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ardik
TunkbwahCorp GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:20:00 -
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Most excellent BRUCEs:
This will be my last address to you as Executor.
May as well get that out of the way as early in the address as possible. For almost exactly two years now (counting from the date we began actual recruitment for BRUCE, not from the date it was really founded), BRUCE has been at the core of my thoughts, at the center of my actions, foremost in my concerns. In that entire two years, I have taken exactly one week off from posting, piloting, praising and prodding - I got married.
I am, I must admit, tired. Lately the question has been asked - and rightfully so - why we have been sitting back, reacting slowly, not taking the offensive, etc. The question is a fair one, and the answer is simple: your leader is spent. BRUCE continues on, though, and your successor will be announced in the next day or two, and this person will no doubt lead a great charge to recapture that which has been lost, and restore BRUCE to road of glory it was trodding down.
FOOM will be taking another road; the corporation, like its leader, must now take another path. Rest assured that we will never turn our guns towards BRUCE, and that our future may very well cross paths with yours again. You may safely assume that wherever FOOM travels, the name of BRUCE is still defended. Quite a few members of FOOM may wish to remain when we depart; I have no doubt that the corporations of this alliance will welcome them to their new homes. It may be that a few of you wish to follow where FOOM is going, but our path for the future is going back to Empire, and there, to settle some very old scores and bathe in blood of long-remembered debts. It is not a road for any but the aggressive and violent BRUCE, and even then, we will be taking very few with us. I would encourage you to stay.
BRUCE has long been accused of being a cult of personality. While this is a flattering notion to me, I reject it. BRUCE is a cult of a different sort - a cult of ideology. That ideology - that miners, traders, missioners, and pvp'rs stand shoulder to shoulder, that we help each other because we should, and that a culture of NOT being vile whenever you can - lives on. The idea of the BRUCE: studied, cautious, clever, quick to avenge and long to ally, lives on. The founding principles of BRUCE live on in you, the member. Every time a pilot stands up for themselves, every time a pilot gives a ship to another because they need one, every time a favor is done just because it could be - BRUCE becomes more of a cult of ideology. BRUCE is far greater than one man; certainly far greater than this one.
Hard times are ahead. I am not the one to lead you through it. The road, though, is clear, and the direction will be given. Know your Reps still watch out for you, and that the new Executor will have all the charisma, character, and cleverness you have come to know. I fully expect that BRUCE will come to secure all of Fountain in due time, and PL - like 9th Fleet, like Huzzah, like ExM, like OSS, all of whom seemed insurmountable foes once - will be ground under the heel of the BRUCEian behemoth, and become yet another foe smashed under BRUCE's might. New commanders will rise; new leaders will point the way. New fleets will be generated, and new ideas followed. Greatness still stands on the horizon for BRUCE. I have no doubt that the new leader, so named, will address you all in a day or two.
But for me, the chair grows cold, the sceptre heavy, and the crown uncomfortable. My time is done. I have no doubt that FOOM and BRUCE will cross paths again, and no doubt that I will once again come to know you all, but for now, if you may forgive the misquotation:
The Parrots and their leader are all shagged out from a prolonged squawk, and we pine for the fjords.
Good luck, good hunting, and godspeed. If I may make one final request:
Make me proud, and make the BRUCE name shine.
LONG LIVE THE BRUCES! o/ -Friedrick Psitalon, CEO, The Dead Parrot Shoppe
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Tradesman Mcgee
Caldari Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:25:00 -
[2]
Long live the BRUCES! -------------------------- Insert signature. |

Captain Internet
Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:27:00 -
[3]
HAIL BRUCES
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:27:00 -
[4]
Wait, the OSS was an insurmountable foe to someone, at some point?
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:32:00 -
[5]
Gdi PL bruce was supposed to be our holiday reward funtime for winning the siege of delve.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:32:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 01/05/2008 21:33:06 ^^ pure pwnage ^^
edit goddammit not that post I mean just fleeing back to empire because there's 40 guys in recons in your region :twisted twisted twisted:
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:34:00 -
[7]
So Freidrick completely fails to rally his alliance to effectively defend their space, loses his carrier and quits the alliance in a sulk, ripping the heart out of BRUCE just at the moment they need stability the most? BRUCE deserved better than a tl;dr post full of empty platitudes followed by him making a bolt for the door the moment things stopped going his way.
Never has a personality cult been constructed on such a flimsy house of cards.  -----------
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Amthrianius
Keiretsu Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:36:00 -
[8]
Damn those BRUCE's sure are a tough target to deal with.
Glad you guys are showing them that the full force of goons and PL is something to be reckoned with. ---------------
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Urban II
Amarr The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:38:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Scatim Helicon Never has a personality cult been constructed on such a flimsy house of cards. 
Someone ought to be thanking you for this slow pitch, Scatim.
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:39:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Never has a personality cult been constructed on such a flimsy house of cards. 
You can say this, as a member of Goonfleet? Seriously?
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sakana
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:40:00 -
[11]
This is obviously a clever hoax....
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:54:00 -
[12]
I should take over :3 _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |

Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:58:00 -
[13]
It's me, I'm da BRUCE in da OP.
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Kalmanaka
Caldari Blueprint Haus Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.05.01 21:59:00 -
[14]
It must be true because he posted as Friedrick.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:04:00 -
[15]
Nice try, 6/10 for how well it was written, though.
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Inquisitor Barbarus
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:06:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Dianeces It's me, I'm da BRUCE in da OP.
Id follow you if you were !!!
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:06:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Nice try, 6/10 for how well it was written, though.
It was written by friedrich.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:08:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Nice try, 6/10 for how well it was written, though.
It was written by friedrich.
Oh, right, forgot. Where exactly was it written, then?
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:12:00 -
[19]
Seriously, I should take over :Z _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |

Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:12:00 -
[20]
Edited by: Equin on 01/05/2008 22:12:53
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Nice try, 6/10 for how well it was written, though.
It was written by friedrich.
Oh, right, forgot. Where exactly was it written, then?
Bruce forums.
Seriously, are you really this dumb or are you just the lamest troll ever.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:13:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Equin
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Nice try, 6/10 for how well it was written, though.
It was written by friedrich.
Oh, right, forgot. Where exactly was it written, then?
Bruce forums.
Link to the actual post, tbh.
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Honest Nonlabor
Amarr IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:14:00 -
[22]
Fake.
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Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:15:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Equin
Originally by: Viper ****zIe
Originally by: Narciss Sevar
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Nice try, 6/10 for how well it was written, though.
It was written by friedrich.
Oh, right, forgot. Where exactly was it written, then?
Bruce forums.
Link to the actual post, tbh.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:24:00 -
[24]
Best of luck on your journey Friedrich, I think you chose to exit at the right time.
Fly safe.
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ardik
TunkbwahCorp GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:30:00 -
[25]
Seriously though, lots of people quite liked BRUCE, for various reasons. But then you started taking in entire corps from failed alliances like ISS and RISE, and this was after bob had pillaged those corps of anything even remotely useful.
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Eltyron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:41:00 -
[26]
I wish BRUCE the best of luck in the near future. Your alliance has a great idealogy, however in Eve 0.0, you need more than just that.
I sincerely hope the remaining leaders can keep the alliance together, and imo, that entails honesty and ego-checking. You've made your bed, and now you are being forced to sleep in it on the wrong side of the spoon. Admit and learn from your mistakes. Don't delude your members or you won't have an alliance left to hold together.
Fly safe, until you don't.
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12oz Jesus
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:49:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Scatim Helicon So Freidrick completely fails to rally his alliance to effectively defend their space, loses his carrier and quits the alliance in a sulk, ripping the heart out of BRUCE just at the moment they need stability the most? BRUCE deserved better than a tl;dr post full of empty platitudes followed by him making a bolt for the door the moment things stopped going his way.
Never has a personality cult been constructed on such a flimsy house of cards. 
And what have you built lately, Scatim?
-1 to me for allowing a troll to even ellicit a response.
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Honest Nonlabor
Amarr IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.01 22:51:00 -
[28]
CONFIRMED.
I retract my earlier statement, he posted this on the bruce forums like....3 minutes ago....now how did the goons get the post BEFORE it was on the BRUCE forums huh?
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Melchiorre
Omen Incorporated Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:03:00 -
[29]
Last one out, turn the lights off! Join Us! |

Friedrick Psitalon
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:03:00 -
[30]
Woot! First in a thread about ME!
...oh bugger. No I'm not. Oh well.
Does having a thread about me officially make me l33t or famous or something? 
In all seriousness:
I'll confirm everything in the OP. It's true, and I have no shame in it. I'm immensely proud of where BRUCE has gone - from a noob anti-pirate corp in Aeschee, growing up as a major power in Syndicate, and then controlling the lion's share of Fountain. Say what you like about how we got everywhere we did - we did it. Us, an alliance founded and run by people who've been playing for two years. (Truth - check Friedrick's start date.)
I'm personally tired and worn out. Running an alliance for two years does that to you. My successor will step up, and they'll accomplish great things, and they'll move on. BRUCE is a cult of ideology, but there's a lot more to it than that. They'll be fine when FOOM leaves - and I'm sure they'll be here to be smacked on by you folks for a long time to come, as you daily talk about how they're falling apart and noobs and not going to make it and so on....
BRUCE made it this long. They'll make it quite awhile longer. 
LONG LIVE THE BRUCES! o/
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Friedrick Psitalon
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:05:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Nice try, 6/10 for how well it was written, though.
Hey - not sure I know you, but thanks for the vote of confidence, however misplaced is must have been in this case. :)
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Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:10:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Honest Nonlabor CONFIRMED.
I retract my earlier statement, he posted this on the bruce forums like....3 minutes ago....now how did the goons get the post BEFORE it was on the BRUCE forums huh?
Quoting to annoy Viper ****zle
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Sally Bestonge
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:13:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Honest Nonlabor CONFIRMED.
I retract my earlier statement, he posted this on the bruce forums like....3 minutes ago....now how did the goons get the post BEFORE it was on the BRUCE forums huh?
director forums usually get these kinds of things first.
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ardik
TunkbwahCorp GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:15:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Honest Nonlabor CONFIRMED.
I retract my earlier statement, he posted this on the bruce forums like....3 minutes ago....now how did the goons get the post BEFORE it was on the BRUCE forums huh?
sometimes i post from the future, no big deal
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Honest Nonlabor
Amarr IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:17:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Sally Bestonge
Originally by: Honest Nonlabor CONFIRMED.
I retract my earlier statement, he posted this on the bruce forums like....3 minutes ago....now how did the goons get the post BEFORE it was on the BRUCE forums huh?
director forums usually get these kinds of things first.
Ya know, that really DOES explain alot......
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati. Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:23:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Zeitgueist
Originally by: Honest Nonlabor CONFIRMED.
I retract my earlier statement, he posted this on the bruce forums like....3 minutes ago....now how did the goons get the post BEFORE it was on the BRUCE forums huh?
Quoting to annoy Viper ****zle
I didn't see it on their forums 
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Sally Bestonge
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:23:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Friedrick Psitalon
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Nice try, 6/10 for how well it was written, though.
Hey - not sure I know you, but thanks for the vote of confidence, however misplaced is must have been in this case. :)
you chatting in TS right now?
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Coren Skyus
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.05.01 23:40:00 -
[38]
Goodness. I leave you for 3 weeks and you guys decide to fold shop? I know my awesomeness is 9/10, but wow... my head is starting to inflate. 
Anyway, best of luck to BRUCE and FOOM. It was great flying under your lead for so long Fried and I am sure FOOM is in store for some fun stuff (it sounds like it).
Deep space lag ftmfl.
o7 |

Locutus ofBorg
Caldari The Raging Armada Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 00:16:00 -
[39]
Long live the Coo Coo. Fried although i have spent a limited amount of time in BRUCE, it has changed my eve experience forever. This is the first time I have had a positive sec rating. The first time i've had friends and family to rely upon. Hell, the first time i've felt like i've belong somewhere. I just want to thank you for everything you have done.
LONG LIVE THE BRUCES!!!!!!!

Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |

Don ZOLA
Caldari Omniscient Order Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.02 00:20:00 -
[40]
gl in future friedrick & co.
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Eldwinn
FDF Industries Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.05.02 00:43:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Locutus ofBorg Long live the Coo Coo. Fried although i have spent a limited amount of time in BRUCE, it has changed my eve experience forever. This is the first time I have had a positive sec rating. The first time i've had friends and family to rely upon. Hell, the first time i've felt like i've belong somewhere. I just want to thank you for everything you have done.
LONG LIVE THE BRUCES!!!!!!!
You're such a little carebear now, Mini. 
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Paart
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Posted - 2008.05.02 00:51:00 -
[42]
Fried, you have lead exceptionally well.
You have demonstrated a creatvity, zeal and integrity not often found in real life let alone a game.
You have set a bench mark for EvE Alliance Leadership that every Bruce has noted and understood.
o7
Paart
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Tekka
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 01:02:00 -
[43]
Good riddance, now let the removal of BRUCE from fountain continue as planned. |

Sally Bestonge
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.02 01:08:00 -
[44]
this thread isn't getting enough attention yet.
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IronGoldenEagle
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 01:11:00 -
[45]
Tekka, coming from a disgraced traitor your post means nothing.
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Tekka
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 01:12:00 -
[46]
They're probably all busy fighting for new positions in a soon to be dead alliance, of course the smart ones will be moving their assets to a safe place! |

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.02 01:13:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Sally Bestonge
you chatting in TS right now?
Shhhhh little Bee.
Fly safe Friedrick, but you are correct, new leadership is indeed needed in Bruce. You gave it a good innings.
___
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Tekka
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 01:16:00 -
[48]
The leadership messed with me and the leadership is now paying the price, they deserve all the fireworks they're about to get. |

Ash2k7
Madison Industrial Co. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 01:24:00 -
[49]
Thanks to Fried and FOOM for all their hard work. An amazing job and congratulations to all of you for what you built.
Good luck to all of you in the future.
Fly safe.
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 01:50:00 -
[50]
This is easily the best thread I've read today.
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.05.02 02:04:00 -
[51]
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle Tekka, coming from a disgraced traitor your post means nothing.
I'm going to talk to a rep about your posts on CAOD. They could offend a pro traitor alliance such as BoB. Remember you're a representative of Bruce so your behavior is very important. |

Shinma Apollo
Caldari The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 02:04:00 -
[52]
Fried, you've truly been a leader in every sense of the word. A great FC, a excellent and shrewd alliance leader, and always willing to make the time to talk to the rank and file. o7, it's been a pleasure flying under you. |

Sacul
Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.05.02 02:14:00 -
[53]
wut wot? no more mkIII pitchforks? i R confused  |

Gamesguy
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.02 02:30:00 -
[54]
Wait, so who's attacking foutain? |

Honest Nonlabor
Amarr IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.02 03:29:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Gamesguy Wait, so who's attacking foutain?
DO IIIIIITTTTTTTTTT!
Comeon, you know you wanna! |

Eltyron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.02 03:29:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Gamesguy Wait, so who's attacking foutain?
Apparently those pesky Serpentis Pirates led by the self appointed Overlord Brynn are. BRUCE are valiantly trying to defend. A quick count in BRUCE space shows tens of thousands of Serpentis Ships destroyed in the last 24 hours, but is it enough?
Only time will tell. |

Ariko Gunaris
Gallente Office of Ganking and Commerce
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Posted - 2008.05.02 03:32:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Ariko Gunaris on 02/05/2008 03:34:03 BoB was too much of a challenge, so PL decided to fight someone more on their level.
I guess dinner in NOL had some uninvited guests.
Anyway, I nominate Tyrrax as Bruce's next leader. |

Aravorn
Gallente The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 03:39:00 -
[58]
Look forward to the new direction Fried  |

cirus670
Caldari The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 03:49:00 -
[59]
Foom is in no way done with BRUCE. We are gonna take a break and then do some payback to those who were non too kind in the past. |

Lethos Aranis
Australia and New Zealand Eve Corp Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 04:28:00 -
[60]
While it does come as quite a shock to see FOOM go, and you too Fried, I respect your decisions.
Good luck to all of you and fly safe 0/ |

Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.05.02 04:52:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 02/05/2008 04:55:45
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Seriously, I should take over :Z
yes you can embezzle their isk and buy a fedathron and then have it stolen from you and given to entity, o wait wouldn't want to repeat yourself, maybe you should just microsmartbomb their titan so bob can kill it, hmm nvm bob can kill online titans now, guess they don't need your infiltraty services :(
You're right tho, what the bruces really need is a washed up burned out has-been attention hwore of a scammer for their new alliance leader, hey ! maybe I should apply too ! i'd probly have a better chance than you tho since there's no GH-SC in my employment history |

Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2008.05.02 04:59:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 02/05/2008 04:55:45
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Seriously, I should take over :Z
yes you can embezzle their isk and buy a fedathron and then have it stolen from you and given to entity, o wait wouldn't want to repeat yourself, maybe you should just microsmartbomb their titan so bob can kill it, hmm nvm bob can kill online titans now, guess they don't need your infiltraty services :(
You're right tho, what the bruces really need is a washed up burned out has-been attention hwore of a scammer for their new alliance leader, hey ! maybe I should apply too ! i'd probly have a better chance than you tho since there's no GH-SC in my employment history
Nope, just a history of failure after failure. |

Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.05.02 05:19:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 02/05/2008 04:55:45
Originally by: DigitalCommunist Seriously, I should take over :Z
yes you can embezzle their isk and buy a fedathron and then have it stolen from you and given to entity, o wait wouldn't want to repeat yourself, maybe you should just microsmartbomb their titan so bob can kill it, hmm nvm bob can kill online titans now, guess they don't need your infiltraty services :(
You're right tho, what the bruces really need is a washed up burned out has-been attention hwore of a scammer for their new alliance leader, hey ! maybe I should apply too ! i'd probly have a better chance than you tho since there's no GH-SC in my employment history
Is this post shamefully bitter, or just shamefully unfunny? |

omplapa
Caldari R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 05:45:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Tekka They're probably all busy fighting for new positions in a soon to be dead alliance, of course the smart ones will be moving their assets to a safe place!
   yes this is all because of you tekka..take your deep core mining club and go spank em...geeeesus  |

omplapa
Caldari R.A.G.N.A.R.O.K.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 05:47:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Tekka Edited by: Tekka on 02/05/2008 01:21:14
Quote: Tekka, coming from a disgraced traitor your post means nothing.
The leadership messed with me and the leadership is now paying the price, they deserve all the fireworks they're about to get.
i ment to quote this  |

Attak
Trioptimum
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Posted - 2008.05.02 06:16:00 -
[66]
Ok, I'm going to call it like this:
1) BRUCE suffers leadership vaccuum, apparent when they cannot muster fleets or organize ops against serious threats. 2) BRUCE begins to lose POS fights, and due to their lack of allies (lol cloud ring) and lack of sov 4 systems their territory comes under seige very quickly. 3) BRUCE failure cascades with PVPers leaving for BoB or TRI, carebears going to various rental/pet alliances, and a few die hard players fleeing to syndicate with the obligatory "we're finally free from POS" announcement. 4) BoB does a clean sweep and POS spams key systems, taking the region back.
It may be that BRUCE's last contribution to the coalition will be to distract the BoB logistics team for a couple weeks.
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Clinically
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.02 06:39:00 -
[67]
Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very alliance.
I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now. |

Saltire
Virulence. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.02 06:54:00 -
[68]
having been bruce's schoolmaster in syndicate im pleased to see my frequent schoolings taught you well, its a shame to see my hard work being troden on by eve's rodents.
good luck guys.
maybe some of the old sylo guys will come back and pop another 350 of you in MHC again soon! |

Green Onions
Funk Fu Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.02 07:18:00 -
[69]
Chin up Bruce's, shame your tenure of Fountain is so far mimicking Xelas run. Be interesting to see if you guys can pick up the pieces, as it's far from lost.
Just remember with a bit of practice, any one can be as good as Bruce Lee ;)
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.05.02 07:36:00 -
[70]
Somebody's trying to hurt my feelings on CAOD. So much for 2008..  |

DALE0404
The Singularity Project Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 08:00:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Green Onions Chin up Bruce's, shame your tenure of Fountain is so far mimicking Xelas run. Be interesting to see if you guys can pick up the pieces, as it's far from lost.
Just remember with a bit of practice, any one can be as good as Bruce Lee ;)
We all move on peeps, just like BRUCE will. For all that Fried has done, 1 person does not make an alliance. People will step up, take on new roles etc etc. Its a blip, abeit a big blip but a blip all the same.
See you all out there.
Btw, Fried: very very Respect dude. |

Mr Rive
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.02 08:48:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Saltire having been bruce's schoolmaster in syndicate im pleased to see my frequent schoolings taught you well, its a shame to see my hard work being troden on by eve's rodents.
good luck guys.
maybe some of the old sylo guys will come back and pop another 350 of you in MHC again soon!
I'm a rodent, squeak!
meep meep get out of my way i have some very urgent rat buisess to attend to! |

nomlasmit
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.02 08:58:00 -
[73]
Edited by: nomlasmit on 02/05/2008 08:58:05
Originally by: Clinically Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very alliance.
I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
Thread winner tbfh... |

wide
Ordos Humanitas Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 09:42:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Clinically Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very alliance.
I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
Monty Python to the rescue! |

Aralt Aran
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Posted - 2008.05.02 09:59:00 -
[75]
Hint for BOB,Y-2 is for the take ,thanks to the masterplan of PL and the GOONS.All Bruce towers will be removed from there . |

LKM
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Posted - 2008.05.02 10:25:00 -
[76]
tbqh any large alliance that wanted fountain could easily take it from BRUCE with little to no effort. Of course everyone already knows that except BRUCE. |

hormonal babe
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Posted - 2008.05.02 11:13:00 -
[77]
Going to miss you Fried - best of luck to you and Foom. I'm sure we'll all meet again :) |

Tradesman Mcgee
Caldari Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.05.02 11:46:00 -
[78]
And so die yet another democracy. May I suggest you try a dictatorship next time perhaps? Except the dictator should preferably not suck and stuff. |

