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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.04 10:24:00 -
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"I'm am teh uber" "Yuo aer teh suck 1"
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.05.04 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: dalman "I'm am teh uber" "Yuo aer teh suck 1"

care to elaborate So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.04 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich

care to elaborate
Read the post prior to mine... Unfortunately I got a new page. I'm just bored.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.05.04 10:47:00 -
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yeahh me to, maybe its time to enjoy the fine may weather and get a cold frosty one at a cafe So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.05.04 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich yeahh me to, maybe its time to enjoy the fine may weather and get a cold frosty one at a cafe
Nice and rainy here and i am to very bored rigth now ----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.05.04 11:22:00 -
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Quote: Originally by: Duke Droklar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I believe the point being made here is that the propaganda reasons for the SA war on CA was bull from the start.
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You believe Duke? Shouldn't you know for sure since you were a very big part of that back then? -[MASS]Dalman
The fact is that MASS and EV told the SA council that CA was attacking the SA shipping going through catch and war was declared based on this. However the truth that eventually came out was that MASS and EV had already been attacking the CA BEFORE the attacks on SA shipping.
Quote: You (= CA) are doing a very good job at making new enemies (and keeping them as long as possible). So paying anyone to attack you is entirely not necessary. Especially since we need to entertain our own pvp'ers. If only C4 would follow up on their war declaration... -[XAN]
These corps were not wronged by CA so save us the bull. As to the C4 declaration, we have certain commitments to honor first but don't worry, we'll get around to FA.
Quote: Mr Nice, although your right when saying we havent attacked Curse in this particular conflict, it is wrong to assume that Xanadu as a corp doesnt PvP (We have spent the last days helping the C4 alliance relocate out of Stain space). We have our own PvP force to keep busy, and on that account no need or interest to "hire" or "fund" anyone but our own pilots. -[XAN]
Attacking C4 is attacking CA. C4 corps are member corps of the CA. Secondly and most importantly, it was a combined FA/CFS/SA force of over 80 pilots that assaulted the C4 forces in paragon soul. The XAN focres were only about 5 in any operation so please spare us the bull. When XAN came alone the first time they were impotent, outmanuevered and picked off. Of course if they have 2 other alliances backing them with massive fleets they can actually live to tell about it and try to make it out as if they pushed C4 out by themselves. Now thats humorous.
Quote: Dont want to be pedantic, but technically we are fighting CA atm since many of the C4 corps are also in CA. They declared war on us, not our fault when they try to avoid fighting us now. -[XAN]Friday
Exactly, FA are attacking CA. Where you're wrong is that XAN/finfleet initiated war when they sent combat pilots with the CFS/SA fleets in paragon. We gave them an opportunity to withdraw before it officially moved to a state of war between C4 and FA. FA started the war by initiating combat operations against C4. We will initiate our operations on our schedule, not yours. If you haven't noticed it's a multi-front war and we will engage our enemies as we see tactically correct. He who laughs last...
Quote: After reading the arguments, I can explain why we dont kill m0o... -[SWI]Bared
Let me finish that for you. Because SWI can't kill anything but time.
Quote: Duke: For someone who gives away valuable information and doesnt even know he did it, and seems to know so little about warfare he doesnt understand the importants of industrial and political intellegence (try analysing Alexander of Macedonia's war with Persia and the "devide and conquor" approach he took) you have little right to talk about the propaganda machine you orchistated while a member of the stain alliance. By the way m'boy, all those supposedly treasonous convo's I had with you, you should take a closer look at all my questions and your answers and the time it took you to answer thm and the way you answered them. In the game of sublty and intigue, you should leave it to Balmer, he has some fortitude in the area you lack. -[SWI]Bared
What a sad little man from an even sadder little corp. People like him think they have to weasle info out of people when OC is pretty upfront about anything we do. Ask and we'll usually tell you. You haven't been given any information we wouldn't tell anyone that asked.
Btw, why didnt you come out to help your corp mate from losing his BS to a few frigs that were killing him? I even told you in local we were killing DOC before his shields were even half down. But you chose to stay hidden like the worm you are.
