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DHB WildCat
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Posted - 2008.05.21 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: DHB WildCat on 21/05/2008 02:24:07
No idea if this will really work, but I thought I would throw this out there.
Highs -
4 Siege Launcher T2
4 800 Autocannon T2
Mids-
2 Invulnerability Field T2
2 Large Shield Extender T2
Lows -
7 Shield Power Relays
Rigs - Field Purgers
With Drones, does about 1000dps.
Shield recharge rate of 260/sec, better than a vultures.
Anyhow thats my shield phoon
WildCat
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
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Posted - 2008.05.21 02:22:00 -
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I'm sorry, but I don't read orange.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.05.21 02:23:00 -
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 Originally by: DubanFP
I'm sorry, but I don't read orange.
Thats okay I know its not for everyone.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.05.21 02:34:00 -
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this would have been a better thread if it was about the panther
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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2008.05.21 02:56:00 -
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AC boat w/o a MWD? Brave man.
Setup keeping high slots:
Medium:
MWD II
SB II w/ targeting speed script
web
Target painter
Low:
EANM II x 3
DC II
1600 Tungsten x 3
Trimark Pump I x 3
Same DPS. 34.3k in armor. 1208m/s. Cheap, cheap, cheap.
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Titan Pilot
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.21 03:37:00 -
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And just think an Arazu with AB can outrun you. And with your 25k range, your pretty much screwed when his friend in a Rapier shows up.
The setup above me is about the only reasonable use of the Phoon nowadays. Sad but true.
Where do you come up with these silly ideas? Just fly your Raven already...
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Ecky X
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.05.21 05:38:00 -
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"Out of the box" indeed. I was expecting something interesting. Instead, it's an ewar-less, tackle-less, damagemod-less, moderately tanked BS that can't close range to do its DPS, and caps itself out running shield hardeners.
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Wideen
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.21 06:09:00 -
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I don't wanna share my setup because EVE doesn't need another I-win 
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.05.21 06:30:00 -
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Without MWD, plates/DCU would be more effective in amount you can tank + you get 4 mid slots for whatever you want.
Actually, the Maelstrom with 6 shield tanking mods + 3 rigs can tank near 1000 dps (and can hold lots of 800s) Close to the same DPS as your typhoon since Maelstrom can happily fit 3x Gyro IIs
Originally by: CCP Casqade
Please refrain from making assumptions on game mechanics and then presenting them as facts before testing them yourself.
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slothe
Caldari
Murky Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.21 06:40:00 -
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unless your dropped on the target which then doesnt run away it fails without mwd.
see scrapheap challenge tbh, setups much more informed there than here
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Sidewayzracer
Caldari
Murder Training Facilites
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Posted - 2008.05.21 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
Edited by: DHB WildCat on 21/05/2008 02:24:07
No idea if this will really work, but I thought I would throw this out there.
Highs -
4 Siege Launcher T2
4 800 Autocannon T2
Mids-
2 Invulnerability Field T2
2 Large Shield Extender T2
Lows -
7 Shield Power Relays
Rigs - Field Purgers
With Drones, does about 1000dps.
Shield recharge rate of 260/sec, better than a vultures.
Anyhow thats my shield phoon
WildCat
it sux tbh
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Lego Maniac
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.21 07:00:00 -
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[Typhoon, gankphoon]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Large Graviton Smartbomb I /OFFLINE
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Inferno Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Inferno Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Inferno Torpedo
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Inferno Torpedo
Egress Port Maximizer I
Egress Port Maximizer I
Egress Port Maximizer I
Ogre I x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
gankphoon is a misnomer, but rather I pieced this together with soloing as well as gang support capabilities in mind
the best named nos/neut has same operational stats as their T2 counterparts, but are significantly easier to fit
note that I can't use T2 torps yet (or T2 heavies for that matter), but there is not enough CPU to fit 4 siege IIs anyways; the offlined large smarty is there to absorb heat
as a bonus, this is a fairly economical setup
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Delichon
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.05.21 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
Edited by: DHB WildCat on 21/05/2008 02:24:07
No idea if this will really work, but I thought I would throw this out there.
Highs -
4 Siege Launcher T2
4 800 Autocannon T2
Mids-
2 Invulnerability Field T2
2 Large Shield Extender T2
Lows -
7 Shield Power Relays
Rigs - Field Purgers
With Drones, does about 1000dps.
