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Shiv
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Posted - 2003.06.13 18:28:00 -
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I got a Lif Booster last night and put it on my Moa. I checked the stats and noticed that the speed increase % was 73.
Log on, download patch and check the stats again. Now it is showing as 58%. This wouldn't have ****ed me off as much if it were in the patch release notes, but now I am a bit steamed about all of these negative changes in the game that are NOT mentioned in the patch release notes.
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soltys
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Posted - 2003.06.13 18:41:00 -
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And it was so nice afterburner :(
I know (and agree) about MWD nerf, but what was wrong with LiF ?
BTW - basic speed improvement is 37.5% now, sniff :(
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soltys
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Posted - 2003.06.13 21:42:00 -
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What was wrong with LiF giving bonus 50% ? It's still pretty rare afterburner and very good one.
Is this an intended change ?
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.06.13 21:50:00 -
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Well the LiF were dropping from Angels and were the ONLY pirate drop that was actually BETTER then the rest. Every other module, and I mean EVERY OTHER MODULE that dropped from pirates in Minmatar space was the WORST. THE WORST out of all the other pirate version. Caldari space seemed to be REALLY gifted. They had the best pirate dropped gun, shields, you name it. Minmatar pirate version of everything was the worst. LiF was the only thing us damn minmatar had from our pirates.
Now it got nerfed to the crappiest as well. I know there's a loot rework coming but oh man, I hope it balances this out.
Edited by: Hippey on 13/06/2003 21:51:45
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When victory's really a massacre.
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Shiv
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Posted - 2003.06.13 21:50:00 -
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There is nothing terribly wrong with 58% (although a regular AB has an increase of 43%), it's the fact that there was no mention in the patch release notes about this change. |
Territai
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Posted - 2003.06.13 22:36:00 -
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These arent the only things, they also nailed capacitor regen items. The AGM is drasticly nerfed now from 16.4% to something like 6%.
WTG ccp, lets fix everything with the biggest sledgehammer you can find. Lets fix things that dont even need to be fixed!
Doesnt matter any more, I canceled. Not going to wait a minute and a half for my cruiser to enter warp, and I'm not going to spend twice as long moving across this already boring and unpopulated galaxy.
Maybe if they ever get a clue I'll re-enable my account in a month or two. Im done paying for beta.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.06.14 01:10:00 -
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I wish people wouldn't post to say they're leaving.
And if you can't see the bigger picture, then you'll probably never return.
Just because you have gotten used to something, doesn't mean it was right.
This is probably the same reaction the the day1-3 ark miners had, when pirates were put in the systems. I'm sure they were mighty ****ed, but it was a situation that couldn't go on, as it caused a huge imbalance.
over the top weapons are the same.
The stuff we have been using is roughly equivalent to level 5 tech items. We were lucky, for a while, but now we are back where we should be.
Don't get me wrong, I'm steamed about my MWD's Afterburners and ArcJets, but I realise that is really rather unbalanced, and needed changing.
Take a deep breath, put yourself in someone elses shoes, like a newbies. You'll see it differently.
And another way to look at it:
If a tech 1 MWD can get me to 2300m/s, then what is the point in getting a tech 5 MWD? The same with guns. Why would you look for a level 4 medium laser if a level 1 with a couple of boosters is more powerful?
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.06.14 01:16:00 -
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I definetly thing most of the "nerfs" were needed. I'm just miffed about Minmatar loot being quite subpar compared to others, but loot table IS being worked on, so I guess I just gotta be patient and wait. But waiting IS the hardest part.
I agree with most nerfs. I don't agree with normal AB nerf and lowering the meta modules down to only 1% higher bonus then normal crap you can find on the market. Those two things only.
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.06.14 01:22:00 -
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Yo Hippey, could I ask a favour?
Your sig.. could you put a hyphen-line above it or something, I always read straight through it. So when you've actually finished I can tell? :)
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Bale
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Posted - 2003.06.14 02:06:00 -
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Drunkenmaster, we're talking about regular old afterburners, not micro-warp drives. Please tell me how afterburners are over-powered. I sure don't feel over-powered doing 650 m/s in my Rifter when I know, even post nerf, there's fat ass cruiser tooling around at 2000 m/s!
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Ulf Ulfsson
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Posted - 2003.06.14 11:27:00 -
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Ah, so I didn't imagine the AGM capacitor nerf thing. I KNEW I had a mid slot 16% cap item but when I cam to look for it to try it out I couldn't find it. Cos it wasn't mentioned in the patch notes I assumed I'd recycled it or something.
I don't think this needed nerfing - the mid slots are "survival" slots and though I'd had this item for some time I didn't equip it because the mid slots are so valuable. I can't see many people giving up a mid slot for a paltry 6% cap boost when you can get almost that and all the other goodness off power diags in your lows.... (and I know some people prefer lows, but I like my mids)
And as for the undocumented LIF nerf - boohoo - I used to like flying my vigil at 2800 m/s ;-)
As Hippey says, the one decent Minmatar drop bites the dust and now just bites.....
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Darkannis
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Posted - 2003.06.14 14:24:00 -
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Shield regenerators, Damage control, cap rechargers - all got nerfed in a similar sledgehammer fashion.
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2003.06.14 16:59:00 -
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the AB that drops in amarr space - Monopropellant I hydrazine booster was previously a 32.5% .. now its 27.5% so they all got nerfed
(and yup my AGM capacitor is now 5.6% instead of 16% .. maybe the 1 was a typo in the first place ?)
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Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2003.06.14 17:42:00 -
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I'm more upset about Hydraulic Stabilizers being only 6.5%, I mean they really needed a nerf, but now they're worse than Gyro I's and harder to find =/. Why would I go out and hunt for 4 hours to find a couple Hydraulics when I can buy gyros from the market that do 1.5% less?
Edited by: Xelios on 14/06/2003 17:43:10
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