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Alowishus
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Posted - 2008.05.20 16:13:00 -
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I haven't been able to find a thread about this. It seems that since the Apoc changes the ship has become a formidable fleet BS. I guess my Amarr BS 5/Large Energy 5 has some value after all.
So what setups do people run? Here's what I came up with at first glance.
[Apocalypse, snipe_mwd] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Mega Beam Laser II, Aurora L Mega Beam Laser II, Aurora L Mega Beam Laser II, Aurora L Mega Beam Laser II, Aurora L Mega Beam Laser II, Aurora L Mega Beam Laser II, Aurora L Mega Beam Laser II, Aurora L Mega Beam Laser II, Aurora L
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
I chose not to use rigs but if I did they'd probably either be Trimarks or CCCs. For drones, at range, I guess I'd use armor maintenance bots between engagements.
Discuss.
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Daerkannon Shimmerscale
Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.20 16:55:00 -
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Pretty similar to what I came up with. In my setup I drop the second PDS II for a 1600mm rolled tungsten plate and the ANP II for a tracking enhancer. I end up with 3 sensor boosters in the mids.
It's very tight on grid and CPU and you need great skills and/or implants to fit it. Swapping the sensor boosters to F-90's and replacing the PDS with an RCU can help.
There are tachyon fits out there that some people like, but are generally either more expensive (e.g. require rigs or expensive named modules like the internal force field) or lack the same DPS (only 2 HS + tachs is worse than megabeams and 3 HS). Only reason I would consider tachs on this ship is for their superior alpha strike. --- Honest officer, the dwarf was on fire when I got here! Can't find a mechanical engineering agent? Need a non-Caldari Navy agent? http://www.eve-agents.com/ for all your agent needs! |
Alowishus
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:01:00 -
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I need a setup that works without rigs, at least initially.
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Asestorian
Domination. Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.20 17:22:00 -
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I think the following works quite well.
[Apocalypse, New Sniping] Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Reactor Control Unit II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Sensor Booster II, Targeting Speed
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L [empty high slot]
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hammerhead II x5 Warrior II x5
It has a 188km Optimal range with Aurora, and does 345 dps running for about 5 minutes with maximum cap skills. It's not ridiculously expensive either.
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Izumein
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.21 06:12:00 -
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If you want it without rigs you'll have to drop the neut and change to an RCU. With this fit the named PDS is required, there's not CPU to fit a different meta.
[Apocalypse, Sniper] Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Aurora L Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Ancillary Current Router I Low Friction Nozzle Joints I Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Warrior II x5 Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x5
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Andreask14
Raptus Regaliter Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.21 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Izumein If you want it without rigs you'll have to drop the neut and change to an RCU. With this fit the named PDS is required, there's not CPU to fit a different meta.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.05.21 07:43:00 -
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If you need some extra cap why not fit a CPR, uses less cpu than a PDU?
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Rutefly
Amarr Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2008.05.21 08:03:00 -
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Ofcourse 3 heatsinks is valid, it is about taste wether or not to sacrifice a low on that third one if theres fit/cap issues that limits the setup otherwise. Stick with 2 maybe and see if you can fit more/better other-stuffs.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas
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Posted - 2008.05.21 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz If you need some extra cap why not fit a CPR, uses less cpu than a PDU?
It's about the pg bonus, not the cap.
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Naridos
Caldari IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.21 10:53:00 -
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Edited by: Naridos on 21/05/2008 10:53:36 Here is my setup.
7x Tachyon Beam Laser IIs **1x Improved Cloaking Device
2x Sensor Booster IIs 2x Tracking Computer IIs
2x Cap Power Relay IIs 3x Heat Sink IIs 2x Tracking Enhancer IIs
2x Ancillary Current Router I 1x Energy Collision Accelerator I
**Works pretty well and if you really want to, you can even slap on an Improved Cloaking Device II on there in case things get hairy but the only problem with that is you seriously nerf your locking speed.
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Lord WarATron
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.21 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 21/05/2008 11:41:19
Originally by: Naridos Edited by: Naridos on 21/05/2008 10:53:36 Here is my setup.
7x Tachyon Beam Laser IIs **1x Improved Cloaking Device
2x Sensor Booster IIs 2x Tracking Computer IIs
2x Cap Power Relay IIs 3x Heat Sink IIs 2x Tracking Enhancer IIs
2x Ancillary Current Router I 1x Energy Collision Accelerator I
**Works pretty well and if you really want to, you can even slap on an Improved Cloaking Device II on there in case things get hairy but the only problem with that is you seriously nerf your locking speed.
You need 2 ACR for a non-mwd 7 tach Apoc?
Also, Snipers with cloak is really really bad. There is a reason why all the top pvp corps in the game currently do not use it.
Some hints
1. You need DD tank if you are in 0.0 2. MWD 3. 160km optimal Range, which is a non issue for Tach/aurora pilots. 4. Allow 30-40km range for aligning on top of your optmal as you mwd out of bubbles or aligning 5. Have drones to deal with the lone inty pilot that scrambles you. ECMs drones/Lights are handy
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Imaos
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Posted - 2008.05.21 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 21/05/2008 11:41:19
Originally by: Naridos Edited by: Naridos on 21/05/2008 10:53:36 Here is my setup.
7x Tachyon Beam Laser IIs **1x Improved Cloaking Device
2x Sensor Booster IIs 2x Tracking Computer IIs
2x Cap Power Relay IIs 3x Heat Sink IIs 2x Tracking Enhancer IIs
2x Ancillary Current Router I 1x Energy Collision Accelerator I
**Works pretty well and if you really want to, you can even slap on an Improved Cloaking Device II on there in case things get hairy but the only problem with that is you seriously nerf your locking speed.
You need 2 ACR for a non-mwd 7 tach Apoc?
Marked the line why 2 ACR are needed.
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Originally by: NoNah
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Keta Min
LEGI0N F.E.A.R Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.21 13:40:00 -
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sigh..
8 t2 tachs, mwd, 2 SB II, med cap booster with 800s for long time tach shooting and always being able to pulse mwd. 2 RCU IIs, 1600 plate, dcu, 3 heat sinks. trimarks
needs cpu implant.
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Arvald
The School 0f Fine Arts
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Posted - 2008.05.21 14:13:00 -
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[Apocalypse 2, tach] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II
F-12 Nonlinear Tracking Processor, Optimal Range F-12 Nonlinear Tracking Processor, Optimal Range Prototype I Sensor Booster, Targeting Range Prototype I Sensor Booster, Targeting Range
Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Modulated Energy Beam I, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L
Ancillary Current Router I Ancillary Current Router I Semiconductor Memory Cell I
my favorite fleetsniper, also good a pos seiges if you have logistic support
Originally by: Liang Nuren
There are no dangerous ships, there are dangerous people. IIRC, you are one of them.
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Izumein
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.21 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Izumein on 21/05/2008 15:23:27
Originally by: Andreask14
FFS, dont leak our secret plans to the enemy.
Ignoring the fact that anybody who cares already has it?
Anyway, look closer, this is MY fit. It's very close to a fit off of the SHC board by Waagaa, where anybody who's seriously looking for good fits would browse. I liked it quite a lot and then modded it to keep the same spirit, but add the neut.
And yes, the PDS is about grid not cap, I wouldn't want to have to add a 2nd ACR. It's just a double benefit that you get some cap. But fact is, the way it's setup, it's a very tight fit, requiring AWU 5 and leaving just over 1 CPU at max skills, just under with mine. You could remove the neut or a 3rd Heat Sink to play with the fit, but I wanted both.
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