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Xantheris
Unknown-Heroes
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 05:39:00 -
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I'd like to run some Level 2 Missions and don't really want to do it in a Cruiser. My gun skills are high, but my shield skills aren't all that good. So I was wondering, Wolf or Jaguar? Any setups are much appreciated.
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ceyriot
Induseng Enterprises
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.05.07 05:40:00 -
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Destroyer or Cruiser is probably better, easier, and cheaper IMO...and just wondering, why don't you want to use a Cruiser?
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Xantheris
Unknown-Heroes
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.07 05:53:00 -
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I think it'd be more fun in a Frigate I guess lol. |
Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2008.05.07 06:22:00 -
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For L2s I'd use an AutoWolf with an MSE. Like so:
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
1MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Extender II
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
200mm AutoCannon II
Rocket Launcher II
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
(This is basically just an AB version of my ninja-ratter.)
It's possible to cram in 3 gyros by making some other alterations, but I don't think it's worth it. You'll be killing things quickly enough that two nanos may actually get you a better killspeed than raw dps.
If you move on to L3s, the Jaguar is the more versatile ship, though the Wolf still has its advantages in several missions.
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Cpt Cosmic
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Posted - 2008.05.07 06:24:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 07/05/2008 06:24:11
Edited by: Cpt Cosmic on 07/05/2008 06:24:01
wolf and jaguar have same shield resistance, so I would take a wolf cause it sports more dmg and more falloff range with AC even if jaguar has more shield hp.
just slap 150 AC, Medium Shield Extender, AB in mids, dmg mods + overdrives in lows and rush through lvl 2 missions. |
Deadeye Devie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.07 12:45:00 -
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Jag, imho.....i got both and i would say the Jag is better...it may haver less dmg but its faster and better tanked.
highs
3x AC II 1xRL (II or named)
mids
1xABII 1xMSE II 2x shield recharger II
Lows
3x shield power relay
this think has 2k+ of shields, and can regen them fast....stupidly fast!!!
i put 2 purger rigs on mine for shield regen and reached 101s regen on shields, and it goes 800m/s+ walks lvl 2s and can easily tank lvl 3s....just low on DPS on 3s but if its a small one its no probs.
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Heelay Ashrum
Caldari
Santhe Sienar Technologies
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Posted - 2008.05.07 13:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Xantheris
I think it'd be more fun in a Frigate I guess lol.
then use a frigate.
passive tanked kestrell with std launchers should be fine
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2008.05.07 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Deadeye Devie
Jag, imho.....i got both and i would say the Jag is better...it may haver less dmg but its faster and better tanked.
highs
3x AC II 1xRL (II or named)
mids
1xABII 1xMSE II 2x shield recharger II
Lows
3x shield power relay
this think has 2k+ of shields, and can regen them fast....stupidly fast!!!
i put 2 purger rigs on mine for shield regen and reached 101s regen on shields, and it goes 800m/s+ walks lvl 2s and can easily tank lvl 3s....just low on DPS on 3s but if its a small one its no probs.
He's doing L2s. Tank, shmank.
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ArmyOfMe
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.05.07 17:18:00 -
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arty wolf without a doubt
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: ArmyOfMe
arty wolf without a doubt
Thats what I would do too. No need to run around.
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Siouxsie Xai
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.05.07 18:59:00 -
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Do it in a dram :P I did on another character and level 2 missions was a blast. I say Dram because there are some missions that you will be kiting and need standard launchers. And the armor and shields are nice for a frig. The wolf or Jag would be gimped in these cases. but if you insist on wolf or Jag I would say wolf.
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Makalie
Minmatar
Teikoku Trade Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.08 08:28:00 -
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Could you use a wolf or jag in lvl 3's? Or at that point is it simply more efficient to do them in a rupture/'cane?
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lol wut |
Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
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Posted - 2008.05.08 09:34:00 -
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Thrasher for Lvl2's; utter PWNage and I don't even have T2 small projectile weapons.
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Power's Urge
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Makalie
Could you use a wolf or jag in lvl 3's?
Sure; I use my Wolf against Blood Raiders and Sanshas (because of its resistances), and it does stuff like "Eliminate The Pirate Campers" or "The Rogue Slave Trader" quite fine both in Arty and AC setups. If you know what you're doing, even "Massive Attack" is possible in an Artillery Wolf. Haven't tried the Jag, because the Wolf's been doing all I needed so far, but EFT says it can be made to do similar things, though with either less tank or less dps of course.
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Or at that point is it simply more efficient to do them in a rupture/'cane?
A BC will be much more efficient than an AF in most L3 missions, but its also a lot more boring, so I stopped using mine. I doubt a Rupture (or any T1 cruiser, for that matter) can feasibly run many L3 missions without extreme skills (and also player skill) and an expensive T2/faction fitting.
As for the OP's original question, any AF will work for any L2 mission if you half know how to fit and use it, because their tank in comparison to the damage that's coming in makes them very forgiving of mistakes in that situation.
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ArmyOfMe
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.05.08 11:49:00 -
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its also fun and cheap to pimp out a wolf with faction/dead space mods like gist ab, and faction reps
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Deadeye Devie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.08 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Power's Urge
Originally by: Makalie
Could you use a wolf or jag in lvl 3's?
Sure; I use my Wolf against Blood Raiders and Sanshas (because of its resistances), and it does stuff like "Eliminate The Pirate Campers" or "The Rogue Slave Trader" quite fine both in Arty and AC setups. If you know what you're doing, even "Massive Attack" is possible in an Artillery Wolf. Haven't tried the Jag, because the Wolf's been doing all I needed so far, but EFT says it can be made to do similar things, though with either less tank or less dps of course.
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Or at that point is it simply more efficient to do them in a rupture/'cane?
A BC will be much more efficient than an AF in most L3 missions, but its also a lot more boring, so I stopped using mine. I doubt a Rupture (or any T1 cruiser, for that matter) can feasibly run many L3 missions without extreme skills (and also player skill) and an expensive T2/faction fitting.
As for the OP's original question, any AF will work for any L2 mission if you half know how to fit and use it, because their tank in comparison to the damage that's coming in makes them very forgiving of mistakes in that situation.
i would be more weary of taking in a wolf on a lvl 3 like AE or blockade tho...as in minnie space, angels are a bit of a nightmare having good spread of dmg...this is where the jag comes in...its less DPS more tank.
IMHO the wolf is all out gank pvp and the jag is for tank and pve. though both can be used fotr each role, these are where they accell the most.
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