend to not think for themselves. This is no joke - they tend to pick up on a seutp and then go with it, if enough people says they're crap for pvp, the whinesquad will make sure it's true.
2) Most people fit their drakes with huge tanks and nothing else. Often passively tanked. This means they will be in gang, deal some dps, and never get killed, at the expense of their gangmates.
3) As marked, missiles and fleets rarely match. There's a delay, which means it's harder to synchronize and if you have a fleet of goons that you'll have to tell what to do detail for detail what to do - the drakes won't match all other ships. Set a normal BC to fire on any vessel that approaches and you'll have have a chance for your potshots to actually hit and even hurt.
Same goes for ravens, except they're rarely AS defensively fitted as the Drakes.
The reasons why it's superior is:
1) Superior range
2) Least skillintensive of all BC's
3) "Immune" to most forms of EW
4) Great damage at suggested range
5) Fitting enough to easily make it a spidertank
6) Missiles(Always hit, selectable damagetypes, trackingless)
Is it greatly superior in all roles? Hell no. But it's def. in the top among the BC's, and I dare say the BC that holds most titles as "best in role".
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Gypsio III
Bambooule
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Posted - 2008.05.01 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
The Drake is good in one thing in PVP, and its to be bait, because it tanks like a Battleship, and can hold the tank until the backup arives.
But then, Drake is known for not doing much damage, so it's not a problem to tank it.
So as i see it, the Drake don't need a Nerf for the monent. But if i had decided what to do with the Drake later, i would nerfed its tank a little, but boosted it's damage.
My sole contribution to this thread will be to laugh at this post.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.05.01 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: PeacefullNub
...It becomes very annoying to see femenine logic like this:
"my ham drake kills every other tier 2 bc at 15km on test server -> drake is best pvp bc -> drake better than any other BC in gangs."
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What is feminine about that logic?
PeacefulNub
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Damneia Achernius
Drop of Blood
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Posted - 2008.05.01 14:27:00 -
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sight.. forced to post whit my alt as acc ran out :P
ok.. on topic.
as my main can fly all the BCs whit t2 gear... i can say this... none of them needs boosted or nerfed.
Drake: huge tank/crap damage or very wicked dps whit HAMS/very crap tank. balanced and perfect
Myrmidon: tank and good drone dps while being able to tackle well. not overpowerd anymore due to the nerf.
Harbinger: TOP dps :) cant tank well tho.
Hurricane: Can be nanod, can be tanked, can be made to "gank"... all fits have strong points and strong weaknesses :P
Brutix: if u tank it... you lose alot of dps. if you gank it... you lose alot of tank. fair deal
Ferox: can be good whit blasters and allso very nice rail platform... could use a bit of boost... not much tho :D
Prophecy: silly tanker.. damage is sux
Cyclone: ok tank, ok dps
atm in my hangar are PvP fitted:
Harbinger: gank fit
Hurricane: gank fit
Brutix: tank fit
Drake: passive tank fit
my point: all BCs are great atm. changeing them would wreck things alot :(
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AnKahn
Caldari
Occassus Republica
Legio Mithras
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Posted - 2008.05.01 14:28:00 -
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Everyone thinks the OTHER race has it so good.
Delayed damage? Anyone watch Ogre IIs move?
Over tanked? That's just many of us Caldari are a little timid and noob.
I am crosstraining Gallente and like their ships. They move so much better than Caldari. But now I'm unsure if I want my DPS to be so killable. And guess what? That's what Gallente pilots have been telling us all along. Everything is a trade off and EvE balance is not so bad.
When I buy another Drake Im going to leave the tank at home and give it speed and tackle and HAMs.
This point, I think, is kind of settled.
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Wu Jiun
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.01 14:30:00 -
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drake is an excellent pvp ship. ham drake has good damage with very good range and competitive hp buffer. its really easy, t2 hams, web, scram, mwd, 2 x invul, lse, 3 x bcs 2, dcu2, 3 x extender rigs. maybe needs a fitting imp.
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Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.01 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous
What is feminine about that logic?
He's Amarr. Of course he's a sexist bastard.
I fly a drake for level 4 missions. It has next to no DPS, especially compared to my friends flying Hurricanes, but it tanks well.
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Stuart Price
Caldari
Black Water.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: NightmareX
The Drake is good in one thing in PVP, and its to be bait, because it tanks like a Battleship, and can hold the tank until the backup arives.
But then, Drake is known for not doing much damage, so it's not a problem to tank it.
So as i see it, the Drake don't need a Nerf for the monent. But if i had decided what to do with the Drake later, i would nerfed its tank a little, but boosted it's damage.
