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thoraxius demioses
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Posted - 2008.05.02 08:29:00 -
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well what i'm missing in eve is a nice cloak and dagger combat ship.. that can run covert ops cloak , and have probe scan time bonus. something of a nice covert cloak and dagger attack ship.(hunter killer)
since the only ships that use covert ops cloak are hardly on the damage dealing ladder. and the black ops cant use covert ops cloak. nor any stealth bomber.
altho these ships that currently can use em are all highly based for electronic warfare like webber ecm damps.
what i'm looking for in a ship is basicly a mix of the recon covert ops cloak ability and the damage output of a hac. T3 thorax anyone?
hacs are nice ships as they are, but on there own there hardly unbeatable you dont go about chasing and killing decent battleships on your own with em. close range hacs like the deimos would hit structure by the time it got its weapons in range.
adding a covert ops cloak to such close range blaster ships might sound silly.. and alot of players would whine probaly. but what about a new type of ship for it. Cloak and dagger class.
skills needed for it would include HAC lvl 5 and Recon lvl 5. bonuses depending on race, and ship role.
gallente version would be something like.
Chassis : thorax
6 high slots : 5 turret slots , 1 utility
3 medium slots
6 low slots
Dronebay: 50m3
Gallente Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage and 5% less penalty to max capacitor capacity for Microwarpdrive usage per level
Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret falloff and 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage per level
Recon Ships Skill Bonus:-96% to -100% reduction in Cloaking Device CPU use per level and 10% reduction to duration/activation time of modules requiring Astrometrics per level.
this sorta ship would be able to pick out its own fights,(like probing down wartargets) but it aint an unstoppable ship. i'm not talking about upping the armor resistances and HP or mess about with extra damage.so this sorta ship stil wouldn't be able to handle more then a deimos.
plus having recon skill5 and HAc skil 5 will ensure its balance cause not everyone will go through such efforts. and every race would have different recon bonusses, say caldari would have ecm. and prober bonus. amar would have nos range and probe bonus. minnie webber bonusses next to probing.
this sorta ship would really be for the cruiser specced poeple like myself.
thanks for your time reading this post. and hope you consider such a ship. |
Doc Iridium
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.05.02 08:39:00 -
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 Originally by: thoraxius demioses
well what i'm missing in eve is a nice cloak and dagger combat ship.. that can run covert ops cloak , and have probe scan time bonus. something of a nice covert cloak and dagger attack ship.(hunter killer)
since the only ships that use covert ops cloak are hardly on the damage dealing ladder. and the black ops cant use covert ops cloak. nor any stealth bomber.
altho these ships that currently can use em are all highly based for electronic warfare like webber ecm damps.
what i'm looking for in a ship is basicly a mix of the recon covert ops cloak ability and the damage output of a hac. T3 thorax anyone?
hacs are nice ships as they are, but on there own there hardly unbeatable you dont go about chasing and killing decent battleships on your own with em. close range hacs like the deimos would hit structure by the time it got its weapons in range.
adding a covert ops cloak to such close range blaster ships might sound silly.. and alot of players would whine probaly. but what about a new type of ship for it. Cloak and dagger class.
skills needed for it would include HAC lvl 5 and Recon lvl 5. bonuses depending on race, and ship role.
gallente version would be something like.
Chassis : thorax
6 high slots : 5 turret slots , 1 utility
3 medium slots
6 low slots
Dronebay: 50m3
Gallente Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage and 5% less penalty to max capacitor capacity for Microwarpdrive usage per level
Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret falloff and 5% bonus to Medium Hybrid Turret damage per level
Recon Ships Skill Bonus:-96% to -100% reduction in Cloaking Device CPU use per level and 10% reduction to duration/activation time of modules requiring Astrometrics per level.
this sorta ship would be able to pick out its own fights,(like probing down wartargets) but it aint an unstoppable ship. i'm not talking about upping the armor resistances and HP or mess about with extra damage.so this sorta ship stil wouldn't be able to handle more then a deimos.
plus having recon skill5 and HAc skil 5 will ensure its balance cause not everyone will go through such efforts. and every race would have different recon bonusses, say caldari would have ecm. and prober bonus. amar would have nos range and probe bonus. minnie webber bonusses next to probing.
this sorta ship would really be for the cruiser specced poeple like myself.
thanks for your time reading this post. and hope you consider such a ship.
If this ship can scan down stealthed ships, or at least have a chance to detect and chase them around a little bit, then I'd be with you 100%.
Cloaking is the bane of actual fun small group PVP at this time. Adding yet another ship that can warp cloaked, have very good DPS, and simply disappear and go afk for 23 hours is the last thing I'd like to see - unless it can find cloaked ships  |
piloot idioot
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Posted - 2008.05.02 08:45:00 -
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wasn't that ability being toalked about during the last tournament of being able to scan down cloaked ships. but yeah that would have to come with it :)
be like todays submarine hunter/killers :p |
Captator
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.05.02 10:51:00 -
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could use this to give the tier 2 t2 BCs a role |
SkyLordUK
Amarr
Redemption EnterpriseS
DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.05.02 10:54:00 -
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i think seekers would be a good name for this ship class?
with the ONLY ship to detect cloaked ships i reckon damage would be slightly nerfed to to balance the 'i see you even thou your cloaked' thingy or a module that takes a high slot to recalabrate your sensors to detect cloaked ships?
just my 2isk
(flame if u wish) |
Cairn Metalhand
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.02 11:21:00 -
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So basically you want a cruiser stealth bomber with a reacon cloak.
I can see this being extremly overpowered in roaming gangs or spider tanking gangs.
Imagine a 20 man fleet where every ship have over 500-600 dps and have the ability to warp cloaked/instantly cloak-uncloak and most likely be nanoned to hell and back.
Throw 2-3 force reacons in the mix and you have a force that would be impossible to track/see until they attacked and there would be no way to counter them other then getting a fleet of neut bs's with drones to uncloak them.
If implemented they would need to have a huge drawback, like less EHP then t1 cruisers or really bad speed/agility, otherwise they would just end up as they new FOTM until nerfed again.
Imo, not signed, to much risk of inbalance.
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Captator
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.05.02 11:21:00 -
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don't want to to debuff them too far, it is illogical for an improved ship to be worse, and all the ways so far of debuffing ships are really tiresome.
take harbinger as example, give it covops cloak, give it highslot cloak detection device thingy, drop a turret from it (so 6 turrets 8 highs), drop the warefare links bonus for the role bonus of the cloak detector.
bonuses to cap use, damage (the t1 hull bonuses), then cpu of covops cloak use, and then cycle time of cloak detector |
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