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Dawson
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Posted - 2004.04.27 19:57:00 -
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C4 Alliance: the Henchmen of the Curse Alliance, it has both excellent fighters and inadequate auxiliaries. The Notable members of the C4 Alliance are Omega Corp, Ota Corp, and Black Omega Security. C4 has some excellent leaders in its battle squadrons and navies, but is severely lacking in high command. At war with stain over a dead issue and a retired player, OC burned their bridges and refuse to throw in the towel. Their leader remains stubborn and inefficient, unknowingly providing the Stain Alliances with vital intelligence on his strengths, members, and strategies. This, above any other is the weakness of the C4 Alliance.
I feel you have missed out BSC and TTI both massive industrial mega corps of the game. Proven themselfs in combat also since joining C4. Take BSC for example who supplied the old NVA fleet with a load of ships. These are not industrial corps you want to be ignoring. Infact in the old top 10 combat/industrial etc threads both of these corps were often mention in the top spots. Now to have both these corps in C4 is quite an achivment, and you seem to of completly ignored them.
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Durandal
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dawson
I feel you have missed out BSC and TTI both massive industrial mega corps of the game. Proven themselfs in combat also since joining C4. Take BSC for example who supplied the old NVA fleet with a load of ships. These are not industrial corps you want to be ignoring. Infact in the old top 10 combat/industrial etc threads both of these corps were often mention in the top spots. Now to have both these corps in C4 is quite an achivment, and you seem to of completly ignored them.
Well to be fair, and as has been pointed out, this is Bared's opinion. Maybe he doesn't consider BSC and TTi to be one of the notable members of C4 - Omega, Ota and Black Omega should perhaps take it as a complement 
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni
LIES.
I NEVER get beat.
correct me if I'm wrong, but a carebear, in a black bird, actually caugth you, webbed you, and destroyed your ship?
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Durandal
Originally by: Dawson
I feel you have missed out BSC and TTI both massive industrial mega corps of the game. Proven themselfs in combat also since joining C4. Take BSC for example who supplied the old NVA fleet with a load of ships. These are not industrial corps you want to be ignoring. Infact in the old top 10 combat/industrial etc threads both of these corps were often mention in the top spots. Now to have both these corps in C4 is quite an achivment, and you seem to of completly ignored them.
Well to be fair, and as has been pointed out, this is Bared's opinion. Maybe he doesn't consider BSC and TTi to be one of the notable members of C4 - Omega, Ota and Black Omega should perhaps take it as a complement
Yep, its the same reason I dont call MHI, SWI, Setenta, ES or Solorwind major deciding factors in stain. Collective, Tyrell, and MASS are the hero's of the day, they win battles, we just add some fire power. TTI and BSC aren't devoted combat corps. Without the Omegas or Ota, I have my doubts as to whether orr not you would fare so well in battle.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.04.27 21:53:00 -
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If I could get a Polaris to change the Title of the Topic to say "The Great War of Alliances: Analyses and Opinions" since my unbiased view is still pretty biased against a member of a certain faction.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.04.27 21:53:00 -
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again, LIES.
But really, ya, that mining carebear kenshin caught my uber vigil of scrambling death with a web... 
poor CBD kei...
And I have lost like 25 frigs and 2 blackbirds... well, Vina has 
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Viajero Jack
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Posted - 2004.04.27 21:56:00 -
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good job Bared, i like your post :)
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kayosoni on 27/04/2004 22:02:26
Yes, Bared bel'med0lt does indeed make interesting posts.
ESP when having private convos in-game talking about our favorite type of nakid people.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:47:00 -
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Kayo, I stand by my short well proportioned red-headed or brunette woen with gorgeous vuluptious bottoms. Cat girls are one thing I think even my pail skinned scrawny hunched over self could never score with in a million years... that or there are some really kinky geneticist who can program cat ears and long fluffy tail onto human chromosomes.
