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Astronemo	Posted - 2008.05.19 20:26:00 - [1] these guys will say they are running a vote etc, ask for your money and then right before the war is supposed to become active they pull out and say your an alt of the opposition even if your already at war with them and they then just tell you to **** off and dont refund your money! THEY ARE REALLY REALLY DODGY! DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THEM! Pm me in game for anymore info!
Julien makka The Mutineers	Posted - 2008.05.19 20:59:00 - [2] you lied on several occasions. the whole war was a setup to get easy kills.
mastergamer Caldari The Mutineers	Posted - 2008.05.19 21:00:00 - [3] Try not lying next time, mkay?
Alpha Dog	Posted - 2008.05.19 21:08:00 - [4] Complete lies. Muts work fast, get the job done cheaply and effectively. I needed assistance with 3 war decs and Muts ran into some large ****talking while helping our empire war effort. This is merely the local smack coming into forums to damage the muts, but it's a sign they have destroyed our enemy quite thoroughly.
Galliana Foresta Gallente Fleeting Moments of Insanity	Posted - 2008.05.19 21:44:00 - [5] Originally by: Alpha Dog Complete lies. Muts work fast, get the job done cheaply and effectively. I needed assistance with 3 war decs and Muts ran into some large ***talking while helping our empire war effort. This is merely the local smack coming into forums to damage the muts, but it's a sign they have destroyed our enemy quite thoroughly. Ohai. FMI was one of the wardecs MUTS was hired to help with and I'd like to offer my opinion. It's important to remember that it is exactly that, though - opinion.* Never before have I had the misfortune of being camped by such a gaggle of smacktards in all my life, and as for destroying your enemies quite thoroughly... well, I think our killboard speaks for itself. The only loss we suffered was an afk Falcon kill who was spotted before he cloaked and went wandering off to talk to a "girl". Way to big yourselves up, dude. HIRING\|KB\|PRESS
Julien makka The Mutineers	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:05:00 - [6] We made them dock for a week. With the boredom came the smack eventually, had a good laugh :)
kickass50	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:07:00 - [7] I hired them to help me with a nasty pirate corp they did a very good job better than I hopped for concereding the pirates stayed docked or hidden by their mothership.
Kristoffer Amarr Invicta.	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:12:00 - [8] Edited by: Kristoffer on 19/05/2008 22:14:50 Mutineers... Do recommend. They wardec'd us a week ago and didn't even make us waste money on ammo because they never even showed up.
Ithaca Gallente Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:14:00 - [9] If its true you haven't refunded the isk, no matter the reason, that's extremely bad business practice. Being a merc is hard enough now with so many corps around, hence why we decided to do something different, that to even remotely look to add tarnish to your reputation is not a very good idea.
Astronemo	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:29:00 - [10] Ithaka and anyone else i can confirm and will provide a screenshot of my wallet about the fact that these ******s stole my money! they have not refunded me at all and as far as i am concerned this was a setup from their part! If you wish to check any which way you can to prove that i am not an alt of the corp i asked you to go after then go ahead. If there is anything i can cprovide anyone thinking about using them to prove they are scammers please tell me! They even tried to tell me they had refunded the money! The CEO told me to Fk off Ed something or other! I will Be making several continuous posts in regards to this until all monies (58million) is returned. I want people to know that this corp WILL steal your money without hesitating!

Julien makka The Mutineers	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:32:00 - [11] Cheap 50 mil dec and you complain after you try to set us up. Checked the "intel" you sent us, and there were more lies than there were truths.
xenoin The Mutineers	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:35:00 - [12] Mate, please shrink the size of your head. There are easier ways to make 58 million ISK. Our reasons for cancelling this contract were clearly stated. Bringing this to a public forum is a futile attempt to tarnish our reputation.
3yeb4ll The Mutineers	Posted - 2008.05.19 22:37:00 - [13] Edited by: 3yeb4ll on 19/05/2008 22:37:29 Quote: Ithaka and anyone else i can confirm and will provide a screenshot of my wallet about the fact that these ******s stole my money! they have not refunded me at all and as far as i am concerned this was a setup from their part! If you wish to check any which way you can to prove that i am not an alt of the corp i asked you to go after then go ahead. If there is anything i can cprovide anyone thinking about using them to prove they are scammers please tell me! They even tried to tell me they had refunded the money! The CEO told me to Fk off Ed something or other! I will Be making several continuous posts in regards to this until all monies (58million) is returned. I want people to know that this corp WILL steal your money without hesitating! Both you and we know that you were trying to set up some kind of "cunning plan". Sadly, your plan wasn't that cunning, and we happily took your 58m knowing full well what you were trying to do. We do have some intelligence abilities, thank you very much. Better luck next time. I mean - did you seriously expect us to believe your rubbish? Even your character picture looks stupid.
