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Garrik Shelt
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Posted - 2004.05.01 05:05:00 -
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Ok, i got my brand new Interceptor a couple days ago, and I decided to insure it today, like i do for all my important ships. And to my suprise, i found that the payout was less than 2.5 million. This is really lame.  This insurance will not even get me half of a new one. A new Crow, the ship i have, is 8.4 million at the cheapest, and I will only get 2.4 for 100% insurance. This is wrong. To me, 100% insurance should be enough to get me a new ship and equipment, and for most ships the insurance will do this. But for some reason, Interceptors are not this way. I have heard that it is because they give you the mineral price of the Interceptor, but for T2 ships, this should be different, plus, how many ppl actually can build their interceptors? Not many i would guess. Something needs to be changed.
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Highway Man
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Posted - 2004.05.01 05:32:00 -
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Thank you insurance for making my game style profitable!
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TimeKeepr
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Posted - 2004.05.01 05:41:00 -
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nothing needs to be changed other than the prices PLAYERS sell the intrceptors for. and frankly, i dont mind that they cost a lot right now, theyll drop eventually.
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Corp None
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Posted - 2004.05.01 05:42:00 -
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Oh how I have been waiting for this :) First of all that ship aint worth what you paid for it! You are like all the other people that paid out the butt for miner II's. You wanted it, you paid for it, you live with it!
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Nuala Reece
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Posted - 2004.05.01 17:29:00 -
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isn't this just a supply and demand thing? As more corps start making interceptors and more people want to buy them the price will fall.
The extra cost is, quite literally, the price we pay for having state of the art equipment.
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Mandros Aslay
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Posted - 2004.05.01 17:52:00 -
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Having lost a skorp to ignorance (no insurance) I think that any insurance repayment is a bonus.
I have a Interceptor and yes the insurance seems lame.
I paid about 5M each for a Crow and a Raptor.
But I could fly a Kestrel. I choose not to.
Maybe I am still ignorant ?
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Tyrenical
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Posted - 2004.05.01 17:52:00 -
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you actually paid 8.4m for a crow???
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2004.05.01 18:18:00 -
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Just because someone makes you pay 8.4mil for an interceptor doesn't mean thats its worth 8.4mil. If at max insurance you will only get 2.5mil then someone somewhere has made a lot of money off you.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.05.01 18:47:00 -
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Hehe it must **** an Elite Frigate / Interceptor pilot off when someone in a rifter blows them up! hehe...
Did it last night, two crows go boom
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.05.03 09:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Garrik Shelt
Ok, i got my brand new Interceptor a couple days ago, and I decided to insure it today, like i do for all my important ships. And to my suprise, i found that the payout was less than 2.5 million. This is really lame.
The minerals standard values are the base for the insurance payout, not the ships price. That great difference between ship price and insurance payout is a sign of too high ship prices. This is not lame, this is economy. Do not buy the good new stuff when you can not afford to lose it.
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Mandros Aslay
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Posted - 2004.05.03 09:57:00 -
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Having just started to collect Minimater and Gallente Ships I can now conclude that Interceptors are not really "worth it ".
Alot of the level 3 frigates provide what I need such as range and speed.
Interceptors are flash and fun.
But invest in a level3 frigate , really go level5 on frig skills , afterburner, mwd and targeting , and gunnery.
Invest the time in skills not money (isk)in an item that will drop in price or be superceded by a cruiser thats shiner.
Invest isk in skills, Time in skills and oh get a top notch clone.
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Anede
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Posted - 2004.05.03 10:07:00 -
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You guys obviously didn't have interceptors when they first came out. The max insurance pay out you could get for ages was around 400k isk. Then they finally fixed it to include the price of the mods used to make it, instead of just the minerals. 2.41 million isk is the base price for a Crow. If you are paying 8.4 million then that is your own fault. You can get them for much cheaper straight from the manufacturers.
As to all the 'interceptors aren't worth it' opinions, that may well be the case for you, but for me they are most definatly worth it.
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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.05.03 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: Garrik Shelt
Ok, i got my brand new Interceptor a couple days ago, and I decided to insure it today, like i do for all my important ships. And to my suprise, i found that the payout was less than 2.5 million. This is really lame. This insurance will not even get me half of a new one. A new Crow, the ship i have, is 8.4 million at the cheapest, and I will only get 2.4 for 100% insurance. This is wrong. To me, 100% insurance should be enough to get me a new ship and equipment, and for most ships the insurance will do this. But for some reason, Interceptors are not this way. I have heard that it is because they give you the mineral price of the Interceptor, but for T2 ships, this should be different, plus, how many ppl actually can build their interceptors? Not many i would guess. Something needs to be changed.
Thats it! Continue to whine and whine. CCP will soon give free 100% insurance for everyone.
GO whiners GO!
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Ulendar
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Posted - 2004.05.03 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Hehe it must **** an Elite Frigate / Interceptor pilot off when someone in a rifter blows them up! hehe...
