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Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.03.05 20:19:00 -
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The reason is simple. The common (and quite widely accepted) "more risk = more reward" philosophy means that lowsec/nullsec space should have "more reward" in store for people who venture beyond the hisec level 4 missions and hisec incursions and into space where they are seriously at risk of losing ships.
As it stands now, hisec offers more reward than lowsec or nullsec offer because of various ISK faucets available for gross abuse in hisec. There are two ways to go about fixing this:
- Nerf hisec (as those you criticize ask for)
- Buff low/nullsec (as you ask for)
Both would fix the income unbalance problems. However, there are a few arguments for why to do the former rather than the latter. Buffing nullsec would have two effects:
- More ISK gets dumped into the economy, worsening the state of inflation it is already in
- Most of this ISK would be in the hands of nullsec powerblocs, which really don't need new chances to solidify their already too-powerful grip on large swathes of space
Nerfing hisec also fixes the imbalance, while also reducing the amount of ISK flowing into the game (combating inflation), and making low/nullsec more valuable relatively, which provides more incentive to move out to the space not controlled by big blocs.
Also, keep in mind that nerfing hisec does not only impact hisec-only players. Many nullsec players have alts that they use to run missions or incursions -- just because hisec is equally or more profitable than nullsec, at much less risk.
That's the gist of the whole thing, anyway. It's not that nullsec doesn't need rebalancing itself (the moon goo chokepoint is dumb). Also, merely increasing the cause for conflict in 0.0 without increasing rewards causes it to be even more risky, making hisec that much more appealing.
Take a chill pill, give me your stuff, and stop posting angry threads based on raw ignorance.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.03.05 21:42:00 -
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Burseg Sardaukar wrote:Well, I'm going to post this everywhere:
Lowsec dudes (that want to maintain decent sec) have recently been ****** over with a change to the sec-status gain mechanic with rats.
Apparently its "working as intended" that rats now only give the sec increase to whoever gets the final blow on it. So this really fucks over small-gangs working together to rat up sec, when that same gang gets the full hit for killing someone.
Explain how it makes sense that only the finalblow gets sec increase on a rat, but EVERYONE loses sec on a target for killing it?
This needs to the rectified, or at least explained.
Hisec is overrated.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.03.05 22:23:00 -
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Spenser for Hire wrote:Game construction should NOT be used as a means of keeping the size of an Alliance in check.
The problem rests with an alliance from Fountain being able to participate in a fleet battle in Geminate and be back home, all in the span of several hours. "Force projection" is a term you hear tossed around a lot. "Too powerful" the way I expressed it was a bit vague. I meant "powerful enough that you cannot pose even a minor challenge to its fringe assets without being a large power bloc yourself".
If that were solved, and it wouldn't be an impossible effort to get a good foothold in 0.0 I bet more hisec people would be willing to venture out there.
On a different note...
Spenser for Hire wrote:ICE
Why do you yell every time you say "ice"?
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.03.05 22:38:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Still, moving about 30 titans from one end of the empire would be much shorter than the time it takes to wipe out the people trying to take some of your sov, unless you mean to restrict them to a Jump followed by a timer of 24hours or something.
That is one suggestion others have put forward. I am not super-knowledgeable on sov warfare. I just know enough to know it's broken and why, but not enough to suggest balanced fixes.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.03.05 22:47:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:
I was being only half serious, actually.
A certain ~honoureable~ group would protest that it would leave them open to the predations of another group that tends to enjoy the heavy use of subcaps over supercaps.
There is usually a downside to actually committing to deploying a massive capital fleet halfway across the galaxy, yes.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.03.05 22:58:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:I like the way you think.
But titans are balanced by the cost and difficulty of construction. They are perfectly balanced and hotdrops are the sword of a true internet spaceships game knight.
Hotdrops are fine. Being able to turn around immediately and defend because you ran face-first into a diversion is not. Also, instantly traveling a few LY is fine. Traveling from one edge of the galaxy to the other in a few minutes... is not really so.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.03.05 23:12:00 -
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Don't look at me, I'm not an expert on titan battles myself. Right now I'm just trying to acquire a titan so we can have FW frigate hotdrops into plexes or missions to gank unsuspecting Amarr. Or just because we are too lazy to travel the 10 jumps to hostile space.
I am also trying to get my hands on some carriers, so we can jump them in during battles, and every time a fleet member dies, the carrier just poops out a replacement Rifter. INFINITE RIFTER FLEET.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Petrus Blackshell
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:54:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Don't look at me, I'm not an expert on titan battles myself. Right now I'm just trying to acquire a titan so we can have FW frigate hotdrops into plexes or missions to gank unsuspecting Amarr. Or just because we are too lazy to travel the 10 jumps to hostile space.
I am also trying to get my hands on some carriers, so we can jump them in during battles, and every time a fleet member dies, the carrier just poops out a replacement Rifter. INFINITE RIFTER FLEET. Lols! I admire the cut of this man's jib 
I wasn't even kidding, you know. I just happen to be lacking a capital ship character and the several billion ISK I need to pull this off, unfortunately.
Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
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