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Will Hunter
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.19 05:56:00 -
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Edited by: Will Hunter on 19/05/2008 05:56:04 this **** sucks you****
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.19 06:24:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Shin Ra summary?
this confirms my suspicions that you press f5 every minute of every day
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Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: James 315 ...Not everything is about BoB, after all
Then you proceed to drivle on about us for more than 2 posts. You always were a fanboi.
Places at the BBQ are still available.
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Wodanonline
The Last Resort.
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Posted - 2008.05.19 08:41:00 -
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the guy claims to be "completely objective" while being a member of noobswarm what did you expect.
next time use a alt ppl might actually believe you.
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Consultant
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Posted - 2008.05.19 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: James 315 but I am unbiased because rather than speaking from a "perspective," I simply tell it like it is.
Aaaaaaaaaaaand here everything fell apart.
Thanks for playing though. Better luck next time.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.05.19 08:46:00 -
[96]
Faggot alt above is me. CCP please fix the fuking forums. Kthxbai
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Tiirae
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.05.19 08:57:00 -
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The tongue-in-cheek introduction about objectivity and the hilarious idea that somebody would actually enquire after James' opinion on anything was good. My interest was piqued, so I read the rest.
What followed was several dozen paragraphs of flabby waffle. It read like the droning monotone of a high-school student explaining his science-fair exhibit.
To be worth reading, you must either have an interesting story to tell, or a compelling way to tell it. This post had neither.
Pretty much sums up the goon's impact on the game in 2008; Thread fails to deliver, much like the alliance.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.05.19 09:01:00 -
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Every self-important alt thinks the OP posted 7 pages of fail and all Goons should stop posting now.
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The Jugganaut
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Posted - 2008.05.19 09:14:00 -
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Unbiased my ass!
How can you call yourself unbiased when you're associated with Goonswarm? Rediculous!
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Lee Wai
Virulence. Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.19 09:15:00 -
[100]
The above was me!! ******* forum! --Sig--
Yaarrr them be fighting words matey! |

Griever Takkow
Finis Lumen Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.19 10:00:00 -
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<snore> <snooo Wait what huba habaa> <blinks> heard you lost a titan?
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xBlood
Anoint Anarchy.
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Posted - 2008.05.19 10:03:00 -
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Ok...I finally read it.
I've never heard a bunch of biased **** quite on the same scale.
The only thing I agree with here is that Minas/Mynas/however you spell his name was used as a scapegoat by much of MC. Figureheads who make hard choices are never popular. Anoint Recruitment |

