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Hesod Adee Xen Of Onslaught	Posted - 2008.05.09 03:07:00 - [1] I've checked the ship setups thread and it has a lot of fittings with T2 guns, which I can't use. So can someone give me a cheap setup I can use for gang/solo PvP ? By cheap I'm probably looking at unnamed T1 gear, though I'll probably switch out some modules for cheap named if it isn't much more expensive.
Aadi Grox Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.05.09 03:43:00 - [2] so use t1
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.05.09 04:11:00 - [3] You could use T1 versions of the other fittings, like was suggested. Here's a less conventional fit that sacrifices gank and tank in exchange for the ability to quickly land on top of your opponent, even if they've safespotted. I will personally attest to the success of this fitting, although you are advised to only use it against frigs, destroyers, and newbs in cruisers. Also, fit the guns last, especially if you don't have Advanced Weapons Upgrades trained up. H: Three of the biggest guns (blasters only) that you can fit after everything else is fitted, Recon Probe Launcher, Prototype Cloak (optional) M: 10mn MWD, 2 point scram, webber L: Medium Armor Repper, 2 active hardeners, 2 CPU Enhancer II's DB: 5x Medium drones (T2 preferred)
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration Nex Eternus	Posted - 2008.05.09 05:56:00 - [4] Plenty of options. . . We have the all-out gankrax 5x Heavy Neutron Blaster 10 MN MWD, web, point 3x MFS, DCU, RCU and less balls-to-the-wall variants The 1600mm Microblaster Rax 5x Light Neutron Blaster 10MN MWD, web, point 1600mm plate, 2x EANM, DCU, Small Rep The 1600mm Electron Blaster Rax 5x Heavy Electron Blaster 10MN MWD, web, point 1600mm plate, EANM, DCU, RCU, and EANM/MFS The 800mm/Ion Rax 5x Heavy Ion Blaster MWD,web,point 800mm plate, EANM, DCU, MFS, RCU Note that with max skills and a PG implant this'll fit without an RCU (T2 won't though) Drones for all variants are 5 mediums of your choice, Hammerheads and Valkyries are common choices, as are Vespa EC-600s. Ammo is Antimatter, of course. If you can get them, use X5 webs, for 300-700k they're far more effective than a base T1 web, one of the game's best value-for-money mods when fitting ships cheap. Strategy here is simple enough, get close to an enemy, point him, web him and melt his face off with blasters. Hope you live longer than he does. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Inoue Zael Sa'ju Kal	Posted - 2008.05.09 06:07:00 - [5] Edited by: Inoue Zael on 09/05/2008 06:08:10 the poster above pretty much laid out the various builds of the rax Edit: jurgan cartis that is.
Diehard Si UK1 Zero G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.09 12:51:00 - [6] Edited by: Diehard Si on 09/05/2008 12:52:11 Yeah Jurgen has hit the nail on the head. Personally i go for the 1600mm electron setup with fed navy antimatter and ECM drones and a small armor repper.
Katarlia Simov Minmatar Cowboys From Hell	Posted - 2008.05.09 13:12:00 - [7] yup yup :) i like the full on gankrax, but then i mainly fly in gangs where theres less chance of getting shot at. For solo work its electrons and a big plate for me. All good set-ups though. Very solid lil cruiser when you got skillz. IIRC you can put out silly dps with neutrons (for its size), although I don't have numbers to hand. I normally go for damage drones, just becuase i like damage but again, for solo ECM is normally the better option.
Triksterism Gallente Image Not Found	Posted - 2008.05.09 15:39:00 - [8] Edited by: Triksterism on 09/05/2008 15:39:50 1600mm Setup 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer I 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Stasis Webifier I Warp Disruptor I Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Hammerhead I x5 800mm Setup 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Damage Control I Medium Armor Repairer I 10MN MicroWarpdrive I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Faint Warp Prohibitor I Heavy Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Electron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge M Hammerhead I x5 *NOTE* If you're going solo in one of these setups, use ECM drones instead.
Ashina Sito Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.05.09 19:32:00 - [9] Haven't looked over the above posts but... Off the Assembly Line Thorax. You can adjust the fittings to named/T2 as you see fit. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=690053
VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.05.09 20:01:00 - [10] Never even think about putting small guns on the thorax. It is just about the worst possible fitting in EVE. Bring up the ship and take a look at the type of bonus it gets. Yes. Medium hybrids. The sole point, and the ONLY reason to use a Thorax over any other cruiser is DAMAGE. You will NEVER get that if you ignore the ship's only damage bonus. Use the vexor with small guns, most of the damage comes from the drones anyways. Or use the rupture w/ a 1600 plate and dual 180's- you actually get the damage bonus! Even the suggested RCU fitting makes more sense than small guns. A properly fit/flown vexor/rupture/thorax will beat the idiotic small guns thorax every single time.