Shield recharge rate of 260/sec, better than a vultures.
Anyhow thats my shield phoon
WildCat
This is a great fit. I would recommend going for the Estamel Invuls for maximum tank.
Where do you mission btw? 
(quickly assembles 4 suicide Ravens with EMP torps)
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Bertn Erney
The Fudge Packers Union
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Posted - 2008.05.21 08:21:00 -
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Edited by: Bertn Erney on 21/05/2008 08:21:57
Originally by: Delichon
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Edited by: DHB WildCat on 21/05/2008 02:24:07
No idea if this will really work, but I thought I would throw this out there.
Highs -
4 Siege Launcher T2
4 800 Autocannon T2
Mids-
2 Invulnerability Field T2
2 Large Shield Extender T2
Lows -
7 Shield Power Relays
Rigs - Field Purgers
With Drones, does about 1000dps.
Shield recharge rate of 260/sec, better than a vultures.
Anyhow thats my shield phoon
WildCat
This is a great fit. I would recommend going for the Estamel Invuls for maximum tank.
Where do you mission btw?
(quickly assembles 4 suicide Ravens with EMP torps)
arent you stupid for not reading the title, additionally suicide gank jokes dont work when the op did not even mention faction and you suggest officer invulns
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Urd Yggdrasil
Pator Republic Technologies
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Posted - 2008.05.21 09:23:00 -
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Kinda sad when people cant read what the OP is writing. "No idea if this will really work, but I thought I would throw this out there"
I think hes not aiming for a solosetup, but as a complement in gang that can take a lot of beating while dishing out to, and dont have to run around but sits park were it lands,, on top of the target.
Personally I think the use of AB and mwd¦s are overrated when it comes to the new nanoera, its basicly only a nanopoon or a nano machariel that can be close to keep up.
Only thing I would change in the setup was removing some AC`s for neuts.
Besides that, the more new fun and "other" setups the more fun, or we can al just copy and paste "the onesetup",, boooring...
/Urd,, likes all new ideas including the Phoon :)
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Sonic Slayer
Guardian Heroes Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.22 03:59:00 -
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Ya got to appreciate the versatility of the 'Phoon. Not many ships can pull off a passive tank then turn around with a solid (considering it is made from scrap metal) armor tank... or even hull tank.  Granted it was on the test server and I had a rack of neuts and relied on my drones to deal damage, it took out a blasterthron.
Before I upgraded to a RF Pest, the 'Phoon was my favorite. In fleet, I like to fly support, nos/ neut cruise boat passive tanked 'Phoon with a shield transporter and repair bots. this has extremely low dps, but like I said, I fly support, if I get E-wared, the FoFs from cruise launchers keep me in the fight and the repair bots keep reping the target regardless. If I'm not e-wared, then I'm nosing and neuting all the cap away from whatever and transporting shields to the primary.
The point of this setup is to nullify the tanking ability of enemy ships. I also rely on the rest of the fleet to keep me up with shield transfers. As a passive tank, while it can take quite a bit of dps, can only take so much as you all know... If your fleet is a bit on the incompetent side, I definitely do not recommend this at all, and by no means whatsoever is this a solo setup lmao. This is just something ... different I liked to use back when nos-Domis were more prevalent in game.  |
Cpt Branko
Surge.
NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.05.22 04:11:00 -
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Well, from my experience, after trying a MWD-less phoon I found I was landing too far off to be fully effective... so I'd definitely fit a MWD in there.
After that, the full passive tank on the lows removes any hope of damage mods, and I don't really like that bit.
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Alex Shurk
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Posted - 2008.05.22 04:41:00 -
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Terrible, terrible fit. Low damage, and the tank is just about on par with the passive armour tank a standard gank phoon fields. Also, good luck warping more than twice.
And please stop posting in that ****ty colour looking for attention.
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Ortos
Abyssus Incendia
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.22 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Urd Yggdrasil
Kinda sad when people cant read what the OP is writing. "No idea if this will really work, but I thought I would throw this out there"
FU.. Dont discriminate against people that cant read orange.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.22 08:52:00 -
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its slow, and its cap recharge is utter crap, caps its self out with the 2 invunls, and a long warp... well have fun recharging your cap for an hour
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.05.22 09:03:00 -
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no tackle, no damage mods. This will be useful to a gang in what way? |
Riho
Mercenary Forces
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.22 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
no tackle, no damage mods. This will be useful to a gang in what way?
the fit is bit fail yes... but you dont fit damage mods on a phoon anyways..
as it only affects 1/3 of your weapons and if you want to fit more you lose tank and so on.
phoon is perfectly fine whitout damage mods... only ship ingame sub capital that can get 1k dps whitout any damage mods |
Megan Maynard
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.05.22 10:19:00 -
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GAWD i hate battleships, but if I had to fit a ship "Minmatar Style" for a gang....