Quote: Oh, and one other thing. Omega is getting spanked by FA?
Hiya Nec.. -[EVOL]ProphetGuru
OC has taken very little losses in the CFS/FA/SA war. There were some losses from the C4 corps though. Yes 80+ pilots from 3 allainces can push us out of a far flung area. It's not like Evol can do it, now that would be embarrassing.
2cool: You as many have missed the point. CA isn't "crying" about these attacks. What we're saying is don't try and claim "anti-piracy" as the reason for the attacks when you're working WITH pirates and not attacking them as well. The reason for SA sucking up to the pirates is desperation... not anti-piracy.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.05.04 11:30:00 -
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*does girly homer simpson scream*
*runs off and hugs zap*
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.05.04 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Droklar These corps were not wronged by CA so save us the bull. As to the C4 declaration, we have certain commitments to honor first but don't worry, we'll get around to FA.
Btw, why didnt you come out to help your corp mate from losing his BS to a few frigs that were killing him? I even told you in local we were killing DOC before his shields were even half down. But you chose to stay hidden like the worm you are.
a certain incident happened today in HLW-HP, involving 4 of our frigates, and a CA tempest. a frigate/cruiser fleet of about 6-8 ships owned by C4/CA sat idle in the system, and did not engage us. when the tempest went boom one of the CA frigate guys congratulated us. MAN. unfortunatly didnt make a screenie of it. ;-|
dont talk bull**** about honor etc.
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Friday Dillinja
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Posted - 2004.05.04 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Droklar ...
As expected you are unable to admit bad judgement on your side. You were already in a state of war with SA and CFS. And instead of trying to arrange yourself with FA you declared war. This was your decission. Whine about it all you want, it wont change anything. You jumped on the boards and declared war, we sent C4 fleets back home (to curse).
Being outnumbered is the consequence of bad planning. Personally I'm quite satisfied with a FA/C4 kill/death ratio of 11:1. So yes... please show us what you have planned for us. We are bored to death over here.

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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.05.04 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Duke Droklar on 04/05/2004 12:18:23
Quote: I also had conversations with duke in which he would give away information. He had them with dobbo and with other SA members as well. To my knowledge only one corp actually went to c4. That was stronghold. Its nothing new that duke has been giving away vital information pretty much since OC left SA.(of course he didnt really know that he was doing it... Its all just part of the game.) -[SWI]Raytesh
As I said, we're pretty open about things. Since we've been stompong the living dog sh*t out of SA I can see how much that info benefitted you.
Stronghold was the only SA corp whos offer to join was accepted. We have had others offer but quite frankly they were not worthy. SWI's offer to join was met with laughter on TS as SWI really does suck... seriously. Maybe you guys should actually learn to fight, BS's do fit more than mining lasers.
Quote: Umm, MOo was one of first members of Stain Alliance, and one of first members to have to leave. Riffin = heavy duty miner (heh heh) -[MASS]GFLTorque
BFS, OC protested m0o operating in SA space in the council from day one. The answer we got was "we don't want to mess with m0o". They weren't members, SA was just too chickensh&t to do anything about it.
Quote: I respect them members of my corp respect them. We have fought against each other and they are worthy opponents. -[SWI]Agent
GTF outta here. Are you trying to say you have actually fought? Worthy opponent? They flying Ibis's?
Quote: a certain incident happened today in HLW-HP, involving 4 of our frigates, and a CA tempest. a frigate/cruiser fleet of about 6-8 ships owned by C4/CA sat idle in the system, and did not engage us. when the tempest went boom one of the CA frigate guys congratulated us. MAN. unfortunatly didnt make a screenie of it. ;-| -[m0o]TWD
Please do name the CA frig pilot that congratulated you. I am curious as to why he didnt go to the aid of that pilot if he was active. Ever consider that those other pilots were afk or operating another accounts?
Quote: As expected you are unable to admit bad judgement on your side. You were already in a state of war with SA and CFS. And instead of trying to arrange yourself with FA you declared war. This was your decission. Whine about it all you want, it wont change anything. You jumped on the boards and declared war, we sent C4 fleets back home (to curse).
