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Tara Nighthawk
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.10 18:42:00 -
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Still a bit lost here.
My main is a miner and prospector (Gallente). The trouble is that I have no idea how or where to find anything except Veldspar.
Where do I go to find other minerals? How do I find them?
I have tried jumping to a few other locations and then looking in asteroid fields, but I found nothing except more Veldspar.
Oddly enough, my alt went looking for NPC bandits - with the same result. She couldn't find those either.
Both characters are still n00bs, so low-security isn't a good option yet. I have done the missions, but I can't remember where they sent me. 
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Avalon Solaris
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Posted - 2008.05.10 18:47:00 -
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Go to your overview settings and make sure all minerals are checked. As far as I know, there are always at least 3 ores per belt, unless they've been mined out.
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Amastat
Caldari
Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.05.10 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 10/05/2008 18:52:05
There is different kinds of ore in each belt, there should be more than just Veldspar (unless your looking in belts that have been mined out by others).
Here is a good chart that illustrates the rules on where you can find what ore, when it comes to race and security status.
You also need to make sure your overview is set to show all the ore you see, not just one type of ore. You can do that by going to the right-arrow on top-left your overview window, you can configure it under asteroid section.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.05.10 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 10/05/2008 19:08:37
Your Over View Settings are set to Standard now.
Set them to Mining and the other minerals will show up.
Get familiar with modifying your settings and saving them to different names. You can then assign these names to tabs to help you switch back and forth more easily.
I like to have a Standard setting that doesn't include any veldspar but does include the star gates.
I also have views that only show specific Asteroid types so if that's what I need to mine then they'll be easier to spot.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.10 19:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Tara Nighthawk
The trouble is that I have no idea how or where to find anything except Veldspar.
That's no trouble at all. Right now, Veldspar is one of the more valuable ores in both lowsec and highsec combined.
Just mine veldspar, and sell some tritanium, buy whatever minerals you're missing with that cash.
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Amastat
Caldari
Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.05.10 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Tara Nighthawk
The trouble is that I have no idea how or where to find anything except Veldspar.
That's no trouble at all. Right now, Veldspar is one of the more valuable ores in both lowsec and highsec combined.
Just mine veldspar, and sell some tritanium, buy whatever minerals you're missing with that cash.
Veldspar is the best thing to ISK farm, but the OP may be a manufacturer and he's looking for other mineral types to build with, not sell.
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2008.05.10 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Amastat
Veldspar is the best thing to ISK farm, but the OP may be a manufacturer and he's looking for other mineral types to build with, not sell.
Hence why Akita said:
Originally by: Akita T
Just mine veldspar, and sell some tritanium, buy whatever minerals you're missing with that cash.
Both ISK and minerals are extremely liquid forms of assets, so what is good for 'ISK farming' is also good for mineral farming due to the high efficiency and availability of the veldspar => ISK => whatever mineral you want conversion.
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Tara Nighthawk
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.10 21:48:00 -
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Thanks - changing those settings has transformed my mining.
I am trying to get into manufacturing, so I need various minerals. My first attempts involved buying everything except Tritanium - which cuts into the profit margin too much. 
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.05.11 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 11/05/2008 00:09:06
As to getting into manufacturing, be aware that what you also need to learn, is trading in addition to mining and manufacturing. Here, I'm not just talking about skill points but about learning how the market works.
You should also be aware that the learning process for all of this is fairly expensive as the market is extremely competitive.
So, what you may want to do is operate in two ways as you are learning.
When you need money, mine and sell the raw ore.
When you want to learn about making things, then go ahead and start fooling around with that. Just be aware that with your skills not as good as those who've been playing the game for several years, you are at a disadvantage as to the efficiency with which you can do it and that will cut into your profit margins.
It helps if you aren't afraid to do some math.
Research the market, possibly across several nearby regions and see what things are selling for that you might want to make.
Then look at what you might get by just selling the minerals you refined.
Then look at what you might get by just selling the ore in an unrefined state.
Then decide if you still want to make the thing you were thinking of making or if you only want to make a few of them for the experience.
Make things in small lots until you have your skills up, then move up to investing larger amounts of materials into what you make.
Be aware that this will take a long time.
To speed things up you can do several things:
1) You can join a corporation that specializes in what you want to do.
2) You can get multiple accounts, so that you'd have an engineer and a trader as well, running all three at the same time, you can have two of them mining while the third (probably the trader) is in an industrial hauling. Train each in the skills they specialize in and pass the materials along from one to the other as you move through the process of mining, manufacturing and trading.
3) Do both.
Lastly, partly so you can do something other than mining but also to improve your efficiency, run missions for the corporations owning the facilities you are based out of. The higher your standing with them, the less they will take for dealing with your stuff.
Look at the stickies at the head of this forum. There are some excellent guides that will really help.
Fly Safe & Have Fun.
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Pan Dora
Caldari
Bears Inc
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Posted - 2008.05.11 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tara Nighthawk
Thanks - changing those settings has transformed my mining.
I am trying to get into manufacturing, so I need various minerals. My first attempts involved buying everything except Tritanium - which cuts into the profit margin too much.
If, to manufacture something, buing all the materials its cutting profit margin too much you probalby shouldnt manufacture it. That equals to say that the manufacture process its not improving the value of your good enough.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.11 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tara Nighthawk
I am trying to get into manufacturing, so I need various minerals. My first attempts involved buying everything except Tritanium - which cuts into the profit margin too much.
And your first attempts were the correct ones.
You SHOULD be mining Veldspar mainly and selling excess Tritanium wherever you find a high buy order for Tritanium.