My sole contribution to this thread will be to laugh at this post.
Gypsio in a Drake thread. I think I'll join you.
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General Spaz
Minmatar
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.01 15:10:00 -
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I'll play along.
The drake falls into the same category as most BC's. It can either be setup to tank or gank, period.
A dual rep Cane or passive shield Myrmm can tank just as well, ive never flown the Harbinger.
The Drake is still slower, has crap DPS unless HAM fitted (then it is paper anyways), and does nothing to nanoships.
It has no true role in a fleet except as bait, and you want it nerfed? only the tier 1 BC's need a boost.
Brutix is ok, not sure about the Proph.
Ferox and Cyclone: is there any reason to fly one of these?
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 15:18:00 -
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The Drake, for pvp combat, has an undeservedly bad reputation for the same reason a lot of other ships that have undeservedly bad repuations have them (like the tech 1 destroyers): a lot of people fit them in the crappiest ways. You take a ridiculously over-tanked Drake without damage mods (and maybe even without an mwd) into combat, and yeah of course it's gonna suck.
If you use its inherently good tanking ability to make a balanced fitting with mwd, tackling gear, and damage mods, you can have a good solo pvp ship that has all the mods it needs for a solo pvp combat ship, does decent dps and still has a tank as good as any other battlecruiser. (And I'm not even talking about the HAM Drake there.)
And as for missiles in fleets, it's only in larger fleets fighting over distance that it is a problem, and then only if people insist on shooting the freaking primary with them.
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Miranda Ceres
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Posted - 2008.05.01 15:20:00 -
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Myrmidon tanks more than the drake and does more damage. :)
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2008.05.01 15:20:00 -
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lol nerd got killed by drake it looks like
if you got caught flat footed by a slow drake you deserve to die 
drake is fine deal with it :)
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Miranda Ceres
Myrmidon tanks more than the drake and does more damage. :)
Not once you kill its drones and it runs out of cap charges.
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
lol nerd got killed by drake it looks like
if you got caught flat footed by a slow drake you deserve to die
drake is fine deal with it :)
You should probably read the opening post before writing down your opinion about the poster. Just sayin'...
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Kusha'an
Gallente
Equinox Industrial Co.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 16:16:00 -
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Just change the Myrm's high slots to missile hardpoints!!11ONE1!1!!ELEVENTY!!!
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Cautet
Precision Engineering
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.01 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Cautet on 01/05/2008 16:34:13
If someone asks whether they should bring a drake or a turret bc to a fleet fight theres a lot of good reasons why to bring the turret bc instead:
It's not going to be hitting anything except slow ships in a med range. Think about this for a minute. So it's not going to be hitting enemy recons because they are too fast or out of range. It's not going to be hitting interdictors or interceptors. It's not going to be hitting enemy fleet battleships because they are out of range. So it's primary ability is to hit anti-support bc. This is not a usefull role.
In other circumstances there are other reasons to bring it or not bring it, but in most circumstances outside of lowsec or 1-1 fights between bc on sisi, all other things being equal most fc's would rather see another rook or scorpion or flycatcher or rokh or cerb or a turret bc (including the ferox) on the field than a drake.
I'm not saying it's a bad ship, and ham drake sounds fun even though ive never tried it, but I still think there are better ships to bring for fleet, and for roaming.
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Aadi Grox
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.05.01 20:21:00 -
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Ferox is a completely inferior ship to the Brutix in every way, shape, and form in the blaster role. If you can't get in web range with a blaster ship you aren't doing it right.
Ham Drake rigged gives you a solid 80k EHP
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari
VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:23:00 -
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I guess my 700 dps drake is only good for baiting
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu
I guess my 700 dps drake is only good for baiting
post setup or I call shenanigans
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The Tzar
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: The Tzar on 01/05/2008 22:01:37
To the OP, once again a nerf is a suggested change to the game AND SHOULD BELONG IN FEATURES AND IDEAS DISCUSSION!
Drake does not need a nerf, you on the other hand...
edit : So we the above signed don't have to see these annoying nerf cry nerf threads
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Lona Lwyd
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Atsuko Ratu
I guess my 700 dps drake is only good for baiting
post setup or I call shenanigans
7 Heavy Assault launcher II
2 LSE II 10mn mwd, web, disruptor, invul
3 bcs II 1 dc II
3 extender rigs
ecm/combat drones
People that say that the Drake is only good for baiting is referring to the selfish bastards that pvp's in a 4 SPR II tank with only a warp disruptor as tackling gear, i.e some one that's pretty much useless for your gang. And most Drake pilots are like this.