Eihmon
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Posted - 2008.05.02 12:46:00 -
[79]
Fried, you really should have listened to the more reasonable voices within your alliance.
Example:
http://forums.dabruce.com/viewtopic.php?t=14040
I know I'm in the minority here, but I'll have to voice my opinion anyway. I fear we may be letting our own pride prevent us from seeing a pragmatic end to this situation.
A short trip down memory lane....When I joined FOOM, back in Aeschee, you guys had just finished negotiating terms for peace with TBSV. They demanded "peace money" I think on the order of 200m. I read the transcript of how that decision was made. I knew it couldn't have been easy for a young but yet somewhat proud corp to swallow that pride and pay. Yet you did(well I think Trayk did out of his own wallet), and frankly FOOM has done nothing but prosper since. Sure we had to fight many other hostile forces/wardecs even in our little corner of Aeschee, but not having to worry about TBSV gave us some breathing room.
I know the decision to go back to Aeschee is final. But I still want to see Bruce survive and succeed. I think perhaps sitting down with PL again and see if some common ground can be reached, may well be worthwhile.
BRUCE is too young to be faced with this. And with MC folding, well...I don't think it's a stretch to see Bob coming next. If PL can help defend Fountain, well they would be well worth the moons, more so than MH and even MM. To be quite honest.
They have been fairly logical with their stance. I hate to say it, but MH was NOT contributing ANYTHING to Fountain defense once they pulled out. Honestly, how much DID we owe them?
PL saw an opportunity and they grabbed it. Who wouldn't? Heck we saw an opportunity with RISE/USOH and we grabbed it too. Did we warn them first, before taking their outpost?
I'm sure we can dissect things and find reasons to hate PL. But I'm hoping maybe we can find a more pragmatic solution to this that still allows BRUCE to remain in Fountain, at least until Bob comes a knocking.
Some breathing room, as well as the sense of urgency to improve, may be what we need to save Bruce. Maybe not with FOOM in the picture, but I'd like to see us leave Bruce in a decent position.
I don't know...All this "OMG You guys insulted us FIRST!" bravado, I think, is really clouding our judgment. Or maybe I'm just a softie... |

Phisix
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.05.02 13:07:00 -
[80]
Quote: I just went through the "VIPs" list for BRUCE and... I don't see a single name that jumps out at me.
Arrjimlad could probably make a decent leader, but I doubt he'd take it and I haven't seen him active of late.
Kalavoz could be a good leader - with a council of competent help (yeah, we saw how that worked) - but I don't think he has the time for it and may not want it.
Zimroel - I would love to see that self-important, overly-self-impressed, dimplomatically inept, all-around anal orifice (sober or drunk) try it and fail miserably, but he's smart enough to know he doesn't have 1/10 the support he'd need. Also, he would rob the alliance blind at some point.
Manas - He'll cause an immediate fracture. Some will follow him others will leave if he takes over. If BRUCE survived, he would accelerate the slide of BRUCE into a "populist" alliance that would equate to average to sub-standard just "anybodies" to fill numbers on a stat page and ships in space (in dwindling percentages of participation, of course). He will make serious diplomatic gaffs unless he finds himself too busy to be hands-on in this area or is grossly overruled.
My advice is to give the alliance 2 or 3 days at least to hash out who will succeed FP while FP is still in charge to keep some order. It is likely to be painting furniture on the Titanic, but BRUCE deserves that at least.
To be clear, I don't mean to banter about observations/accusations of others' faults with no recognition of my own. I admit many, but I also never had any desire to run a corp, much less a multi-thousand pilot alliance. The preceeding is simply my .02 on what would have been a salvation to BRUCE - appointing a worthy successor before FP went away. I mean no ill-will to any of the above - except Zim, who is just a *****.
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BobbySteelz
Hemp Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.02 13:48:00 -
[81]
Sad the level some people take this "game"
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Skags
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 15:21:00 -
[82]
I look forward to this new venture and look forward to having more time for my wife and child in RL. I look forward to racing my R1 on the vegas track and not being affraid of a raid or POS mails in my mail box. I look forward to less to no drama. I look forward to a omgwtfbbq lvl 5 mission. I love this game but it was losing its luster due to posts like this. We all play this game for the fun well atleast I do and that and I know alot of BRUCE does. Bruce no matter what to all alliences out there has shown respect to everyone from the day of being built. There are a few lose tungs but how can you controle all 3k+ players on there thoughts. You guys wish to see Bruce gone but then think of how you will miss the allience for the fun PvP you can get from them. Enjoy this game instead of trying to destroy it and people. There are far worse things to tend to like trying to keep your car fuel topped off at 4.00 a gallon or home forclosure. |

Meriones
The Singularity Project Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 16:24:00 -
[83]
Friedrick Psitalon - thanks for everything you did for Bruce and the whole community behind the alliance. You creativity, great vision and way of leading will be well known to everyone who had the great opportunity to work with you. You and your Choo choo will be missed. Timing could have been better to annunce this but guess what the Goons beat you anyway and no one is perfect.
The Bruce idea will however life further. Alliances and Corporations aren't made by one or around one person: they are about the normal pilots ... fellow Bruces. We fight, we die, we do mistakes, we learn from them and get back stronger then ever before. The experience under FPs command will again give us a lot of positive and some negative things to think aboutand and try to improve in the future.
Ahead of Bruce there is a new era. Bruce is not limited to our space, region or to some pilots. It's an ideology, a belief that a community of players working together to achieve greater good and goals bigger then them. We try to improve every single day and this is not the end ... it's just the beggining of a new era ahead of us, Bruces.
Repect and good luck to FP and FOOM.
Long live the Bruces!
o7 |

Manas
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 16:46:00 -
[84]
The work Friedrick Psitalon had done to build up BRUCE was nothing short of incredible. There are not many examples of an alliance so successfully built up from its modest origins in low-sec. Although you are leaving BRUCE, we shall take good care of her in your absence. The BRUCE spirt lives. You have taught us that Eve can be played without resorting to password/forum hacking and mindless smacking, and yet with some pride. That was certainly something worth doing.
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Dizeezer Velar
Caldari Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.02 16:47:00 -
[85]
BRUCE members sound alot like Scientologists defending this "BRUCE Ideology". |

Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.05.02 16:49:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Dizeezer Velar BRUCE members sound alot like Scientologists defending this "BRUCE Ideology".
Scientologists are better scammers though. |

Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.02 16:51:00 -
[87]
It's a lot more like one of those weird cults where the leader and his inner circle run off with all the money and the cultists are so brainwashed/stupid they still laud them as the best thing ever. You guys really need to take your heads out of your behinds. This level of delusion is dangerous even if it is just a game. |

Dizeezer Velar
Caldari Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.02 16:56:00 -
[88]
hmm good point. |

cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 17:13:00 -
[89]
Friedrich, you were an awesome executor, and I hope you know that whatever happens, we will always remember the good times, the laughs, the excitement, and the pew-pew. You helped build a great alliance, one that I am proud to be a member of. I daresay that even though FOOM is going its own way now, the bonds of friendship between FOOM and BRUCE shall not weaken. I look forward to flying with you again in the not-so-distant future. Until then, fly safe and have fun. o7 |

Antikas Sourr
Caldari FACTION Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 17:20:00 -
[90]
In the four weeks of time I spent in BRUCE, I had the best time in my "EvE life" than I ever imagined. I'm shocked to see this, and I hope BRUCE becomes stronger as I plan to return... |

Marcel Rhodes
Gallente Raptus Regaliter Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 17:36:00 -
[91]
Y'know, I think everything's been said, but still, Fried, dude: you rule. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.02 18:14:00 -
[92]
Originally by: 12oz Jesus And what have you built lately, Scatim?
I've just built 100,000 devastator cruise missiles in JV1V. I suspect that they'll last longer than the remainder of BRUCE's sovereignty-claiming towers in Fountain. |

Satt One
Planetary Exploration
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Posted - 2008.05.02 18:21:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Nekumi It's a lot more like one of those weird cults where the leader and his inner circle run off with all the money and the cultists are so brainwashed/stupid they still laud them as the best thing ever. You guys really need to take your heads out of your behinds. This level of delusion is dangerous even if it is just a game.
No, cant be right... is this a little goonie telling us this? I cant breathe - please stop being so funny! Titan fund anyone? |

Felysta Sandorn
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.02 18:26:00 -
[94]
Originally by: ardik Hard times are ahead. I am not the one to lead you through it. The road, though, is clear, and the direction will be given. Know your Reps still watch out for you, and that the new Executor will have all the charisma, character, and cleverness you have come to know. I fully expect that BRUCE will come to secure all of Fountain in due time, and PL - like 9th Fleet, like Huzzah, like ExM, like OSS, all of whom seemed insurmountable foes once - will be ground under the heel of the BRUCEian behemoth, and become yet another foe smashed under BRUCE's might. New commanders will rise; new leaders will point the way. New fleets will be generated, and new ideas followed. Greatness still stands on the horizon for BRUCE. I have no doubt that the new leader, so named, will address you all in a day or two.
This made me laugh! You should remember that alliances like EXM and HUZZAH were never formed to hold space, they were formed to PvP in small gang warfare! I think all I really need to do here is point out the MHC-R3 battle where 50 EXM stood against 300 BRUCE, losing 80 ships (yes, we had spares), and killing over 400 (obviously you did too). Insurmountable? Hardly... Underdogs? Yes.
I had an awesome time in EXM, some great people in there, and I'd love to fly with them again some time! Bruce were fun to fight as well, we had some good times, and I hope this isn't the end of not only a great alliance, but a great community of EVE pilots! Good luck to the BRUCES! |

Napo Cloud
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Posted - 2008.05.02 19:30:00 -
[95]
To Fried, respect, to you, to FOOM, to your achievements.
o7
LONG LIVE THE BRUCES! o/ |

Zeitgueist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.02 20:17:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Satt One No, cant be right... is this a little goonie telling us this? I cant breathe - please stop being so funny! Titan fund anyone?
Yes we still revere and worship Remedial like a god. |

Mendolorian Girl
Caldari The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 21:04:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Mendolorian Girl on 02/05/2008 21:04:44
Originally by: Nekumi It's a lot more like one of those weird cults where the leader and his inner circle run off with all the money and the cultists are so brainwashed/stupid they still laud them as the best thing ever. You guys really need to take your heads out of your behinds. This level of delusion is dangerous even if it is just a game.
Wierd Cult.. yes I can see how it could be perceived like that. It's not though, it's all about this |

AonChilo
Madison Industrial Co. Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.02 23:11:00 -
[98]
Fried, thanks for all your great work m8, 07 And best of luck to You and the rest of FOOM in your next Eve endeavor. I will miss listening to that clock of yours during pvp ops Fly safe now o/
-Aon
P.S. Just ignore all the $%!+ posts on here, some ppl take this game way to seriously.  |

Moloc's
Gallente The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.03 02:30:00 -
[99]
Dang cant you people at least be a little nice for once? I thought we were chill brosefs? Whats with all the hate? That we wouldnt give away free moons to PL? Come on...its our space for christs sake! And we want to fight for it. Kick our butts, do your thing. We wont give it back just because your keep smacking us in forums. Even though your "metagaming stuff" brings the ability to have fun to the limit.
Anyways, Friedrick, you have no idea who I am. I am just a lowly grunt that has spent my period in BRUCE in the backyard, doing my thing. But still, here is a voice from the bottom;
Your leadershipskills far surpass all that I have seen anywhwere. RL or not. You should run a large company or enter politics. Every single move you have made since my corp joined BRUCE, has been well thought out, and well executed. My hat off to your abilities to plan ahead, administer, and last but not the least, your extremely well articulated and well thought out posts both on caod, shc, and in our internal forums.
I fully understand that you have finally run ut out engergy, and need to let got now. Good luck! |