Being outnumbered is the consequence of bad planning. Personally I'm quite satisfied with a FA/C4 kill/death ratio of 10:1. So yes... please show us what you have planned for us. We are bored to death over here. -[XAN]
Who's whining? We don't "arrange ourselves". You may think you'll fair better than SA, time will tell. You didn't send C4 to curse. Your pilots were a drop in the bucket and not much of a difference in the overall fleet numbers.
Your intel is lacking. Even the last battle where C4 lost 5 BS we took out 2 and that was with getting ambushed by superior numbers. Since we had already destroyed over 25 coalition BS in paragon alone, your kill ratio is a tad off. The actual score is 25+ Coalition destroyed / 11+ C4 destroyed.
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.05.04 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Droklar Attacking C4 is attacking CA. C4 corps are member corps of the CA. Secondly and most importantly, it was a combined FA/CFS/SA force of over 80 pilots that assaulted the C4 forces in paragon soul. The XAN focres were only about 5 in any operation so please spare us the bull. When XAN came alone the first time they were impotent, outmanuevered and picked off. Of course if they have 2 other alliances backing them with massive fleets they can actually live to tell about it and try to make it out as if they pushed C4 out by themselves. Now thats humorous.
Well your inability to count was never a question in the past, so I dont really need to get into that aspect now, but atleast you manage to clear up this C4/CA issue which you guys have always been so keen on smudging up in the past. If you cant handle the repercusions of declaring war, I suggest you shouldnt do it in the first place, but then again the future will show how things unfold 
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.05.04 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Droklar Please do name the CA frig pilot that congratulated you. I am curious as to why he didnt go to the aid of that pilot if he was active. Ever consider that those other pilots were afk or operating another accounts?
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.05.04 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Droklar
Your intel is lacking. Even the last battle where C4 lost 5 BS we took out 2 and that was with getting ambushed by superior numbers. Since we had already destroyed over 25 coalition BS in paragon alone, your kill ratio is a tad off. The actual score is 25+ Coalition destroyed / 11+ C4 destroyed.
Oh ya sorry, our Intel is lacking so badly we dont even know what our own gang lost. Sorry Droklar, but in that fight we lost 1 battleship (Chim in a raven). And later on that evening Frantik was so nice as to recover the Raven of the Zoners CEO from a safespot to replace Chim's ship. As I already stated numbers are definitaly not your strong point.
Neither is logic for that matter. You declared war on the Fountain alliance, and after you sent your lil "harrasment fleet" up to Fountain which got decimated within the hour, we decided to come down to find some more of you guys. 11 downed, and 1 captured enemy battleship according to this kill list I have next to me with 2 losses. Not sure why the FA should start counting in losses of people who you have been at war with for months now into our ratios.. but ya as I said.. logic.. numbers... oOOoooOOo scary stuff eh?
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.04 12:55:00 -
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Omg long quotes
and most of it filled with cheesey squeezy goodness
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Revolution
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Posted - 2004.05.04 12:55:00 -
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rofl at this thread
mr nice - shredder, i feel for you man
dreez talking about dignity and honour?
my only encounter with you was on chaos, in which you abused a new player for asking how a module worked, gg dignity and honour.
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The Daddy
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Posted - 2004.05.04 13:07:00 -
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Quote:
Oh ya sorry, our Intel is lacking so badly we dont even know what our own gang lost. Sorry Droklar, but in that fight we lost 1 battleship (Chim in a raven). And later on that evening Frantik was so nice as to recover the Raven of the Zoners CEO from a safespot to replace Chim's ship. As I already stated numbers are definitaly not your strong point.
......11 downed, and 1 captured enemy battleship according to this kill list I have next to me with 2 losses.
Not wishing to get involved in a 'I killed more than you did discussion' I think the reason for confusion in this battle (I was there), was that about a min before our fleet engaged your fleet we had engaged 2 Tempests we downed one and the other escaped.
We have obviously assumed that they were part of the same fleet as we fought them so closely to the battle with yourselves.