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nails
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:48:00 -
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The only thing I'm reading from Bared's posts is allot of personal frustration with C4. I saw this kinda thing a bit more back when everyone was trying to figure out what exactly C4 was. Your words suggest that SA is this unstoppable tiger and C4 is a bunch of moquitos taking little bites. In actuality SA would be more like that chihuahua from the taco bell commercials, and C4 controls that chalupa SA will never get to taste.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:49:00 -
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*sigh* yet another post by an SA member trying to compare the alliances and not be biased.....well CA is not losing any of its good PvPers and as far as i know the reason F-E has been less active is because it was a very locked down corp meaning only directors got access to anything slightly importaint. Liniage 2 came out and most of the directors left so it was very hard for them to get stuff they needed. Then from what i understand a director logged on and wiped the hangers out. (If i am off base on any of that guys please correct me, i do not know much specifics) But anyway, most of the F-E guys that are still active in Eve have united under a new banner so all is good. As for the C4 comments, i have flown with them and they are a great bunch of guys. Always my pleasure.
P.S. How exactly have you pushed CA back?
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Pramas
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Pramas on 28/04/2004 07:20:15
nm ill contact the guy in question in game and sort somthing out that way
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:59:00 -
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Read the post, biased and mostly crap is all i can say, please before remove your head from your behind b4 posting in future.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.04.27 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: nails
The only thing I'm reading from Bared's posts is allot of personal frustration with C4. I saw this kinda thing a bit more back when everyone was trying to figure out what exactly C4 was. Your words suggest that SA is this unstoppable tiger and C4 is a bunch of moquitos taking little bites. In actuality SA would be more like that chihuahua from the taco bell commercials, and C4 controls that chalupa SA will never get to taste.
Actually, Nails, while you were winning, I begrudgingly admitted it. Can you do the same?
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nails
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Posted - 2004.04.28 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Actually, Nails, while you were winning, I begrudgingly admitted it. Can you do the same?
The only thing I have to admit, is that I didn't buy enough beer for this evening.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2004.04.28 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Miso
Commenting on alliances on the forums is a bit like bending over, dropping your trousers, pointing to your bottom and saying "insert your boot here".
as i hate to post under these sort of topics, must agree with Miso, it`s asking for flames 
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Dawson
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Posted - 2004.04.28 03:41:00 -
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Man i spilt beer all over my keyboard, hope its still working in the morning, not to mention the can of beer that got wasted.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2004.04.28 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Primer Xenius on 28/04/2004 05:42:50
I read two things here that *****ed me up 
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William Hung Posted - 2004.04.27 14:23:00 - Quote
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She bang! She bang
Don't know why but reading that long post and then suddenly getting the image of Mr Hung in my head singing his tune, *****ed me up.
But this still tops it...
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M0o are not pirates. M0o do not fight for profit, m0o does not kill for loot. M0o is more akin to a marauding raiding force, traveling from location to location, taking anything not nailed down and not bearing their tribal images.
What a load of horse****  One example, techell stations, 1 billion isk. Another, ransoming ships to eject for ISK. They are self proclaimed pirates. Please, statements like that kill your post.
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and Evolution, one of the most potent anti pirate corps in the game.
Anti pirate corp?! Fact is evolution shoot whoever they like regardless of whether its a neutral unkown trader or some peaceful alliance ship and they work closely with moo (which IS a pirate group). At best they are not an anti pirate corp, at worst they are pirates just like moo.
I think a good indicator of a pirate group is the length of their "Disliked By" list. Moo and evolution are in no alliance, yet their grief list is VERY long.
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Maiwenn LeBesc0
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Posted - 2004.04.28 06:37:00 -
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Evol aren't anti-pirate.
I guess we might have earned that reputation initially because our earlier retail wars were against M3G4 and then Sinister, but I figure we've fought enough different people since then to throw that idea out the window.
Anyway, I quite enjoyed reading your post, even though a lot of it seemed a bit.. well.. wrong. A good bit of soapie drama to entertain for five mins, though.