Shyon Rhen
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Posted - 2008.05.03 08:14:00 -
[100]
so, i suppose everyone has already realized the total illegality of hacking a secure database right? |

sexygheyman
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Posted - 2008.05.03 08:26:00 -
[101]
I dont really blame Fried if the ship is sinking best to get off. Maybe he can start another alliance that sucks at everything. |

Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.05.03 08:51:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Mendolorian Girl Edited by: Mendolorian Girl on 02/05/2008 21:04:44
Originally by: Nekumi It's a lot more like one of those weird cults where the leader and his inner circle run off with all the money and the cultists are so brainwashed/stupid they still laud them as the best thing ever. You guys really need to take your heads out of your behinds. This level of delusion is dangerous even if it is just a game.
Wierd Cult.. yes I can see how it could be perceived like that. It's not though, it's all about this
More like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E |

WishBlade
Caldari Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.03 09:26:00 -
[103]
+1 to "I told you so" back in U4 |

Joe Elliot
Stabho's
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Posted - 2008.05.03 10:10:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Moloc's Your leadershipskills far surpass all that I have seen anywhwere. RL or not.
- Lol |

Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.03 11:04:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Shyon Rhen so, i suppose everyone has already realized the total illegality of hacking a secure database right?
Look at how dumb you are |

Blagozahath
The Singularity Project Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.03 14:58:00 -
[106]
It hurts, hearing that our beloved executor and his corp is leaving us.
Frid, you and FOOM did a great job for BRUCE and your name shall be engraved in BRUCE's history for ever! We'll be missing you a lot! I wish you all GL in your future plans and i truly hope we'll meet on the battlefield as friends not foes! |

Natas Dog
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.03 15:48:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Natas Dog on 03/05/2008 15:50:02
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Shyon Rhen so, i suppose everyone has already realized the total illegality of hacking a secure database right?
Look at how dumb you are
Quiet man, the men in black are going to come and take us away for stealing posts on their internet forum. Finland might not have wanted to touch this case with a 10 foot pole, but now we've got the FBI invovled! Surely the monetary and psychological damages this hacking has caused will result in a class action lawsuit.
Edit: Also, MY SCEPTRE! |

Necro EvilZombie
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.04 06:10:00 -
[108]
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Alexis Vorvuden
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.04 12:39:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Moloc's Dang cant you people at least be a little nice for once? I thought we were chill brosefs? Whats with all the hate? That we wouldnt give away free moons to PL? Come on...its our space for christs sake! And we want to fight for it. Kick our butts, do your thing. We wont give it back just because your keep smacking us in forums. Even though your "metagaming stuff" brings the ability to have fun to the limit.
Anyways, Friedrick, you have no idea who I am. I am just a lowly grunt that has spent my period in BRUCE in the backyard, doing my thing. But still, here is a voice from the bottom;
Your leadershipskills far surpass all that I have seen anywhwere. RL or not. You should run a large company or enter politics. Every single move you have made since my corp joined BRUCE, has been well thought out, and well executed. My hat off to your abilities to plan ahead, administer, and last but not the least, your extremely well articulated and well thought out posts both on caod, shc, and in our internal forums.
I fully understand that you have finally run ut out engergy, and need to let got now. Good luck!
I'm impressed equally with freids ability to convince BRUCE that it's not treachery to abandon the alliance he helped create at a time when the wolves are at the door, and cherry pick members from other corps at the same time.
Set him and his whole stinking corp to red now. |

Zell Shadowcast
The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.04 19:29:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Friedrick Psitalon Woot! First in a thread about ME!
...oh bugger. No I'm not. Oh well.
Does having a thread about me officially make me l33t or famous or something? 
In all seriousness:
I'll confirm everything in the OP. It's true, and I have no shame in it. I'm immensely proud of where BRUCE has gone - from a noob anti-pirate corp in Aeschee, growing up as a major power in Syndicate, and then controlling the lion's share of Fountain. Say what you like about how we got everywhere we did - we did it. Us, an alliance founded and run by people who've been playing for two years. (Truth - check Friedrick's start date.)
I'm personally tired and worn out. Running an alliance for two years does that to you. My successor will step up, and they'll accomplish great things, and they'll move on. BRUCE is a cult of ideology, but there's a lot more to it than that. They'll be fine when FOOM leaves - and I'm sure they'll be here to be smacked on by you folks for a long time to come, as you daily talk about how they're falling apart and noobs and not going to make it and so on....
BRUCE made it this long. They'll make it quite awhile longer. 
LONG LIVE THE BRUCES! o/
Directors Forums ITT
Quote: Originally Posted by Friedrich Psitalon
Guys, I'm going to discuss this behind a very closed door, and do so very quietly.
I'm worried. Very worried.
1. The FCs are in a state of almost complete collapse. We have, at most, three active ones right now. That's across all time zones. The rest are scattered hell-for-leather.
2. Participation is starting to dip; only starting, but check how many kills we have in our own space in the past 48 hours. It's really low.
3. The leadership body in BRUCE is far too bloated. Our decision-making ability is through the floor. I'm not convinced it can be corrected without losing multiple corps.
4. Tri has almost certainly realized how fat and rotten we are at the moment. I'd be surprised if they didn't come for us.
I think BRUCE is in very real danger of getting hammered out of Fountain.
Here's what I need from you:
I need this corp tightened up; rebuilding morale at the corp level. Run corp ops - I don't give a damn if you're not an FC or not combat-trained. You'll learn. Start conversations in corp chat. Invite people to hang out in the Vent channel.
If you want a job, it's this: be proactive. Start building that sense of FOOM pride. BRUCE is going to take a pretty nasty hit in the near future, one way or another - if the corp, or the alliance, is to survive, we're going to need proactive work done. Even if BRUCE falls apart, it'd be nice to have something to fall back on.
Please discuss concrete, real, immediate solutions.
Uh oh, problems in the alliance? Multiple director level whines blaming the general members or other BRUCE?
Quote: Originally Posted by Friedrich Psitalon People We Will Be Inviting To Join Us
Mendalorian Girl - Fried approaches Zillaby Trypp - Fried approaches? Who knows best? Aragorn Angelus - who knows best? Talo Momoe - Fried approaches Rodney Caston - Fried approaches Kithaca - who knows best?
....others? Add 'em!
Better grab all the best pilots we can when we leave. Why? Becausseee...
Quote: Moving
Be greedy. First stuff to move out is our own personal goods. We will be stressing to much about them til they are out, so get them out first. Try to sell what you reasonably can in the next 3 days, after that, it will be a fire sale atmosphere, as that is when I predict cascade failure starts.
When we start pulling out and trying to sell all of our stuff there may be a failure cascade.
I mean all the constant posts about how you are just tired and didn't do BRUCE justice is kind of countered by all your "secret" posts on your own forums about how you don't think the alliance can defend its space and constantly blame the FCs or command staff, right before cutting and running while trying to cherry pick the best people. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.04 23:52:00 -
[111]
Ragequitting over your carrier loss and stealing everything that isn't nailed down on your way out is the sign of truly great leadership, c/d? |

Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.05 00:31:00 -
[112]
Quote: You should run a large company or enter politics.
After post 110 this becomes so very true! |

Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.05.05 00:53:00 -
[113]
FYI if you guys want to post such potentially damaging things you really ought to do so via a medium that is not known to your enemies (Ie. via e-mail or something) |

Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.05 03:21:00 -
[114]
I could crow on about living in space that our war vs bob helped you seize then turning your back on us while you try to negotiate a peaceful coexistence with that very entity you "conquered" space from but that would be poor form wouldn't it?
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.05.05 05:57:00 -
[115]
Hello Friedrick,
since the CIS has little interest at this time in Fountain, I am free to say:
Good Job with BRUCE, and good luck in the future.
Best regards, VV
EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki |

Princess Kyky
Caldari I G N O T U S
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Posted - 2008.05.05 07:22:00 -
[116]
Originally by: cirus670 Foom is in no way done with BRUCE. We are gonna take a break and then do some payback to those who were non too kind in the past.
does that mean your gonna go after EXM again? ------
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Skjorta
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Posted - 2008.05.08 20:55:00 -
[117]
So who is going to be the one to push bruce out of fountain?
I'm sure a few groups are considering it.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.08 21:02:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Vile rat I could crow on about living in space that our war vs bob helped you seize then turning your back on us while you try to negotiate a peaceful coexistence with that very entity you "conquered" space from but that would be poor form wouldn't it?
It's OK, Vile Rat, they turned down our first offer, we didn't make a second.
I'm not sure which ranks highest on the "wupsie" scale. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Mara Devortex
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Posted - 2008.05.09 11:59:00 -
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Goons you give yourselves too much credit..Bruce took fountain purely on their own..and as far as your FAILED war with BoB..why would Bruce put its neck out for a Coalition best known for its treachery and backstabbing.? EPIC FAIL |

Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Devortex Goons you give yourselves too much credit..Bruce took fountain purely on their own..and as far as your FAILED war with BoB..why would Bruce put its neck out for a Coalition best known for its treachery and backstabbing.? EPIC FAIL
No, you're right. BRUCE took Fountain all by itself, Morsus Mihi and all those other alliances didn't help, we're just experiencing a collective hallucination. |

Alty McAltypants
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces
Originally by: Mara Devortex Goons you give yourselves too much credit..Bruce took fountain purely on their own..and as far as your FAILED war with BoB..why would Bruce put its neck out for a Coalition best known for its treachery and backstabbing.? EPIC FAIL
No, you're right. BRUCE took Fountain all by itself, Morsus Mihi and all those other alliances didn't help, we're just experiencing a collective hallucination.
Your opinion matters about as much as me.
ps. poke your corpmates to post those faction bs losses last night.
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Dianeces
Minmatar The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dianeces on 09/05/2008 12:22:15
Originally by: Alty McAltypants
ps. poke your corpmates to post those faction bs losses last night.
We only lost one, and it's posted.
Fakeedit: Thanks for playing.
Realedit: You might want to turn on your corp ticker. Just sayin'.
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Mara Devortex
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Posted - 2008.05.09 12:24:00 -
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Morsus was one of the few Coalition Alliances to remain Blue with Bruce..why because they acted honorably..At the frst hint of failure the Goons immediately began whining about Bruce..Face the Truth Goons you had nothing to do with Bruces successes in fountain accept to provide a minor and temporary distraction and now you insist on going to any lengths to make Bruce pay for your Epic failure,
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.09 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Devortex Morsus was one of the few Coalition Alliances to remain Blue with Bruce..why because they acted honorably..At the frst hint of failure the Goons immediately began whining about Bruce..Face the Truth Goons you had nothing to do with Bruces successes in fountain accept to provide a minor and temporary distraction and now you insist on going to any lengths to make Bruce pay for your Epic failure,
Because getting the easily distracted Goonies annoyed at you and potentially causing them to shift from SMASH to you is really a good idea.
BRUCE, you should probably reign this one in before she says something that you'll end up regretting. -- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Manas
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.09 15:45:00 -
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MD is almost certainly not a BRUCE alt.
"You become what you pretend to be." TGRAD info and BRUCE info
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Idaeus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.09 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Because getting the easily distracted Goonies annoyed at you and potentially causing them to shift from SMASH to you is really a good idea.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
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