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Janus Cohen
Fundamental Armorments and Munitions
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Posted - 2008.05.03 19:06:00 -
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So people still want to abuse the wardec system eh? Well folks CCP is eventually going to nerf wars out of the game. Let keep up the corp hop exploits lets keep up the whining on the forums. lets keep up the 4 corp mutual strike out. Lets keep wardecing newb corps and syaing that they hve no rights to a corp. Lets keep posting no onstructive ideas to reform the wardec system, and I am certain you will get what you dont want. Only been a coupkle of days and another post has been madeabout the same topic. So I say lets keep it up and add to the madness.
Lets have newb industry corps create a second account of an alt corp and sit outside the station in a pod so the wardec corp can just pod the alts all day.
Lets have the less than 10 man wardec corp declare war on multiple corps so they can disrupt their operation
Lets fill the forums with those tears, and ridcule CCP about how they wont been the game to your play style.
Lets strikeout more merc and wardec corps by using the 3 war only fix that CCP has place on the system. (it will give the wardec corp a true exploit to complain about)
Lets be creative and find more ways to complicate the wardec system.
Everybody complaining about will eventually get something done so I say keep it up. Lets make it as messy as we can. We all know that we really want Faction/Empire Total war and Empire Space to become 0.0 sec space./ sarcasm
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Havohej
Minmatar The Defias Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.05.03 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Janus Cohen Lets keep posting no onstructive ideas
Like this one. 
Seriously, though, A LOT of constructive ideas were posted in the previous threads. Unfortunately, crybears came in trolling and trying to derail it with their "I can't adapt without abusing a game mechanic that's broken, so I should just be allowed to - don't fix it!!!" crap and unfortunately seem to have buried a lot of it.
Maybe the devs will actually read through, but to be honest, probably not. There are too many other threads that crybears haven't made as much of a mess of (most of them crybear suggestions to begin with). Hopefully the 8-page one will stand out, though, and they'll dig through it anyway. |

Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:12:00 -
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You realize that you're going to earn about a thousand wardecs for this post, right?  |

Demitria Fernir
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:28:00 -
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8/10, nice one
also agreed, when something is wrong, keep it up until it's fixed or eventually brokes everything else |

Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:35:00 -
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Attention Janus Cohen: in your corp name I noticed that the word typically spelled "armaments" is spelled "armorments". I disapprove of this. You can possibly expect a war dec from SPEND Corp shortly. |

Janus Cohen
Fundamental Armorments and Munitions
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Attention Janus Cohen: in your corp name I noticed that the word typically spelled "armaments" is spelled "armorments". I disapprove of this. You can possibly expect a war dec from SPEND Corp shortly.
No I ment "Armorments". I say get in line. I do not fear the wardec, that is why I am in a player cor. As a matter of fact in the current state of the wardec system and eve, you can harm a scrap of metal on my pod. I would gladly show Spearhead Endeavors why the wardec system is broken.....lol |

Janus Cohen
Fundamental Armorments and Munitions
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden You realize that you're going to earn about a thousand wardecs for this post, right? 
Don't Care!!!!! It is a wardec. what does it mean? You can shoot me? I live in low sec. There are plenty of people who dont even have to pay 2 million isk to shoot me. Use a locator agent and find me buddy. And if you want to wardec me, then I invite you to. I can show you why the war dec system is broken.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:49:00 -
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Wait, what's wrong with the war-dec system? I randomly war-decked an innocent industrial corp last week and a great time was had on both sides. |

Janus Cohen
Fundamental Armorments and Munitions
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Posted - 2008.05.03 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Wait, what's wrong with the war-dec system? I randomly war-decked an innocent industrial corp last week and a great time was had on both sides.
Good glad to hear you guys had fun. It is a shame that there are some who would ruin that fun for you though. And absoulutley nothing is wrong with it. Like you said, you had fun, and that is what games are about. |

Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.05.03 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Janus Cohen
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Wait, what's wrong with the war-dec system? I randomly war-decked an innocent industrial corp last week and a great time was had on both sides.
Good glad to hear you guys had fun. It is a shame that there are some who would ruin that fun for you though. And absoulutley nothing is wrong with it. Like you said, you had fun, and that is what games are about. Because when it is all said and done, it is about who has the most isk.
What the hell are you trying to say? Confusing troll is confusing. |

Litair
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Posted - 2008.05.03 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Janus Cohen
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Wait, what's wrong with the war-dec system? I randomly war-decked an innocent industrial corp last week and a great time was had on both sides.
Good glad to hear you guys had fun. It is a shame that there are some who would ruin that fun for you though. And absoulutley nothing is wrong with it. Like you said, you had fun, and that is what games are about. Because when it is all said and done, it is about who has the most isk.
What the hell are you trying to say? Confusing troll is confusing.
Yeah I'll say the shifting use of full-blown irony and seriousness really does leave the point hanging somewhere in a very thick cloud  |

Sigul Siento
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Posted - 2008.05.03 22:29:00 -
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Edited by: Sigul Siento on 03/05/2008 22:29:13 Edited by: Sigul Siento on 03/05/2008 22:29:03
Originally by: Janus Cohen No I ment "Armorments".
I bet you did  |

DownTwisTeD
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Posted - 2008.05.03 23:41:00 -
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all that eve rage bro..
i do all my raging out in space these days where knowone can see it..   |

Alias Alpha
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Posted - 2008.05.03 23:50:00 -
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Belt rats beware eh? |

KapnKaboom
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.05.03 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej Unfortunately, crybears came in trolling and trying to derail it with their "I can't adapt without abusing a game mechanic that's broken, so I should just be allowed to - don't fix it!!!" crap and unfortunately seem to have buried a lot of it.
Maybe the devs will actually read through, but to be honest, probably not. There are too many other threads that crybears haven't made as much of a mess of (most of them crybear suggestions to begin with). Hopefully the 8-page one will stand out, though, and they'll dig through it anyway.
I doubt any ccp employee is going to waste time reading eight pages of cryrats crying over not being able to force carebears to fight them. But it's still great entertainment for the rest of us so it's all good.  |

Janus Cohen
Fundamental Armorments and Munitions
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Posted - 2008.05.04 02:49:00 -
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Edited by: Janus Cohen on 04/05/2008 02:52:51
Originally by: Havohej
Originally by: Janus Cohen Lets keep posting no onstructive ideas
Like this one. 
Seriously, though, A LOT of constructive ideas were posted in the previous threads. Unfortunately, crybears came in trolling and trying to derail it with their "I can't adapt without abusing a game mechanic that's broken, so I should just be allowed to - don't fix it!!!" crap and unfortunately seem to have buried a lot of it.
Maybe the devs will actually read through, but to be honest, probably not. There are too many other threads that crybears haven't made as much of a mess of (most of them crybear suggestions to begin with). Hopefully the 8-page one will stand out, though, and they'll dig through it anyway.
Well the corp hopping is not a flaw in game mechanics, it is a flaw within people. When you wardec a corp you are not purchasing kill rights on a person, you are purchasing kill rights on the corporation. If you want kill rights on individuals ask for it, because I want that too. Now when you purchase kill rights on the corporation you are getting to kill players because they are part of the corporation. When players leave the corporation they are no longer part of the corporation. This is why the wardec system is broken, because it is static, but the targets most players desire are not. The current war system only has a lasting effect if the player has a POS, because POS are static. Now I ask you how would you improve this wardec system? add kill rights?
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