The Stampede	Posted - 2008.05.20 00:13:00 - [14] Contract was authentic. It's unfortunate, though, I thought the price was a pretty good deal, considering. It's even more unfortunate you attempt to use alts and friends/spies to blow off the real truth, which is, you're a dishonorable merc corp. Your intel must be comprised of a bunch of monkeys throwing ***** at a wall and analyzing its color if you determined he is trying to get "easy kills". As far as "local smack making it onto the forums...", lol...lol. It's not too bad though, I paid him back for your fail. Now he knows what shoddy contractors to avoid.
Phillipx	Posted - 2008.05.20 00:33:00 - [15] I supplied the intel and it is of the highest caliber. Days of cloaking and watching is what it took to ascertain their makeup. I had ships skill points even what was loaded on some of them. I even know thier alts and allies. Wanna knock my intel go for it. It was all true and all real.
Astronemo	Posted - 2008.05.20 00:35:00 - [16] Well i have not as of yet recieved a refund for the monies paid but as they have said they have taken my money well that kinda tells you wat type of corp they really are! if they actually took a look into the intel they were given theyd realise that it was all true! http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1009140 is a link to a kill they we did manage to make which as you will see all "The Mutineers" corp members that the intel was correct! Well as The Stampede said he has paid me for this although it is still not fair for a corp to take the money without fulfilling the contract made between myself and them. Well all i can now say is EVERYONE BEWARE because as you can read above they wont hesitate to take your money and start saying that your scamming them. Hopefully any prospective business will think twice! Oh and to all those who do need a merc corp go and try VENGEANCE IMPERIUM. They charge more but do actually do their job. I had dealings with them and they definately fullfil their contracts!
Augustus Richter Black Nova Syndicate	Posted - 2008.05.20 01:51:00 - [17] Edited by: Augustus Richter on 20/05/2008 01:52:38 If anyone is interested... One of MUTT's last war dec's was vs Black Nova Syndicate, who was at war with New Eden Regimental Navy. For us, this is how it went. 1. We formed New Merc corp, started war with NERN. 2. NERN smack talks 2x pilots and tries to blob, gains early recon kill via dubious tactic* 3. Few more join BNS, 13 max in corp, we turn tide vs NERN, NERN gets raped even when they outnumber us 2 to 1. 4. MUTT's shows up, war dec'd with NERN for a whole 24hrs, to "cover" bringing in ships and gear. 5. MUTT's attempts to teach, guide, or whatever NERN, NERN losses again in a 2 to 1 fight their advantage. 6. MUTT's start smack talking 7. Now us in 3 war dec's total enemy numbers over 50, us with 13... move our base 2 jumps away to low sec. 8. MUTT's generally won't enter low sec (something about scary capitals) 9. BNS takes a few loses as we continue our war against NERN. 10. BNS attacks NERN's low sec Faction POS with all Faction gear, MUTTS does nothing. 11. BNS continues to kill NERN, at there POS, evening steal faction gear off it as they pull it down. 12. NERN calls in 15-20 man gang from Imperium Technologies (140+ 0.0 corp) to cover their POS take down, NO MUTT's insight. Results Mutts vs BNS 5kills vs 2kills NERN vs BNS 2kills vs 22 kills Over all cost BNS inflicted 1.096 bil in damages and forced removal of ISK producing faction low sec pos MUTT inflicted 355 mil in damages NERN inflicted 267 mil in damages CRUSADER inflicted 0 mil in damages (Most abandoned the corp) Remember outnumbered, with a supposed merc corp at war with us and this is all they could do to a newly formed (2 weeks) Merc corp. All these guys do is smacktalk, won't fight unless they heavily outnumber their oponent. Sure they'll whine and cry, "oh they docked up" 5-10 vs 1 ... what would a normal person do, but when it was 7 vs 10 they hugged stations like a child to it's mommy. Towards the end as it became clearer BNS and FMI did fly together in one very succesful engagement. FMI are classy, and professional. * Dubious NERN tactic, During an engangment, I via an alt took on 3 NERN (1 BS, 1 BC, 1 Cruiser) with a Pilgrim, in which I successfully destroyed the Cruiser. Alas Alpha Dog (Not in NERN) shows up in a crow and MWD's out to me, locks me then all of a sudden starts scrambling me... I think "well CONCORD is coming..." wait.. no... seems with the new corp mechanics he is accepted back into NERN as he has me locked and then engages... tackles and Raven warps on me... boom. Back in the old days, you had to be docked to be accepted into a corp, thank you CCP for allowing this in the game. Augustus Richter BNS Co-CEO
angient Doom Generation Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.05.20 03:30:00 - [18] I wouldnt trust them with my isk. Not that they could get the job done anyway...
Hennry Fromer radiated space gerbils Shadow Donkeys	Posted - 2008.05.20 03:58:00 - [19] Originally by: Augustus Richter Back in the old days, you had to be docked to be accepted into a corp, thank you CCP for allowing this in the game. CCP had to change it , you just cant dock those supercaps.