But there are some Drake pilots with huuuuge sacks that doesn't go all out tank and actually adds in 3 damage mods.
I salute you!
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lona Lwyd
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Atsuko Ratu
I guess my 700 dps drake is only good for baiting
post setup or I call shenanigans
7 Heavy Assault launcher II
2 LSE II 10mn mwd, web, disruptor, invul
3 bcs II 1 dc II
3 extender rigs
ecm/combat drones
People that say that the Drake is only good for baiting is referring to the selfish bastards that pvp's in a 4 SPR II tank with only a warp disruptor as tackling gear, i.e some one that's pretty much useless for your gang. And most Drake pilots are like this.
But there are some Drake pilots with huuuuge sacks that doesn't go all out tank and actually adds in 3 damage mods.
I salute you!
Doesn't quite get to 700 (even with maxed skills) unless you use an implant though.
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Lona Lwyd
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:11:00 -
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You should be using implants if you're going to rig it anyway, but still quite a lot of dps considering the versatility and tank.
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Cautet
Precision Engineering
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu
I guess my 700 dps drake is only good for baiting
No, I bet it rats really good also.
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Euriti
Gallente
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: AnKahn
Everyone thinks the OTHER race has it so good.
Delayed damage? Anyone watch Ogre IIs move?
Over tanked? That's just many of us Caldari are a little timid and noob.
I am crosstraining Gallente and like their ships. They move so much better than Caldari. But now I'm unsure if I want my DPS to be so killable. And guess what? That's what Gallente pilots have been telling us all along. Everything is a trade off and EvE balance is not so bad.
When I buy another Drake Im going to leave the tank at home and give it speed and tackle and HAMs.
This point, I think, is kind of settled.
HAM drake has nice DPS and a big buffer.
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Eardianm
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Lona Lwyd
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Atsuko Ratu
I guess my 700 dps drake is only good for baiting
post setup or I call shenanigans
7 Heavy Assault launcher II
2 LSE II 10mn mwd, web, disruptor, invul
3 bcs II 1 dc II
3 extender rigs
ecm/combat drones
People that say that the Drake is only good for baiting is referring to the selfish bastards that pvp's in a 4 SPR II tank with only a warp disruptor as tackling gear, i.e some one that's pretty much useless for your gang. And most Drake pilots are like this.
But there are some Drake pilots with huuuuge sacks that doesn't go all out tank and actually adds in 3 damage mods.
I salute you!
Doesn't quite get to 700 (even with maxed skills) unless you use an implant though.
Nor does it fit. Copy and paste better next time. Or maybe try actually flying the ******* ship first 
(you won't even sniff 600dps with ewar drones, btw, short of max skills and 5% implants. 700dps in game is lol)
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: Hannobaal on 02/05/2008 00:13:37
Originally by: Eardianm
Originally by: Hannobaal
Doesn't quite get to 700 (even with maxed skills) unless you use an implant though.
Nor does it fit. Copy and paste better next time. Or maybe try actually flying the ******* ship first
(you won't even sniff 600dps with ewar drones, btw, short of max skills and 5% implants. 700dps in game is lol)
Well, I wasn't talking about the specific setup that was posted but about the gank fitted HAM Drake in general. With maxed skills, using an implant, using the tech 2 high damage missiles for ammo and with 4 damage mods (and of course 5 hobgoblin II's, not ECM drones) you will get 702 dps.
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari
VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 02/05/2008 02:57:10
7x ham 2s
2x invul 2
1x large extender 2
1x web 2
1x point 2
1x mwd 2
3x bcu 2
1x pdu 2 (best named if you don't have the skill at 5; also works if you use best named web with this skill at 4)
5x hobbys 2s
My actual fit. I don't get the 700 DPS unless I'm wearing implants. Much more flexible in DPS, range, and ease of use compared to any gun setup (can switch to 60km range, lose 100~dps to swap to any damage type, no transversal worries, etc.)
I'd also like to point out, that no BC will reach 700 dps "in game", simply because base resists will lower it well below 700.
And yes. I have a "huuuuuuge sac" 
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2008.05.02 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Cpt Cosmic
lol nerd got killed by drake it looks like
if you got caught flat footed by a slow drake you deserve to die
drake is fine deal with it :)
You should probably read the opening post before writing down your opinion about the poster. Just sayin'...
you should probably activate your irony detection unit cause it was a joke lol
btw fly what you like, if your corp doenst like it, change corp :) |
Clinically
Gallente
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.02 07:09:00 -
[33]
Oi, get out from underneath mah bridge! |
Lego Maniac
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.02 07:23:00 -
[34]
Originally by: General Spaz
Ferox and Cyclone: is there any reason to fly one of these?
ferox is the poor man's sniper
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HowlinMad Murdock
Caldari
No Trademark
Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.02 07:26:00 -
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NO the drake is awful in pvp, crap dps, huge tank nobody will fight it. it's a slow beast that is nothing more than bait!
