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Minermax
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.12 01:01:00 -
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(well I will be getting it in the morning when my skill training completes), but anyways I want to get some ideas on what to do with it once I am "all set up". I mean the obvious answer is mining but I already know that, what I'm talking about it how I can maximize my ISK making. I'm not part of a corp yet and am not ready for low sec mining so what should I be looking for in the .5+ systems? Should I just be mining veld. constantly? Or is there another mineral I should be looking for now that I have a decent mining ship? Thanks for any advice, take in mind I'm still very much a noob in the game 
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Matt Steel
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.05.12 01:21:00 -
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Well, you could sell everything you mine. Or you could get into manufacturing, buy some ammo and module BPO's, some weapon BPO's and a couple of frigate BPO's. Use what you mine to build and sell stuff.. salvagers and tractor beam BPO's are good inversion, 'cause a lot of people do salvage.
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.12 01:31:00 -
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If you like a bit of variation find a place to do some kill missions. Do missions until you get one with lots of roids in it. You can usually mine those without any interference.
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Monkey Saturday
SAS Elite Ops
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.05.12 01:31:00 -
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Veld is selling well, and for the beginning miner it can turn a decent profit.
Just be wary of jetcanning. There are pirates out there.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.05.12 01:48:00 -
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Fit a 20km scrammer in the mids and put 5 light scouts in the drone bay. Instead of cargo expanders put an armor repper and an adaptive nano plate. The lack of cargo space won't matter since you're jetcan mining. This fitting will give you the option of engaging can thieves, but be sure to pick your targets wisely. Realistically you'll be limited to killing industrials and some lower-tier frigates, but it's always loads of fun to blow someone up.
Just be sure to dock up afterward because once they get a new ship they'll have legal aggression against you for 15 minutes. Well 15 minutes from the time that you attacked them.
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Leora Nomen
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.12 05:27:00 -
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Yeah ore thieves are going to decrease you ISK/time earning potential, so you have to be prepared. I would suggest mining with a friend who can haul your ore for you as you mine it or getting into a player corporation and mining in a group. You can also mine in missions in relative safety. Accept a mission, then you have like a week to do it. NPCs respawn after every downtime. So you go in, clear all the NPCs, get your mining barge out and start mining. Repeat every day and turn the mission in before it expires. If you have no combat skills or do not wish to do missions then you'll either have to rely on other people or take some measures like using combat drones instead of mining drones for self defense. Also if you mine in some backwater system you won't be bothered too much.
As to what you should mine depends really on your region and local prices. Some people would mine in Amarr space entire week. Then use a freighter to carry all the minerals to Caldari space. Amarr space is relatively empty and it has some good ores like kernite, and Caldari space has higher mineral prices due to all those mission runners consuming ships, mods, and items. But if you do not plan on hauling your minerals somewhere else then you really have to check you local prices.
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Tzar'rim
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.05.12 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 12/05/2008 09:10:48
 Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Fit a 20km scrammer in the mids and put 5 light scouts in the drone bay. Instead of cargo expanders put an armor repper and an adaptive nano plate. The lack of cargo space won't matter since you're jetcan mining. This fitting will give you the option of engaging can thieves, but be sure to pick your targets wisely. Realistically you'll be limited to killing industrials and some lower-tier frigates, but it's always loads of fun to blow someone up.
Just be sure to dock up afterward because once they get a new ship they'll have legal aggression against you for 15 minutes. Well 15 minutes from the time that you attacked them.
Unless you have some REALLY good droneskills that's very bad advise. IF you want to do that you have to include a webifier. If you can't kill the ore thief at the first agression you're done for. I can (could, corp says no can flipping :P) easily outlast most drones unless that pilot has some proper skills.
The web is the key to it all, even more than a scram. A webbed frig doesn't last long against drones. Even then, after agression dock up and wait out your timer.
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:03:00 -
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Join a player corp with access to safe rocks in 0.0 or lowsec?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.05.12 18:28:00 -
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0.0, sure. Lowsec, what's the point ?
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.05.12 20:00:00 -
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As an alternative or in addition to joining a corporation you might get a second account and put them in a hauler.
If you are mining Veldspar you may as well stay in .9 or 1.0 space where Concord will respond faster if you get attacked.
For right now, you might just want to mine your brains out and sell the raw ore, unless you've already got your refining skills up. If you do decide to refine, make sure you're at a base with at least a 50% yield, which with your refining skills up, will get you about 90%.
Later, if you do missions for the NPC Corp that owns the base you can reduce what they take and it's a good break from mining all the time.
Read the link to the mining guide in the stickies area at the top of this forum.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.05.12 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim
The web is the key to it all, even more than a scram. A webbed frig doesn't last long against drones. Even then, after agression dock up and wait out your timer.
But likewise without really good drone skills a webbed frigate will warp out before it gets killed. If he only has an AB you'll get more firing time in if you have him scrammed out to the 20km than you would if he was webbed. Probably it'd be a difference of around five seconds, I'd think, although that would depend on their ship and fittings as well.
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Tzar'rim
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.05.12 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 12/05/2008 23:22:57
If you don't have the drone skills then don't agress at all. If you can't kill the attacking frig fast enough before he takes down your drones or gets out then don't even try. The ONLY chance you have is if your drones hurt a LOT more than the attacker anticipated, wich is 'multiplied' by the webber.
Yes without a scram he can warp off, but without a webber he can just run away. Thing is that you have just a few seconds for the attacker to react to the new situation and try to get out. a webber means he'll be popped before he realized what happened.
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt :)
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Monkey Saturday
SAS Elite Ops
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.05.13 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
0.0, sure. Lowsec, what's the point ?
Believe it or not, but there are some lowsec systems that border 0.0 with better ore. It pays to look around basically.
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Pan Dora
Caldari
Bears Inc
Violent-Tendencies
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Posted - 2008.05.13 04:06:00 -
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Ignore the 'combat retriever' ideia. Your ship worth much more then the targets you can get, and even then your chances are pretty low. Its simple pointless.
If you want to mine, go mine. Take a look at the mineral prices at the market to see wich one its worth at given time because it always change.
If you want to go pew pew, then go pew pew. Just take a proper ship and make sure you can afford to lose it.
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Eastaquoy Kid
Gallente
Harray Hunters
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Posted - 2008.05.15 12:18:00 -
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I mine in a Retriever with 3 strip miners and cargo extenders. This gives me 6000M3 capacity which I can fill in 7 minutes. I then run to a safe sopt about 3000Km from the belt and jet can. This much quicker than running back to a station and a lot safer than jet canning in the belt. I then mine until time is running out or I am bored, then back to the staion for my Itty V and pick up the ore. I have 5 Hammerheads for belt rats but would not dream of using them on a player
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Tkar vonBiggendorf
Gallente
Snake Eyes Inc
Friend or Enemy
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Posted - 2008.05.16 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Eastaquoy Kid
I mine in a Retriever with 3 strip miners and cargo extenders. This gives me 6000M3 capacity which I can fill in 7 minutes.
WTB: Retriever with 3 high slots.
A Hulk can easily pull 4500-5000m3 every 3 minutes. It fills 27,500m3 jetcans in 12-15 minutes. Any time spent warping is time spent NOT mining. If you're in a low-population system, ore thieves will be rare, and you can absorb the loss and mine an extra jetcan faster than wasting all that time warping around protecting your ore.
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