Highs:
4x cruise
4x 650 autos
mids:
1x mwd
1x TP
2x Large shield extenders
Lows:
3x Gyro
3x BC
1x damage control
1x PDU |
Riho
Mercenary Forces
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.22 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard
GAWD i hate battleships, but if I had to fit a ship "Minmatar Style" for a gang....
Highs:
4x cruise
4x 650 autos
mids:
1x mwd
1x TP
2x Large shield extenders
Lows:
3x Gyro
3x BC
1x damage control
1x PDU
lol... that ship is not a big hurricane :P good dps but folds like paper bag.
try
4x ac (dual 650 if u can fit it)
4x siege
mwd, point, web, radom (eccm or painter)
4x plate, 2x ean, dcu
3x trimark
5x heavy drones.
super dps whitout any damage mods (1k + dps) and suck ammounts of armor HP
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Avan Strega
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.22 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Riho
4x plate, 2x ean, dcu
3x trimark
lots of hp but poor resists. 2 plates, 1 eanm, exp/kin/therm, dcu + 3 trimarks still gives about 28k armour but with good resists. also if you have a slave set it's a nice bonus.
to the OP, passive shield tank phoon doesn't seem like a great plan, it's not a good enough passive tank to justify not being able to tackle, maintain/close range, or fit damage mods, tbh |
Auron Shadowbane
Pelennor Swarm
Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.05.22 13:10:00 -
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well i think there is a flaw in the idea.
if you fly in gangs and only are there to add dps after landing top notch you want max dps since oponents will kill taklers, ew and stuff before they start on heavily (alone by its stats a bs can take more punishment than a ew recon or cruiser) tanked bs.
so replace lows with 3 gyro II 3 ballistics II and 1 dc/power diag. for rigs I'd use shield amounth since dps tanked isnt worth it in gangs where you ahve enoguh ppl so you dont need your mids for ew/takle.
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imnotascout
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Posted - 2008.05.23 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
Edited by: DHB WildCat on 21/05/2008 02:24:07
No idea if this will really work, but I thought I would throw this out there.
Highs -
4 Siege Launcher T2
4 800 Autocannon T2
Mids-
2 Invulnerability Field T2
2 Large Shield Extender T2
Lows -
7 Shield Power Relays
Rigs - Field Purgers
With Drones, does about 1000dps.
Shield recharge rate of 260/sec, better than a vultures.
Anyhow thats my shield phoon
WildCat
[troll]
it doesnt have a cloak and cant target at 200km
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.05.23 15:41:00 -
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i thought that orange text guy wanted to quit eve?
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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.05.23 16:57:00 -
[29]
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Edited by: DHB WildCat on 21/05/2008 02:24:07
No idea if this will really work, but I thought I would throw this out there.
Highs -
4 Siege Launcher T2
4 800 Autocannon T2
Mids-
2 Invulnerability Field T2
2 Large Shield Extender T2
Lows -
7 Shield Power Relays
Rigs - Field Purgers
With Drones, does about 1000dps.
Shield recharge rate of 260/sec, better than a vultures.
Anyhow thats my shield phoon
WildCat
If you were in a gang with a leviathan it could be funny as a bait ship that bites :P
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Scots Crusader
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.05.23 18:17:00 -
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The Phoon is a nice ship. Fitting damage mods seems a waste unless you go a 3 x BCU II/ 3 x GYRO II which is just plain silly.
My set-up I use if full weapons:-
Top:- 4 x T2 Torps/ 4 x 650 AC II
Mid:- MWD/Web/ Dual Painters
Low:- 3 x 1600 plates/ 3 x EANM II's/ DCU II
Rigs:- 3 x trimarks
Drones:- 5 x Ogre II's
Thing hits hard, with a lot of HP for someone to chew through and almost cap free once you get into rapage range using your MWD.
The sheild set-up was a shock I must admit, but you will have serious cap problems and range will be an even bigger headache.
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