Play Dead
Altruism. Malice.
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Posted - 2008.05.19 10:51:00 -
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tl;dr version
I'm a Goon, who's unbiased towards BoB (though I spend an inordinate amount of time staring at pictures of BoB members and how sexy and sleek they actually are). I'm going to write to you, about writing a eulogy (which might have been interesting if I didn't go off on a childish tangent for 18 paragraphs about how awesome I am). This post is mainly meant to generate a thread long and distorted enough to take public eye off the fact that my alliance, which is of course utterly awesome and in every way superior to BoB, lost a titan in a completely unremarkable way. This is really just another childish slight of hand, much like spamming our killboard with fake killmails, in an effort to make ourselves feel better about how serious we've become over internet spaceships and yet how poorly we manage our actions as a group. Bla bla bla, MC sucks, personal attacks against Seleene and SirMolle, more self-adulation, GoonSwarm is awesome, we kill Titans not lose them.
I think I covered everything.
P.S. Did I mention I'm awesome?
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Danari
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:18:00 -
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Even the executive summary's too long :O
fi;dc (**** it, don't care)
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:24:00 -
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Good quality rhetoric. For people who actually did read your post, James, go easy on the "I am the invisible mastermind" and a bit more on the analysis, but considering you've carved out your own niche for this kind of thing, I think that can be a little forgiven.
The irony you highlighted of MC's decisions achieving their neutrality and them being caught up short by it is delicious, and thank you for providing an interesting read, with the above proviso.
As an asside, and as I've said before, a stronger move for tortuga would have been in north querious. Period basis is a deep, deep hole to hide where nothing happens. The A2-, ED- etc area could have been a very solid area for them to fortify, should they have wished - close to home targets, empire and low-sec a hairs-breadth away, no trouble with logistics. In addition, they could have taken on board anything worth salvaging from Fix. If I remember correctly, Fix also had split loyalties at the time.. All that remains now is "What could have been".
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Am Sar
Gallente The Space Janitors
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:31:00 -
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The Goons want to be the joke of EVE.
...heck, they are good at it.
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Iroku Mata
Minmatar Endovelicus Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Leech
Well if that's the case why do you write like a 14 year old? You really should go back to sniffing glue on the street corner.
What¦s your problem pseudo-Professor Leech? You are making one of "the inteligent one"? I¦m a "special-one", or are you thinking all intelectual and scientific world is in USA or UK? Dont need to talk english to rule my world, aswell I can understand 5 languages and speak, reading, and writing perfectly 2 of them, english is obviously not under that 2.
Now, STFU and enjoy the entertainment that I enjoy 4 years now.
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Dray
Caldari Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:55:00 -
[108]
We really need a clinic to be setup to treat people afflicted with the terrible malady "Jade Constantine-itis".
This terrible malady has 4 major symptons.
1. Glass Stomach. (basically with your head stuck up your own @rse you need a glass stomach to see where your going). 2. The ability to use 20 words where only 1 would be necessary. 3. The complete and utter belief you're completely unbiased and objective with your subject matter. 4. The ability to talk the black off Mugabe.
The last symptom was provided by Evil Edna, his research in the field of sharp one liners was very important in helping find and confirm sufferers of "Jade Constantine-itis".
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Uuve Savisaalo
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.05.19 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 19/05/2008 12:15:47 does everyone reading these forums suffer some form of attention-deficit disorder?
more than half of the replies read like something out of Mike Judge's 'idiocracy', where a person speaking in regular, complete sentences is accused of 'talking like a f@g'
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.19 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dray 3. The complete and utter belief you're completely unbiased and objective with your subject matter.
Wouldn't be me then, I'm totally-biased. 
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |

Habraka
Canes Pugnaces
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Posted - 2008.05.19 13:48:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo
does everyone reading these forums suffer some form of attention-deficit disorder?
Almost everyone, yes. Most people probably didn't read the OP, so they try and look 'leet' posting tl;dr.
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Der Pfaffe
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.19 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Habraka
Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo
does everyone reading these forums suffer some form of attention-deficit disorder?
Almost everyone, yes. Most people probably didn't read the OP, so they try and look 'leet' posting tl;dr.
I read it all before I posted. Still didn't change that fact that it's a load of biased uninformed bollix...
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.19 15:52:00 -
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It was an okay post on balance. Obviously spiced with propaganda and biased in its own interest but was better than the usual CAOD diet. Interesting really in the subtle undertone of desperation from the goonswarm perspective if you read between the lines. I'd give it a 6/10 and would probably read again.
CSM Manifesto 2008 | Destroy Outposts! |

KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.19 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Habraka Almost everyone, yes. Most people probably didn't read the OP, so they try and look 'leet' posting tl;dr.
Actually most people probably read it, then posted tl;dr in an attemp to look clever.
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thoth foc
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.19 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Habraka Almost everyone, yes. Most people probably didn't read the OP, so they try and look 'leet' posting tl;dr.
Actually most people probably read it, then posted tl;dr in an attemp to look clever.
I'd go with, most ppl got through the 1st post(s) and got bored.. ------------------ x-DSMA (Menta) x-CA (OMEGA/BOS) x-.5.(ATUK) BOB (DICE) |

BillyBong2
Amarr COLD-Wing The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.05.19 16:50:00 -
[116]
Nice read and I did read the entire thing 
http://coldwing.100luz.com.ar/board/ |

Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.05.19 18:35:00 -
[117]
James... JAAAAMEEES.....
shut up! Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Kyle Frost
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.19 18:35:00 -
[118]
Originally by: EnacheV1
Originally by: James 315
Given the level of esteem in which I am held by the Eve community
Clown 
Pure win ! Thread over 
P.S. "The level of esteem in which i am..." muhahhahahahahaaa !!! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahaha Hey Mister High Esteem - i want to see the cannonball man ! Please ?!  ------
Let the gun do the talking... |

Orree
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.05.19 18:51:00 -
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Fairly entertaining read...beats the hell out of most of the drivel that gets posted here, whether you agree with it or not.
I actually re-read one of the earlier threads linked within it and came across something that would have been interesting to watch had it happened...
http://eve-search.com/thread/537551/page/all#151
"How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |

PR0PAGANDA
Gallente Raging Emo
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Posted - 2008.05.19 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: James 315 But the MC took no joy in its impending victory. Instead, all it was capable of experiencing was fear. They knew that their previous loyalty to BoB had earned them many enemies among the Coalition. Goons openly spoke of how they would destroy the MC once BoB was gone. And everyone knew Evil Thug thirsted for MC blood. With each Coalition success, the MC grew more concerned about what would happen after BoB died.
At once, the MC realized how foolish the "Tortugan" plan to secure Period Basis was. The YACAODI1MAC plan would have them go up north and secure space of their own, while Seleene's plan was to remain in service to BoB forever. Tortuga was a compromise plan with all of the perils of staying in the south and none of the advantages of going north. No matter what happened in the GWoPRAtEToBoB, the MC would be surrounded by its enemies. Now BoB, which had once ruled over the MC, became a necessary buffer between the Coalition and the MC.
The MC became consumed by cowardice once more. It did the unthinkable. It switched sides. Again.
The MC informed leaders of the Coalition that it would not take part in the multiple-front attack against Delve, only minutes before it was scheduled to take place. The MC crawled back to BoB on its belly and attacked the Coalition, hoping to prove that it could be loyal to BoB once again. To the MC's utter amazement, SirMolle informed them that they had doomed themselves to destruction with their first betrayal. It was the only logical response: Period Basis had always been one of BoB's core regions.
Once losing the capacity to launch multiple-front invasions of Delve, the Coalition could not prevent BoB from packing target systems with titans, recreating Titan Online and preventing the front from advancing. Once again, the MC was gripped by terror: what if BoB pushed southward? The MC, after betraying both the Coalition and BoB, did what was now thinkable (only for them): they switched sides yet again. But deep down, the MC knew they had placed themselves in an impossible position, and they lacked the heart to continue fighting BoB. Besides, they could not realistically count on the trust of the Coalition after so much side-hopping.
The Mercenary Coalition had no true friends, and it had enemies on every side. In the irony of ironies, the Mercenary Coalition had truly become what it had always pretended to be: neutral. The MC no doubt could have continued, but this would have required a sliver of courage and independence.
The Mercenary Coalition became a neutral coalition of mercenaries. Finding such a state bizarre and intolerable, Seleene had the alliance commit ritual suicide and close its doors.
While I criticized Seleene's eulogy of the MC, it was oddly appropriate. By making a vain attempt to prostrate himself before BoB, Seleene ensured that the MC would die as it had lived: in abject cowardice.
As for the north? As YACAODI1MAC prophesied, the destinies of the MC and Triumvirate were intertwined. By making the wrong decision and moving south, the MC deprived Triumvirate of the powerful ally it needed to survive and conquer the north. Just days after the MC closed its doors, Triumvirate, heralded by so many as the next great power, closed its own.
And what of the "Mynas factor," the remnant of the "greed" and independent spirit that smoldered in the MC, suppressed beneath the cowardly leadership of the alliance? Will they find themselves wandering into the northern reaches of space, looking for the homeland that Seleene denied them so long ago? Will they act as the seeds of a great new northern empire that existed only in an alternate path of history?
Perhaps. But that is a story, my dear CAOD reader, that must wait to be told another day.
- 315
in one of your other novels didnt you say bob was going to die to the goons and give a discription of how and why?
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