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Karn Edge
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.05.15 16:32:00 -
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Hey all you EVEcast listeners out! EVEcast is finally back... we're talking about the original! Just for the CSM elections, we at EVEcast have put together two mini-episodes with interviews of several CSM Candidates. We hope we can help out in the voting process. Check out the episodes at EVEcast.com
Season 2 Episode 1 (Part 1) Interviewees: Lavista Vista Tai Wan Ma Zhiqiang Hardin Jade Constantine
Season 2 Episode 1 (Part 2) Interviewees: Darius Johnson Guomindong Diedra Vaal Bane Glorious
If there are any more candidates for the CSM Election that would like to be interviewed, please let us know through evecast (AT) evecast (DOT) com!
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:33:00 -
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Goum's voice doesn't quite sound like how I expected. |

Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Glorious Goum's voice doesn't quite sound like how I expected.
Whereas you sounded more or less exactly as I expected 
CSM Election Manifesto 2008 |

Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Glorious Goum's voice doesn't quite sound like how I expected.
That is what trevor said too.
Vote Goumindong for CSM |

Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Glorius Jade Constantine is a douche--I don't hate his ideas, I hate the guy because he's a jerk. Whenever you point out something wrong in what he says he'll change the subject or try to deflect it somehow which is stupid and is not going to be productive at all to CSM. He's surrounded himself by a bunch of people who think he's a genius when he's really just talkative and honestly I hope he doesn't make it because he will throw the entire thing off track--he'll be a stupid jerk and think he's smart.
This whole bull**** he's feeding people about big alliances love invincible POS is a load of crap. So please if you've been fed his ******** propaganda, just drop it.
bane vote secured ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:46:00 -
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Nice to be the number one hate and terror figure for Goonfleet -
Looking forward to discussing your issues personally in Iceland Bane.
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 15/05/2008 17:49:01
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Bane Glorius Jade Constantine is a douche--I don't hate his ideas, I hate the guy because he's a jerk. Whenever you point out something wrong in what he says he'll change the subject or try to deflect it somehow which is stupid and is not going to be productive at all to CSM. He's surrounded himself by a bunch of people who think he's a genius when he's really just talkative and honestly I hope he doesn't make it because he will throw the entire thing off track--he'll be a stupid jerk and think he's smart.
This whole bull**** he's feeding people about big alliances love invincible POS is a load of crap. So please if you've been fed his ******** propaganda, just drop it.
Nice to be the number one hate and terror figure for Goonfleet -
Looking forward to discussing your issues personally in Iceland Bane.
Oh me too, don't worry 'bout it. |

Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Bane Glorius Jade Constantine is a douche--I don't hate his ideas, I hate the guy because he's a jerk. Whenever you point out something wrong in what he says he'll change the subject or try to deflect it somehow which is stupid and is not going to be productive at all to CSM. He's surrounded himself by a bunch of people who think he's a genius when he's really just talkative and honestly I hope he doesn't make it because he will throw the entire thing off track--he'll be a stupid jerk and think he's smart.
This whole bull**** he's feeding people about big alliances love invincible POS is a load of crap. So please if you've been fed his ******** propaganda, just drop it.
bane vote secured
In all fairness i've been saying that a lot longer than Bane.
Vote Goumindong for CSM |

Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Bane Glorius Jade Constantine is a douche--I don't hate his ideas, I hate the guy because he's a jerk. Whenever you point out something wrong in what he says he'll change the subject or try to deflect it somehow which is stupid and is not going to be productive at all to CSM. He's surrounded himself by a bunch of people who think he's a genius when he's really just talkative and honestly I hope he doesn't make it because he will throw the entire thing off track--he'll be a stupid jerk and think he's smart.
This whole bull**** he's feeding people about big alliances love invincible POS is a load of crap. So please if you've been fed his ******** propaganda, just drop it.
bane vote secured
In all fairness i've been saying that a lot longer than Bane.
I'm kidding I really voted for you. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.15 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Glorious Oh me too, don't worry 'bout it.
Oh its cool, I know you're just a big *****-cat at heart Bane. I'm sure you'll be as forthright face to face.
All the best.
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.15 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Bane Glorious on 15/05/2008 18:17:29
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Bane Glorius Jade Constantine is a douche--I don't hate his ideas, I hate the guy because he's a jerk. Whenever you point out something wrong in what he says he'll change the subject or try to deflect it somehow which is stupid and is not going to be productive at all to CSM. He's surrounded himself by a bunch of people who think he's a genius when he's really just talkative and honestly I hope he doesn't make it because he will throw the entire thing off track--he'll be a stupid jerk and think he's smart.
This whole bull**** he's feeding people about big alliances love invincible POS is a load of crap. So please if you've been fed his ******** propaganda, just drop it.
bane vote secured
In all fairness i've been saying that a lot longer than Bane.
In public, perhaps yes. This is just a recent instance of me expressing that opinion broadly.
Again, to reiterate my statement, I'm not against some things that Jade wants. Destructible outposts can be worked into the game in some way, and I'd like to see sovereignty become more accessible and engaging to more players. The issue is that many of Jade's ideas simply aren't compatible with EVE (based on the way he describes them) or are based on false assertions. Whether he genuinely believes his assertions I don't know, but if it isn't willful or unwillful ignorance, it is simply pandering to voters shamelessly by blowing sunshine up their behinds (as Darius might say).
I also find his perception of what the "status quo" is very perplexing at times.
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 15/05/2008 18:05:46
Originally by: Bane Glorious Oh me too, don't worry 'bout it.
Oh its cool, I know you're just a big softy at heart Bane. I'm sure you'll be as forthright face to face.
All the best.
Despite it all, I am certain that you will find that I will be a very even-handed, open-minded, and above all else patient member of the CSM. Just so long as you (or any other CSM member, for that matter) keep your belligerent compulsions under control and do your best to reciprocate the courtesy that I will extend to other members of the CSM. The last thing I want is for the CSM to become a cacophonous and unproductive waste of CCP's time, as well as ours. |

Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.15 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 15/05/2008 18:17:52
Originally by: Bane Glorious The issue is that many of Jade's ideas simply aren't compatible with EVE (based on the way he describes them) or are based on false assertions.
Do you have some examples of this?
Quote: Whether he genuinely believes his assertions I don't know, but if it isn't willful or unwillful ignorance, it is simply pandering to voters shamelessly by blowing sunshine up their behinds (as Darius might say).
I'd call it campaigning on issues and illustrating the kind of candidate I am and the kind of CSM rep I would be - this kind of public expression of vision and aspiration for the game allows eve voters to decide what kind of representatives they are going to trust with their vote.
But since you personally don't need to campaign since you have a block vote assigned to your name regardless of anything you might say I can understand why you find it a little difficult to understand the process of campaigning in and of itself.
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LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
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Posted - 2008.05.15 18:24:00 -
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Sometimes I understand why people don't believe in CSM.
God damnit guys, those ego's. Pack them together. It's **** poor to look at. 
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.15 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Bane Glorious Despite it all, I am certain that you will find that I will be a very even-handed, open-minded, and above all else patient member of the CSM. Just so long as you (or any other CSM member, for that matter) keep your belligerent compulsions under control and do your best to reciprocate the courtesy that I will extend to other members of the CSM. The last thing I want is for the CSM to become a cacophonous and unproductive waste of CCP's time, as well as ours
I hardly think you are are in a strong position to lecture about "belligerent compulsions" or "courtesy" after that ridiculous display Bane. Still, I'll do my best to overlook your lack of manners and civilized behaviour in the interest of productive engagement for the CSM should we both be elected. For good or ill Goons are part of the game of Eve now and I guess we've got to make some allowances for different standards of personal interaction.
I'm afraid you may have misinterpreted my statement. As you can see and hear in my interview, my issue was not with your ideas specifically, but with your manner. In discussions on game balance and design, you tend to give the impression that you have no apparent desire to engage in polite discourse. Instead, when your ideas are challenged or even criticized by others, you use ad hominem attacks, you make false assertions, you backpedal, you try to change the subject, you try to redefine the problem to suit your argument (especially in the case of extremely ambiguous problems such as "blobbing"), and, overall, this becomes an intentional sign that you don't respect others who aren't willing to parrot your ideas obediently like you expect.
Since your scuffle on the CSM scrapheap thread (roughly) a month ago, you have become more humble in discussions, which I find very encouraging. However, I am confident that this change would not have occurred without people on scrapheap criticizing your impolite debate tactics. I'm very willing to talk about game balance and design, but if or when you act like a jerk in the discussions and disregard simple common courtesy, don't expect me or any other CSM representative to tolerate it for long.
As for your other questions, please ask them in my CSM thread. My two most difficult final exams are tomorrow, however, so my response may take a little over 24 hours. |

Kelsin
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.15 21:01:00 -
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There's no need to bring personal insult into this campaign.
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.15 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kelsin There's no need to bring personal insult into this campaign.
Well said, and I really mean that. |

Xeserox
Caldari Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.15 22:30:00 -
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part 2 could be considered the goon edition. But they were the only ones that got a hold of me other than Diedra Vaal. All interviews were fun and i'm glad how this came out.
Also, just for note... gou mate... 10 minutes worth of silence, ummms and pauses... We can't leave that in there. thats 10 minutes of silence... and people don't tune in/dl this to listen to silence. Sorry if you weren't happy with it, but it just wasn't cutting the sauce the way it was.
Xeserox - General Manager Eden Underground Radio -Eve Tribune -Eve Cast |

Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.16 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Xeserox part 2 could be considered the goon edition. But they were the only ones that got a hold of me other than Diedra Vaal. All interviews were fun and i'm glad how this came out.
Also, just for note... gou mate... 10 minutes worth of silence, ummms and pauses... We can't leave that in there. thats 10 minutes of silence... and people don't tune in/dl this to listen to silence. Sorry if you weren't happy with it, but it just wasn't cutting the sauce the way it was.
Oh no, i was happy enough with it. Its not like you could have done any better with what I gave you.
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Karn Edge
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.05.16 07:17:00 -
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Yeah sorry about that. I edited out alot of Umms and Silence throughout the interviews and tried my best to make em sound as natural as possible, but yours Gou still came out weird.
Hope you guys are liking these interviews so far. :)
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.16 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Karn Edge If there are any more candidates for the CSM Election that would like to be interviewed, please let us know through evecast (AT) evecast (DOT) com!
This address bounces; please reply to my eve-mail in-game when you can. Cheers.
/Ben
Ben Derindar: Eve CSM candidate
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216 San Matari.
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Posted - 2008.05.16 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Glorious My two most difficult final exams are tomorrow, however, so my response may take a little over 24 hours.
Good luck for the exams.
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