Ok, maybe mix in a bit of Scordite and Pyroxeres into the mix so you'll also get some of the other lowends where you need them, so you won't have to haul anything except the highends you buy.
Let me put it another way.
IF you can mine in a system (or very close to a system) with very high Tritanium buy orders, your "time value" is high.
You could be mining for 6 hours Veldspar, selling 4 hour's worth and buying everything else you need... or you could mine 2 hours for Veldspar, 2 hours for Scordite, 2 Hours for Pyroxeres, 2 hours for Kernite and 2 Hours for Omber... and get ALMOST the EXACT same amount of minerals, and still have to buy some missing highends.
In the first scenario, you mined for 6 hours and you used the market, maybe did a bit of hauling.
In the second scenario, you mined for 8 hours and you still had to use the market for some missing minerals, while still having to haul since I bet you won't be finding all those ores close together.
This was a hypothetical example, but the point remais : you mine whatever's most profitable "per hour" at the price you can sell the minerals for, and you use the excess cash to buy the missing minerals.
You are NOT "cutting into your profit margins" by buying the rest of the minerals... you are cutting into your profit margins when you decide to mine the "less valuable" ore just so you don't have to spend ISK.
Yes, the ore was "free", in the sense that you used no ISK... but that doesn't mean your time has no value, and that value is dictated by the most profitable activity you could have chosen to do.
By all means, if you enjoy mining (seriously, DO you ?) then keep mining a little bit of this and that.
But if you're in it for the ISK, listen to the ones telling you to only mine whatever's most profitable at the moment, and use the market to get the rest of the missing minerals.
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Spud Gunn
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Posted - 2008.05.11 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Yes, the ore was "free", in the sense that you used no ISK... but that doesn't mean your time has no value, and that value is dictated by the most profitable activity you could have chosen to do.
Oh god, this is going to turn into another one of "those" topics...
*hides*
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.11 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Spud Gunn
Originally by: Akita T
Yes, the ore was "free", in the sense that you used no ISK... but that doesn't mean your time has no value, and that value is dictated by the most profitable activity you could have chosen to do.
Oh god, this is going to turn into another one of "those" topics... *hides*
Only if some smart alec can still find some fault with this particular wording 
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Tara Nighthawk
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.11 10:29:00 -
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Thanks guys. It had occured to me that I was making something out of tritanium and then selling it for not much more than the tritanium would have fetched anyway. However, it is very satisfying to manufacture something like a spaceship, rather than just mining and selling the refined minerals. Selling some finished product feels better than just selling some boring minerals - or worse still, just the ore.
Unfortunately, from a financial point of view, you are probably right. Still, it is a game not real life. If I go broke here, I just do something else to bring in some cash and then try again.
Is there a list somewhere of what minerals come from which ore please? 
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.05.11 12:28:00 -
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Ore.
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Pan Dora
Caldari
Bears Inc
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Posted - 2008.05.11 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tara Nighthawk
Is there a list somewhere of what minerals come from which ore please?
This site has the answer, and other nice tools
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MrYiff
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.05.11 14:36:00 -
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Check out this site for an idea of what ore is in each system: http://www.fluidorbit.co.uk/
And to help you figure out what to mine, check out this site: http://eve.grismar.net/ore/index.php
Just be sure to update the prices on that site with the ones in your system as the default prices dont reflect current eve prices.
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.05.11 21:15:00 -
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There's a lot more ore in the Amarr regions like Domain and Khanid than there are in Gallente and Caldari noobspace. In Khanid you can even get the fiery (+10% yield) Kernite in high-sec. You may be in systems that are mined-out.
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Tara Nighthawk
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.11 21:20:00 -
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Is it safe to visit fairly high-sec regions of the other races?
So the zealous Amarr will not object to a Gallente heathen venturing into their space?
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.05.11 21:26:00 -
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You can visit any high-sec system. Sometimes there are a few low-sec systems in between though. Go to your star map and in the "autopilot settings" panel set it to "safest route" instead of "shortest route".
I highly recommend getting Ombey's 2D maps of EVE. I think its http://ombeve.co.uk to look for 0.5 or 0.6 systems with lots of asteroid belts nearby refineries. The regions you might want to look at are Domain, Kor-Azor, Kador, Tash-Murkon, and Khanid.
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Cloned S0ul
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Posted - 2008.05.11 23:31:00 -
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Just go to 0.7 system or 0.6 there u find more types of ore,open map and go to filter,use (security status)then u see all system name and security status in map.Gren-blue-yelow mean 1.0 to 0.5 red low sec and 0.0
But if u are newbi stay in 1.0-0.6 u are (safe) kuz in 0.5 probably strong npc kill you (train som drones those little crazy hornets are nightmare for npc ;) 3 drones can easy pop all npc in asteroids bells.
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Mara Rinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.12 02:31:00 -
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Erm... the highest ISK/hr from mining at present is either Veldspar or Pyroxeres. Why would you mine other ores when you're financially better off just mining Veldspar, processing (one ore type) to Tritanium, selling off what you don't need and buying the other minerals with the proceeds?
If you make 100 ISK/m3 from mining veldspar, since you process that 1m3 of Veldspar to 100ISK worth of tritanium, why would you spend your time mining Kernite (~85 ISK/m3) or Omber (~90ISK/m3)? You're effectively wasting 10% of your time!
Besides, Veldspar is available in copious quantites in 0.8 and 0.9 systems, where you have no NPC rats! You can rig your ship completely for mining, and not worry about wasting drones or weapon fittings or CPU or PG on defending yourself from rats!
Am I missing something?
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