We lost that battle fair and square and as a matter of interest I would like to see your kill list (Eve Mail it to avaoid a flamefest if you like)
Di! Ecce hora! Uxor mea me necabit! |

Mr Nice
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Posted - 2004.05.04 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Revolution rofl at this thread
mr nice - shredder, i feel for you man
dreez talking about dignity and honour?
my only encounter with you was on chaos, in which you abused a new player for asking how a module worked, gg dignity and honour.
Not shredder im afraid. Ask [Xan]Niwaie (friday) who I am.
Im glad you feel for me tho, Its always nice to get sympathy. Arguing with your corp mate was such a pain.
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.05.04 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Temujin Destovai on 04/05/2004 13:21:08
Originally by: The Daddy
Not wishing to get involved in a 'I killed more than you did discussion' I think the reason for confusion in this battle (I was there), was that about a min before our fleet engaged your fleet we had engaged 2 Tempests we downed one and the other escaped.
We have obviously assumed that they were part of the same fleet as we fought them so closely to the battle with yourselves.
We lost that battle fair and square and as a matter of interest I would like to see your kill list (Eve Mail it to avaoid a flamefest if you like)
Dont know anything of the two tempests, so they must have been unassociated with the FA fleet. Usually I dont like to post the actual list out of obvious reasons, but Ill snip out the battleship kills I have listed on the Xanadu site (cant speak for other FA corps, Stain or CFS) and make a short listing:
Quote:
DATE VICTIM CORP ALLIANCE SHIP LOCATION CREW 30 04 2004 Fandango Zoners C4 Apocalypse OSUF-3 Xanadu Fleet 29 04 2004 Stocker Zoners C4 Scorpion OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Silentnight 7th Space Cavalry C4 Scorpion OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Wulf Setta Strike Force C4 Tempest OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Specter Omega Corp C4 Scorpion OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Lord Sauruman Zoners C4 Raven OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 ottolfur olsen December Brigade C4 Scorpion PF-KUQ Reah 28 04 2004 ottolfur olsen December Brigade C4 Apocalypse TCAG-3 Xanadu Fleet 28 04 2004 Svarun Zoners C4 Megathron TCAG-3 Xanadu Fleet 28 04 2004 Burner Omega Corp C4 Tempest TCAG-3 Xanadu Fleet 27 04 2004 Lord Drax Omega Corp C4 Scorpion GQ2S-8 Xan+FinFleet
with amdendment of
29 04 2004 Nikita Zoners C4 Raven GQ2S-8 Frantik[BIG] for Chim (Captured)

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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.05.04 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Temujin Destovai Edited by: Temujin Destovai on 04/05/2004 13:21:08
Originally by: The Daddy
Not wishing to get involved in a 'I killed more than you did discussion' I think the reason for confusion in this battle (I was there), was that about a min before our fleet engaged your fleet we had engaged 2 Tempests we downed one and the other escaped.
We have obviously assumed that they were part of the same fleet as we fought them so closely to the battle with yourselves.
We lost that battle fair and square and as a matter of interest I would like to see your kill list (Eve Mail it to avaoid a flamefest if you like)
Dont know anything of the two tempests, so they must have been unassociated with the FA fleet. Usually I dont like to post the actual list out of obvious reasons, but Ill snip out the battleship kills I have listed on the Xanadu site (cant speak for other FA corps, Stain or CFS) and make a short listing:
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DATE VICTIM CORP ALLIANCE SHIP LOCATION CREW 30 04 2004 Fandango Zoners C4 Apocalypse OSUF-3 Xanadu Fleet 29 04 2004 Stocker Zoners C4 Scorpion OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Silentnight 7th Space Cavalry C4 Scorpion OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Wulf Setta Strike Force C4 Tempest OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Specter Omega Corp C4 Scorpion OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Lord Sauruman Zoners C4 Raven OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 ottolfur olsen December Brigade C4 Scorpion PF-KUQ Reah 28 04 2004 ottolfur olsen December Brigade C4 Apocalypse TCAG-3 Xanadu Fleet 28 04 2004 Svarun Zoners C4 Megathron TCAG-3 Xanadu Fleet 28 04 2004 Burner Omega Corp C4 Tempest TCAG-3 Xanadu Fleet 27 04 2004 Lord Drax Omega Corp C4 Scorpion GQ2S-8 Xan+FinFleet
with amdendment of
29 04 2004 Nikita Zoners C4 Raven GQ2S-8 Frantik[BIG] for Chim (Captured)

Without trying to flame here, it seems a bit strange that you ignore the losses in the fleet engagements that does not belong to you (IE FA), but you count the kills done with the combined forces (FA and CFS).