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Posted - 2004.04.28 06:38:00 -
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Less depressive than Eastenders but about as accurate as Brookie
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deathbyfire
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Posted - 2004.04.28 06:39:00 -
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Edited by: deathbyfire on 28/04/2004 08:35:10
Edited by: deathbyfire on 28/04/2004 06:58:16
Edited by: deathbyfire on 28/04/2004 06:55:54
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
i've quit thinking in terms of kills. I've beguyn thinking of it in terms of activity and location of battle. CA is being pressed back for the time being, and C4 has stopped using bships. as i said, i can not say they dont have them, there is areason SA usually doesn't brag about kills, we just have no way of confirming them. Fighting C4 is still like fighting roaches without bug spray though. You can swat one, the rest will hide: but the moment the lights go out, they swarm.
accualy you need to shut up adn exit the stations more there is one fleet in C4 that rarely uses battleships adn today we had 2 in it we in cruseris adn frigs with 2 bs took on a fleet designed to kill us with 3 scorps 2 crusiers adn a ****load of frigs/intercepters.
we lost one rupture adn a frigate adn killed 3 scorps 2 ruptures adn a intercepter adn we still fight in battleships it is just more gratifying to kill a fleet of BS with crusiers adn frigates. if you ever left the station and fought with us you would know that. every single time i see you in local you are docked you should see us fight before you say how we fight. adn yes TTI has a lot of non combat players but we also have some combat players that are really good (we have one of teh most triggar happy CEOs in the game) also Stronghold left SA adn joined C4 becaseu you gusy didn't knwo how to fight(please Skyknight or other Stronghold member correct me if i am wrong) adn i have to say they are some of teh best pvpers i have seen
adn also FA is not oraganized yes tehy have big fleets but they are not that cordinated. i was in FA adn one indever we were chasing 4 pirates out of teh region with 25+ battleships adn we only got them after ORE(NORAD)helped by seting us a blockade adn tehn we onyl killed one fo them so don't say they are good pvpers they have a few good players that know how to fight but taht is aobut it they got ride of most of there good ones
edit: fixxed realy bad gammar errors adn typors
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Posted - 2004.04.28 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: deathbyfire
Edited by: deathbyfire on 28/04/2004 06:58:16
Edited by: deathbyfire on 28/04/2004 06:55:54
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
i've quit thinking in terms of kills. I've beguyn thinking of it in terms of activity and location of battle. CA is being pressed back for the time being, and C4 has stopped using bships. as i said, i can not say they dont have them, there is areason SA usually doesn't brag about kills, we just have no way of confirming them. Fighting C4 is still like fighting roaches without bug spray though. You can swat one, the rest will hide: but the moment the lights go out, they swarm.
accualy you need to shut up adn exit the stations more there is one fleet in C4 that rarely uses battleships adn today we had 2 in it we in cruseris adn frigs with 2 bs took on a fleet designed to kill us with 3 scorps 2 crusiers adn a ****load of frigs/intercepters.
we lost one rupture adn a frigate adn killed 3 scorps 2 ruptures adn a intercepter adn we still fight in battleships it is just more gratifying to kill a fleet of BS with crusiers adn frigates. if you ever left the station and fought with us you would know that. every single time i see you in local you are docked you should see us fight before you say how we fight. adn yes TTI has a lot of non combat players but we also have some combat players that are really good (we have one of teh most triggar happy CEOs in the game) also Stronghold left SA adn joined C4 becaseu you gusy didn't knwo how to fight(please Skyknight or other Stronghold member correct me if i am wrong) adn i have to say they are some of teh best pvp'er i am seen
adn also FA is not oraganized yes tehy have big fleets but they are not that cordinated. i was in FA adn one indever we were chasing 4 pirates out of teh region with 25+ battleships adn we only got them after ORE(NORAD)helped by seting us a blockade adn tehn we onyl killed one fo them so don't say they are good pvpers they have a few good players that know how to fight but taht is aobut it they got ride of most of there good ones
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Durandal
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Posted - 2004.04.28 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: Durandal on 28/04/2004 10:16:31
Originally by: deathbyfire
Edited by: deathbyfire on 28/04/2004 08:35:10
Edited by: deathbyfire on 28/04/2004 06:58:16
Edited by: deathbyfire on 28/04/2004 06:55:54
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
i've quit thinking in terms of kills. I've beguyn thinking of it in terms of activity and location of battle. CA is being pressed back for the time being, and C4 has stopped using bships. as i said, i can not say they dont have them, there is areason SA usually doesn't brag about kills, we just have no way of confirming them. Fighting C4 is still like fighting roaches without bug spray though. You can swat one, the rest will hide: but the moment the lights go out, they swarm.