uraniumcore1 Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.09 21:42:00 - [11] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Never even think about putting small guns on the thorax. It is just about the worst possible fitting in EVE. Bring up the ship and take a look at the type of bonus it gets. Yes. Medium hybrids. The sole point, and the ONLY reason to use a Thorax over any other cruiser is DAMAGE. You will NEVER get that if you ignore the ship's only damage bonus. Use the vexor with small guns, most of the damage comes from the drones anyways. Or use the rupture w/ a 1600 plate and dual 180's- you actually get the damage bonus! Even the suggested RCU fitting makes more sense than small guns. A properly fit/flown vexor/rupture/thorax will beat the idiotic small guns thorax every single time. pfft...please.
uraniumcore1 Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.09 21:48:00 - [12] Victim: xxx Alliance: None Corp: preatum niht-hraefn Destroyed: Zealot System: Vecamia Security: 0.4 Involved parties: Name: uraniumcore1 (laid the final blow) Security: -9.9 Alliance: None Corp: Uraniumcore Ship: Thorax Weapon:Light Neutron Blaster II Destroyed items: Dropped items:, Qty: 6 Heavy Pulse Laser II, Qty: 4 Medium Nosferatu II Multifrequency M, Qty: 2 Conflagration M, Qty: 2 10MN MicroWarpdrive II J5b Phased Prototype Warp Inhibitor I Stasis Webifier II Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Heat Sink II, Qty: 2 Overdrive Injector System II Power Diagnostic System II, Qty: 2 Gamma M, Qty: 4 (Cargo) Multifrequency M, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Conflagration M, Qty: 2 (Cargo) Scorch M, Qty: 5 (Cargo) Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
uraniumcore1 Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.09 21:49:00 - [13] 1600mm Setup 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer I 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Stasis Webifier I Warp Disruptor I Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster I, Antimatter Charge S Hammerhead I x5 is King!!!!!!!!!! Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
uraniumcore1 Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.09 21:50:00 - [14] tho everything t-1..i use t-2...nuff said Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes
General Coochie The Bastards	Posted - 2008.05.09 22:08:00 - [15] Edited by: General Coochie on 09/05/2008 22:08:29 meh The Vigil and The Caracal (duo PvP movie)
Triksterism Gallente Image Not Found	Posted - 2008.05.09 22:57:00 - [16] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Never even think about putting small guns on the thorax. It is just about the worst possible fitting in EVE. Bring up the ship and take a look at the type of bonus it gets. Yes. Medium hybrids. The sole point, and the ONLY reason to use a Thorax over any other cruiser is DAMAGE. You will NEVER get that if you ignore the ship's only damage bonus. Use the vexor with small guns, most of the damage comes from the drones anyways. Or use the rupture w/ a 1600 plate and dual 180's- you actually get the damage bonus! Even the suggested RCU fitting makes more sense than small guns. A properly fit/flown vexor/rupture/thorax will beat the idiotic small guns thorax every single time. Sometimes it's okay to go against the bonus in favor of survivability. All t1 geared with small guns + hammerheads I do about 250 DPS. Not much but in a gang its nice. Hell, get two of those thoraxes together and you have two tough cruisers without spending much ISK PLUS together they'd do about 500 DPS.
Aadi Grox Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.05.09 23:20:00 - [17] best 1600 setup, depends on your skills for fit 5x heavy electrons mwd, web, scram 1600 plate, RCU, 1x EANM, DC, eanm/MFS ECM drones
Hesod Adee Xen Of Onslaught	Posted - 2008.05.09 23:40:00 - [18] Originally by: uraniumcore1 Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Never even think about putting small guns on the thorax. It is just about the worst possible fitting in EVE. Bring up the ship and take a look at the type of bonus it gets. Yes. Medium hybrids. The sole point, and the ONLY reason to use a Thorax over any other cruiser is DAMAGE. You will NEVER get that if you ignore the ship's only damage bonus. Use the vexor with small guns, most of the damage comes from the drones anyways. Or use the rupture w/ a 1600 plate and dual 180's- you actually get the damage bonus! Even the suggested RCU fitting makes more sense than small guns. A properly fit/flown vexor/rupture/thorax will beat the idiotic small guns thorax every single time. pfft...please. So your only counter to that argument is that you got 1 kill with it ? At least Triksterism gives a decent argument for it. So I'll consider it if I find my survivability with medium blasters is too low. I'll try the setup Ashina Sito linked to unless someone can tell me a problem with it. So I'll be running: Highs: 5x Heavy Ion Blaster (antimatter) Mids: Warp Scram, Stasis Web, 10mn MWD Lows: Medium armor repairer I, Damage control I, EANM I, 400mm Steel Plate I, RCU With adjustments to named as I see fit.
Fivel Ve Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.10 00:58:00 - [19] if your gunnery skills are good can add some ECM drones to spice things up, they work nicely against other cruiser sized ships and smaller stuff ship setups

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