/me runs off snickering at all the suckers that believe that and then die to my HAM drake
seriously though i just recently went back to the drake, and found it's awesome because ppl always think your tanked and slow... always the death of them |
GSMagrahorn
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Posted - 2008.05.02 08:07:00 -
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Its not the nerf the drake, its the boost all other Tier to BC LOL.
Because as we all know the hurricane, harbinger ang myrmidon all need a boost ... What?!?!?!?
What sort of boost does the op actually think the hurricane needs????
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Miranda Ceres
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Posted - 2008.05.02 09:01:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Miranda Ceres
Myrmidon tanks more than the drake and does more damage. :)
Not once you kill its drones and it runs out of cap charges.
Myrmidon passive shield tanks better than a drake bro. No cap charges here. |
THEDWARVEN
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Posted - 2008.05.02 10:20:00 -
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hahahahahahah..... whooooo.. hahahaha . sorry guys, just had to laugh... saw the topic and lolled, then read his post and lolled even harder. ur noob. thats all i can say. just buy the name of ur topic. ur grammar is apalling but u clearly dont speak english so its understandable, yet i cant bring myself from shedding tears of laughter when i read that first post of urs.
this thread is useless and IMO nobody should waste anymore time reading or writing on this thread. |
Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.05.02 11:19:00 -
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I agree, my drake is useless.
My harbinger needs an 8th turret and another lowslot and my hurricane needs a 100m3 drone bay.
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PeacefullNub
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Posted - 2008.05.02 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: PeacefullNub on 02/05/2008 11:40:34
I dont care what you think of me - im noob anyway:)
And i dont realy think that this thread will have any effect on boosts or nerfs of BC (thats why i started it in ships and modules).
But know what - it works!
After i linked it on my native forum in 50+ page holywar thread "drake in pvp" - all eft and combat calculator warriors (hey, they even tried to calculate 5 vs 5 gang combat and damage output on paper) suddenly disapeared.
Btw i personly think that drake is awesome pvp ship in some situations, but extremly useless in others, just like most ships.
P.S. Yes - i know that my english is bad. But i think that your russian is far whorse. |
Hannobaal
Gallente
Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 12:44:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Miranda Ceres
Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Miranda Ceres
Myrmidon tanks more than the drake and does more damage. :)
Not once you kill its drones and it runs out of cap charges.
Myrmidon passive shield tanks better than a drake bro. No cap charges here.
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AnKahn
Caldari
Occassus Republica
Legio Mithras
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Posted - 2008.05.02 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Miranda Ceres
Myrmidon in pvp combat is not much of a threat to anyone.
I have most of my skills in Caldari and used to fly the Drake and Raven exclusively. Skilled about 2 mil in drones and started flying Gallente ships.
Passive tanked Myrm has an incredible tank and may indeed have a stronger one than the Drake. The Drake can have that tank and still have a point tho. But since its slow as a brick anyone except a Battleship can escape. And yes a Drake will kill almost any BS if neither is speed fitted (and no WCS on BS) as long as the Drake dies not run out of ammo. The BS eventually will. But that is not realistic PvP.
Vs. I got full room aggro and was webbed and scrammed in Passive Myrm and was thinking what ship I would buy with the insurance money. The shield held. For PvP tho its just a mobile dronebay and the Domi is a better choice.
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.05.02 23:39:00 -
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Most of the setups here don't even fit, heh. But Atsuko's fits, hurts and looks like a winner imo.  |
Atsuko Ratu
Caldari
VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.05.03 00:21:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Boz Well
Most of the setups here don't even fit, heh. But Atsuko's fits, hurts and looks like a winner imo.
<3 |
SkyFlyer
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Posted - 2008.05.03 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: SkyFlyer on 03/05/2008 00:28:28
Originally by: PeacefullNub
First of all (before all of you will trow garbage in my direction) i personly dont think that its needed (i dont have enough experience anyway).
"Then why you created this stuppid topic?" you may ask.
Simple:
I (and i hope - not i alone) will link this thread every time when somebody tries (on different forums, in game chats) to proof that drake is good pvp ship.
It becomes very annoying to see femenine logic like this:
"my ham drake kills every other tier 2 bc at 15km on test server -> drake is best pvp bc -> drake better than any other BC in gangs."