Did it last night, two crows go boom
Another example of horribly unbalanced ships in this game. Sure you can call me a whiner or whatever for saying that but its just the truth. Cruisemissiles on frigates need to GO and tracking speed on small turrets needs a boost.
The very definition of an interceptor is anti-frigate ship. RIght now interceptors are nothing like frigate killers. Any decent frigate thats nto an interceptor can just wack an interceptor in the same stupid way you wack any frigate with another frigate.
To top off the stupidity of interceptors...some of them dont even have missile slots. How stupid is that. Like oh sure...the 25% bunos to tracking and damage of turrets is going to beat the raw damage of a cruisemissiles...suuure!!
As for the insurance...
You're paying tomuch for your interceptor. Either live with the low insurance payout or DONT BUY AN INTERCEPTOR...
Next thing you know, people will start whining because insurance doesnt cover their nice little modulated tachyons and 1400mm scouts O_o
Originally by: cashman
It's time for Eris to get a clue. CCP should make a statement about this.
It's the exact same things as what Zombie did, you may not attack in "safe-areas" (empire/within sentry range) without loosing your ship.
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Loka on 03/05/2004 11:09:22
If you buy a Tier 2 BS for 140Mil, you platinum insurance will also only be ~105mil. Its your choice to buy a Ceptor, now you know how much it costs to build it. :)
Sorry mate but its the price for which you can buy a new ship which is payed out its the price the ship is worth in minerals. Everybody knows that ceptors are overpriced.
Btw if 4-5 frigate can kill a BS why shouldnt be a ceptor killable by a frigate?
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ulendar
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Hehe it must **** an Elite Frigate / Interceptor pilot off when someone in a rifter blows them up! hehe...
Did it last night, two crows go boom
Another example of horribly unbalanced ships in this game. Sure you can call me a whiner or whatever for saying that but its just the truth. Cruisemissiles on frigates need to GO and tracking speed on small turrets needs a boost.
The very definition of an interceptor is anti-frigate ship. RIght now interceptors are nothing like frigate killers. Any decent frigate thats nto an interceptor can just wack an interceptor in the same stupid way you wack any frigate with another frigate.
To top off the stupidity of interceptors...some of them dont even have missile slots. How stupid is that. Like oh sure...the 25% bunos to tracking and damage of turrets is going to beat the raw damage of a cruisemissiles...suuure!!
As for the insurance...
You're paying tomuch for your interceptor. Either live with the low insurance payout or DONT BUY AN INTERCEPTOR...
Next thing you know, people will start whining because insurance doesnt cover their nice little modulated tachyons and 1400mm scouts O_o
I have been flying frigs over the past 4 days in and 0.0 I have got to say I fear Interceptors MORE than cruisers and BS esp when theres a good pilot like Phenom flying one.
The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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Extravagant
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:18:00 -
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I absolutely love the Crow, but the current prices are outragous!
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:30:00 -
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Turrets can't beat the raw damage of cruise missiles? Well, let's see... I do about 70 damage per second in my Claw (not counting my launcher) and about 95 DPS in my Taranis. Kestrels do what, 4 missiles every 20 seconds? That's about 72 DPS for the Kestrel. Granted the missiles do more damage in the first few seconds, but they aren't a guaranteed kill since they can be dodged or shot down (at least they can in the patches where Defenders aren't bugged )... and a really crazy pilot (like me) might just slap enough armor plates on a Taranis to actually SURVIVE four cruise missiles.
As far as interceptor insurace goes, they SHOULD cost a 2-2.5 million to buy (and about 1-1.5 mil to build), but tech 2 components are way overpriced right now. For all normal ships you can divide the platinum insurance payout by two and get a rough idea of the cost to build the ship (assuming top production skills and standard ore prices). So divide a Crow's payout by two and you should get the ideal build cost.
Still, replacing an uninsured interceptor costs far less than replacing a fully insured battleship (frigate mods are CHEAP, even mid-range named loot) and interceptors are SO much more fun to fly... it's definitely worth the ISK to get one.
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OFFT
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:33:00 -
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Love my Crow too...
But it goes like this :
If you want it cos its there and can afford it easily : Buy it.
If you cant afford too lose it and maybe get 1/2 back on insurance: dont.
If the interceptors werent just bolt on condors and such then the debate would be less I believe....they are too comparable....but most people see the less target , same speed as frigates with mwds, but never mention the low sig radius.....
And that is the point of difference.
Thats what you pay for people.
And availability of course.
Supply and demand influence the price. Insurance percentages should be in line with other ships.
And remember the point of difference is the key to whether its "worth it"
Ps Love my Raptor but dont tell Crow
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Posted - 2004.05.03 11:57:00 -
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Yeah the insurance is coded to the price it is to produce the ship and not on the selling price.
ive yet to sample the delights of a interceptor but will do soonÖ
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