accualy you need to shut up adn exit the stations more there is one fleet in C4 that rarely uses battleships adn today we had 2 in it we in cruseris adn frigs with 2 bs took on a fleet designed to kill us with 3 scorps 2 crusiers adn a ****load of frigs/intercepters.
we lost one rupture adn a frigate adn killed 3 scorps 2 ruptures adn a intercepter adn we still fight in battleships it is just more gratifying to kill a fleet of BS with crusiers adn frigates. if you ever left the station and fought with us you would know that. every single time i see you in local you are docked you should see us fight before you say how we fight. adn yes TTI has a lot of non combat players but we also have some combat players that are really good (we have one of teh most triggar happy CEOs in the game) also Stronghold left SA adn joined C4 becaseu you gusy didn't knwo how to fight(please Skyknight or other Stronghold member correct me if i am wrong) adn i have to say they are some of teh best pvpers i have seen
adn also FA is not oraganized yes tehy have big fleets but they are not that cordinated. i was in FA adn one indever we were chasing 4 pirates out of teh region with 25+ battleships adn we only got them after ORE(NORAD)helped by seting us a blockade adn tehn we onyl killed one fo them so don't say they are good pvpers they have a few good players that know how to fight but taht is aobut it they got ride of most of there good ones
edit: fixxed realy bad gammar errors adn typors
And this one time in band camp.....this reads like he was on ecstasy when he wrote this - and thats after 3 edits. I think its somewhat unfair to accuse Bared of remaining docked, because there is no way anyone loses that many ships while in the station, lol. And although I am sure that Stronghold can speak for themselves I don't think that they left because 'us guys' didn't know how to fight (although tbh I am not sure who 'you guys' are).
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Tansien
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Posted - 2004.04.28 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: Tansien on 28/04/2004 11:02:15
I'm not really feeling like reading all of the other posts in this thread, but the 2 firsts posts are a load of crap, dont try to comment on alliances you only have fought against like you are a member of them.
And on the point of SA beeing the most well organized alliance? no way... That must go to the "NFA".
EDIT: After reading some more, this is the kind of bull**** i hate most about SA.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.04.28 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 28/04/2004 11:04:23
Problem is that most people seem to rate alliances by the megacorps in it. When CA started there were no megacorps in it. And it was definitely smaller than SA. The guy who started the thread also forgets to mention that it was SA and everyone else and their mother who attacked first.
In any case, CA's strength has been, and always will be, its ability to work across corporate lines very efficiently.
In addition, CA have not been pushed back. Some of us just come down to SA space less and less because every time we did, SA simply refused to undock. Getting a fight is like pulling teeth.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.04.28 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin
Edited by: Saladin on 28/04/2004 11:04:23
Problem is that most people seem to rate alliances by the megacorps in it. When CA started there were no megacorps in it. And it was definitely smaller than SA. The guy who started the thread also forgets to mention that it was SA and everyone else and their mother who attacked first.
In any case, CA's strength has been, and always will be, its ability to work across corporate lines very efficiently.
In addition, CA have not been pushed back. Some of us just come down to SA space less and less because every time we did, SA simply refused to undock. Getting a fight is like pulling teeth.
"...forgets to mention that it was SA and everyone else and their mother who attacked first."
Does anyone in CA really want me to explain how this all started ONCE AGAIN
WE were attacking SINISTER and RED CORSAIRS. THEN CA formed, and attacked us.
"because every time we did, SA simply refused to undock."
Sorry Saladin. We have jumped in to attack when outnumbered. We have warped in to attack when outnumbered. But people refuse to attack you when you blob 60 players at one place.
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