(and drake kills indi -> drake is good transport ship btw).
Its completly impossible to explain, why some fleetcoms dont whant to take this uberpvndrake in gang, ppls just dont whant to listen.
But if they are right and drake is good in pvp, then drake definetly need nerf (looks like it best pve, missionrun and solo\gang pvp bc - hell, its IMBAship!) and harbi, myrm and huricane needs boost.
Lets switch their blind entusiasm in suitable for us direction. :)
P.S. Plz send some more drake pvpers here.
Imma say quit whining get skills up!!!
i liked the drake before the change and i still like it after the change sure but now i liek the nighthawk might b more expensive but way better in my opinion.
The Drake is a good and cool BC fullstop!!
quit whining get skills go yarring have fun |
Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L.
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.05.03 06:35:00 -
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Edited by: Raymond Sterns on 03/05/2008 06:36:02
Originally by: THEDWARVEN
hahahahahahah..... whooooo.. hahahaha . sorry guys, just had to laugh... saw the topic and lolled, then read his post and lolled even harder. ur noob. thats all i can say. just buy the name of ur topic. ur grammar is apalling but u clearly dont speak english so its understandable, yet i cant bring myself from shedding tears of laughter when i read that first post of urs.
this thread is useless and IMO nobody should waste anymore time reading or writing on this thread.
Originally by: SkyFlyer
Edited by: SkyFlyer on 03/05/2008 00:28:28
Originally by: PeacefullNub
First of all (before all of you will trow garbage in my direction) i personly dont think that its needed (i dont have enough experience anyway).
"Then why you created this stuppid topic?" you may ask.
Simple:
I (and i hope - not i alone) will link this thread every time when somebody tries (on different forums, in game chats) to proof that drake is good pvp ship.
It becomes very annoying to see femenine logic like this:
"my ham drake kills every other tier 2 bc at 15km on test server -> drake is best pvp bc -> drake better than any other BC in gangs."
(and drake kills indi -> drake is good transport ship btw).
Its completly impossible to explain, why some fleetcoms dont whant to take this uberpvndrake in gang, ppls just dont whant to listen.
But if they are right and drake is good in pvp, then drake definetly need nerf (looks like it best pve, missionrun and solo\gang pvp bc - hell, its IMBAship!) and harbi, myrm and huricane needs boost.
Lets switch their blind entusiasm in suitable for us direction. :)
P.S. Plz send some more drake pvpers here.
Imma say quit whining get skills up!!!
i liked the drake before the change and i still like it after the change sure but now i liek the nighthawk might b more expensive but way better in my opinion.
The Drake is a good and cool BC fullstop!!
quit whining get skills go yarring have fun
I'm sorry to derail, but...
Are you guys related?
I see some slight family resemblances. |
Sidephex
Vigoor Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.03 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lego Maniac
cyclone is cannon fodder
know some people who thought the same. until i changed their mind.
then again, id never engage a ham drake in my cyclone (learned the lesson lol) |
megalow blackstar
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Posted - 2008.05.03 13:06:00 -
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As a hardcore fan of the drake, it¦s sometimes get¦s tiresome to read all the negativ inputs on forum about it. Much of what is said is true. However, one must also remember that it wont take long training time to fly one ,,but to get it to work with it¦s suport skills, takes a lot longer. during this process, people tends to fly around with ****ty fittings and getting themshelves blown up ,, when i look into the killboards I hardly ever see any good fittings on drake that got unlucky ,,including some of my own misshapps. ( as noob too 0.0 jumping gate, thinking " there¦s prob no gatecamp here "
We all learn from our mistakes, no matter what ship we chooses to fly. drake is a drake and it¦s an odd meber of the caldari family and i think it Rocks no matter what keep up the debate guy¦s =) |
Fwaps Continuously
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Posted - 2008.05.05 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: megalow blackstar
As a hardcore fan of the drake, it¦s sometimes get¦s tiresome to read all the negativ inputs on forum about it. Much of what is said is true. However, one must also remember that it wont take long training time to fly one ,,but to get it to work with it¦s suport skills, takes a lot longer. during this process, people tends to fly around with ****ty fittings and getting themshelves blown up ,, when i look into the killboards I hardly ever see any good fittings on drake that got unlucky ,,including some of my own misshapps. ( as noob too 0.0 jumping gate, thinking " there¦s prob no gatecamp here "
We all learn from our mistakes, no matter what ship we chooses to fly. drake is a drake and it¦s an odd meber of the caldari family and i think it Rocks no matter what keep up the debate guy¦s =)
^ This ftw! - I still LOL when I think of the crap I installed into my first drake
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