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Athar Mu
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.21 12:10:00 -
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Just looking at the stats for these modules, it seems that a Multi-Spectrum ECCM does exactly want a Racial does but does it across the board.
My question is does anyone know the benefits of using a Racial ECCM over a Multi-Spectrum or vice-versa?
Also are they worth considering building into a setup due to the common usage of Falcons in gangs?
Cheers.
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Rach NiKunni
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Posted - 2008.05.21 12:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Athar Mu
Just looking at the stats for these modules, it seems that a Multi-Spectrum ECCM does exactly want a Racial does but does it across the board.
.... AND with less power - therefore lower chance of success.
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My question is does anyone know the benefits of using a Racial ECCM over a Multi-Spectrum or vice-versa?
Also are they worth considering building into a setup due to the common usage of Falcons in gangs?
Cheers.
ECM jammers are always good to have in a (small) gang. The Caldari in particular have lots of ships taht can use them effectively, not just the Falcon.
Generally you'll use the racial ones when you're sure what your target is flying. For attacking targets of opportunity the multispecs would be more versatile.
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Orin Valari
The Sycorax Syndicate
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.05.21 12:20:00 -
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He is asking about ECCM not ECM.
Honestly, I don't know the answer to this. Why would you fit a multispectral ECCM as opposed to your racially specific one?
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Athar Mu
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.21 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Orin Valari
He is asking about ECCM not ECM.
Honestly, I don't know the answer to this. Why would you fit a multispectral ECCM as opposed to your racially specific one?
Looking at the stats of the ECCM, Racial's have half the activation costs of the Multi's but that is the only difference, I suppose, if you were cap intensive then fair enough but otherwise.
Would using the ECCM Multi-Spectrum help protect you against people trying to jam you with the wrong racial ECM or with Multi-Specs?
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.05.21 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 21/05/2008 13:29:11
Multi ECCMs used to be very handy, because in olden times the jamming ship had to overcome all four of the defender's sensor strengths.
That is no longer the case though, and since ECCMs now give a percentage rather than numerical bonus, they are useless when compared to the racial ones.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.05.21 13:37:00 -
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Since my corp has members of different races - I keep the corp hanger stocked with multispectral ECCM, that way in a pinch anyone can have ECCM ready, versus being annoyed that the wrong racial one is available.
So convenience is my reason.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.21 13:37:00 -
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dunno.. i use racial. it gives alot more bonus to my weakness than multis across the board... dont think any smart ECM pilot would try to jamm me whit caldari jammers on a minmatar ship :P
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Val Vesta
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Posted - 2008.05.21 14:25:00 -
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can still get jammed by ECMs of types other than your ship's sensor type, though less likely. But if this does happen, your race specific ECCM doesn't to anything, so a multi helps cover all ECM types more, and the race specific one less.
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Arous Drephius
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.21 14:25:00 -
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The only reason to use the Omni ECCM is, like posted above, convenience.
All ships (apart from Apotheosis and Jovian ships), only have 1 type of sensor, so boosting the others is pointless (adding 96% to 0 is still 0). It will not help against being jammed with the wrong racial jammers.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.05.21 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Riho
dunno.. i use racial. it gives alot more bonus to my weakness than multis across the board... dont think any smart ECM pilot would try to jamm me whit caldari jammers on a minmatar ship :P
Checking on EFT - the multispectral offers no benefit against the wrong jammers on your ship.
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You're in a Caldari Ship (gravimetric)
ECM pilot uses LADAR jamming (minmatar) - the reduction in the chance to jam you is no different with multispectral vs gravimetric eccm.
This is because all jammers including racials will emit every type of jamming type (just better at its particular racial vs the others) - and your ship is only affected by your racial jamming strength.
The only benefit for multispectral eccm is shareability. Doesn't matter what race you are it will help you - whereas a racial eccm will only help that particular race's ship reduce jamming possibility. Its convenience.
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Matrixcvd
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.05.21 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 21/05/2008 13:29:11
Multi ECCMs used to be very handy, because in olden times the jamming ship had to overcome all four of the defender's sensor strengths.
That is no longer the case though, and since ECCMs now give a percentage rather than numerical bonus, they are useless when compared to the racial ones.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.21 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Athar Mu
Just looking at the stats for these modules, it seems that a Multi-Spectrum ECCM does exactly want a Racial does but does it across the board.
My question is does anyone know the benefits of using a Racial ECCM over a Multi-Spectrum or vice-versa?
Also are they worth considering building into a setup due to the common usage of Falcons in gangs?
Cheers.
Speaking as a Falcon Pilot:
A single ECCM will make your battleship very hard to jam. After 2-3 failed cycles, I would probably unlock you and try and to jam a different target instead until there was no other ship of your racial type to target. A sniper-fitted EECM'd BS is a highly effective counter to jamming ships.
Of course, I would also request the FC to primary you ASAP.
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