Augustus Richter Black Nova Syndicate	Posted - 2008.05.20 05:03:00 - [20] So if you don't have to dock to be accepted into a corp because of the horde of supercapitals... How do you apply...? Last I knew you still have to dock to do that... so might want to check the logic???

Zangert Joint Strike Squad	Posted - 2008.05.20 05:26:00 - [21] In a side note, you're warning people not to trust a group who call themselves "mutineers"?
Julien makka The Mutineers	Posted - 2008.05.20 06:46:00 - [22] Edited by: Julien makka on 20/05/2008 06:51:01 Originally by: Augustus Richter Back in the old days, you had to be docked to be accepted into a corp, thank you CCP for allowing this in the game. hypocrite much? You whined and docked when even we camped you, in your low-sec home system, in every surrounding high-sec system, whatever. You only came out to fight when you outnumbered us 2 : 1 and we still won. It was us on the outside of the station mate. Funny youve got such a big mouth now on after the war is over. As for the nern losses, they were inflicted before we were hired, and when we werent online. (euro corp, cant always be awake sorry)
Majuan Shuo Vigilante inc.	Posted - 2008.05.20 07:42:00 - [23] You're bad and you should feel bad! Pandas. q-"WELL WHAT ABOUT THE PIRATE CODE!?" a-"well actually... they're more like guidelines.."
Evv Lushon	Posted - 2008.05.20 08:40:00 - [24] Originally by: Julien makka Edited by: Julien makka on 20/05/2008 06:58:40 Originally by: Augustus Richter stuff You whined and docked when even we camped you, in your low-sec home system, in every surrounding high-sec system, whatever. You only came out to fight when you outnumbered us 2 : 1 and we still won. Funny youve got such a big mouth now after the war is over. As for the nern losses, they were inflicted before we were hired, and when we werent online. (euro corp, cant always be awake sorry) I do not approve of your attitude, mister! You Fail.
Dihania Gallente Mucho Dolor	Posted - 2008.05.20 08:59:00 - [25] For a merc rep is most important. Yours just got a stain on it.... . I need isk! Accepting donations :)
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:07:00 - [26] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 20/05/2008 10:13:02 Originally by: xenoin Mate, please shrink the size of your head. There are easier ways to make 58 million ISK. Our reasons for cancelling this contract were clearly stated. Bringing this to a public forum is a futile attempt to tarnish our reputation. You are all ex-RAK, i think that speaks volumes about reputation. RAK was famous for not honoring ransoms of any kind, for again and again showing the fact that the concept of 'honor' in a online game is stupid ... why would anyone trust you ?
Krij	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:11:00 - [27] I doubt you'll see any of your ISK again. Personally, I'd hire a real merc corp to take them out. Most real merc corps are very familiar with the Racketeers err I mean Mutineers...
NightmareX Quam Singulari	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:17:00 - [28] Using caps lock in the subject text doesn't make you any special.
Bobby Brimstone Minmatar The Mutineers	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:30:00 - [29] Majuan Shuo, Evv Lushon, Dihania- who in blazes are you three muppets? Some regional monkeys who thought they'd "Pitch in"? Do you know who we are? Or who any of these other guys are? Your opinions are noted, now go put your "$0.02" in some other thread. You think we don't KNOW that a bad rep will hurt us in the end? This guy was trying to screw us, and got screwed in return. There you go, job done. And by the way Astronemo, after slagging us off on the forums, we STILL won't refund your money. Strange how that works, isn't it? Even after some other guy refunded you. You nasty little boy, you! Anyway, our previous client NERN was very pleased with us, as you can see here /right here in this thread/. BNS: We're a highsec corp. A ****ton of wt's docked up for a week was what they needed. Unfortunately that meant that you and Fleeting were the most boring wartargets we've had. Ever. Fleeting: You cought us with our pants around our ankles. Fair play. The rest of the week you were docked up, though- contract fulfilled, however tediously boring it was. Next. Invicta: Yeah. Sorry about that. Something complicated was supposed to happen, but apparently the dude who hired us never showed. We won the war, though, thanks to Julien :P And yes. We're EX-RAK. --EX-- RAK. Also, RAK is ex, we killed them. Say nuff? And no, honour doesn't exist in an internet spaceship game. But we won't get paid if we screw clients for no reason, will we? Apparently, even if we HAVE a reason, people will just believe whatever nonsense is spouted here on the forums.
Krij	Posted - 2008.05.20 10:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Bobby Brimstone Do you know who we are? And yes. We're EX-RAK. --EX-- RAK. Also, RAK is ex, we killed them. Say nuff? Hahaha don't you know who we are? Classic Roman Emperor syndrome, I'm a celebrity quote right there! The royalty of Eve speaks! Can you explain how ex CEO and founder of Racketeers Freddy Jnr is now in Mutineers then? Killing RAK was a poor publicity stunt to inflate your ego as "mercs" I presume. I suspect RAK is being kept open by one of your alts so you guys can corp hop if you take on more than you can chew. Good luck in the industry.



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