If you want to be taken seriously I think you should be more specific in your statments (on both losses and victories) as almost half the kills below you have had listed above it was a combined CFS/FA fleet engagement that made them.
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Friday Dillinja
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Posted - 2004.05.04 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lightor
Originally by: Temujin Destovai Edited by: Temujin Destovai on 04/05/2004 13:21:08
Originally by: The Daddy
Not wishing to get involved in a 'I killed more than you did discussion' I think the reason for confusion in this battle (I was there), was that about a min before our fleet engaged your fleet we had engaged 2 Tempests we downed one and the other escaped.
We have obviously assumed that they were part of the same fleet as we fought them so closely to the battle with yourselves.
We lost that battle fair and square and as a matter of interest I would like to see your kill list (Eve Mail it to avaoid a flamefest if you like)
Dont know anything of the two tempests, so they must have been unassociated with the FA fleet. Usually I dont like to post the actual list out of obvious reasons, but Ill snip out the battleship kills I have listed on the Xanadu site (cant speak for other FA corps, Stain or CFS) and make a short listing:
Quote:
DATE VICTIM CORP ALLIANCE SHIP LOCATION CREW 30 04 2004 Fandango Zoners C4 Apocalypse OSUF-3 Xanadu Fleet 29 04 2004 Stocker Zoners C4 Scorpion OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Silentnight 7th Space Cavalry C4 Scorpion OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Wulf Setta Strike Force C4 Tempest OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Specter Omega Corp C4 Scorpion OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 Lord Sauruman Zoners C4 Raven OSUF-3 Xan+CFS+Finfleet 29 04 2004 ottolfur olsen December Brigade C4 Scorpion PF-KUQ Reah 28 04 2004 ottolfur olsen December Brigade C4 Apocalypse TCAG-3 Xanadu Fleet 28 04 2004 Svarun Zoners C4 Megathron TCAG-3 Xanadu Fleet 28 04 2004 Burner Omega Corp C4 Tempest TCAG-3 Xanadu Fleet 27 04 2004 Lord Drax Omega Corp C4 Scorpion GQ2S-8 Xan+FinFleet
with amdendment of
29 04 2004 Nikita Zoners C4 Raven GQ2S-8 Frantik[BIG] for Chim (Captured)

Without trying to flame here, it seems a bit strange that you ignore the losses in the fleet engagements that does not belong to you (IE FA), but you count the kills done with the combined forces (FA and CFS).
If you want to be taken seriously I think you should be more specific in your statments (on both losses and victories) as almost half the kills below you have had listed above it was a combined CFS/FA fleet engagement that made them.
Temujin only pasted a section of the Xanadu kill list, not the FA, SA or CFS one. This includes all kills where a Xanadu Fleet was present, with allies or alone. Since I dont have the CFS/SA kills/losses lists, I can't comment on them.
Fair enough? 
------------------------------------ retired. niwaie of Xanadu |

dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.04 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Lightor Without trying to flame here, it seems a bit strange that you ignore the losses in the fleet engagements that does not belong to you (IE FA), but you count the kills done with the combined forces (FA and CFS).
ROFL, an OC alt saying this? 
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Lord Drax
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Posted - 2004.05.04 14:14:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Drax on 04/05/2004 14:18:46 You guys need to make a change to your gq2 kill list. I have NEVER lost a scorpion in esoteria/paragon soul. The only ship i lost in gq2 was a vigil, which took 3 battleships and an interceptor to kill.
I know you may think i was flying my scorp as it had a major difference in the battle at the station, when we, outnumbered, jumped in and killed 4 battleships, but next time please actually look at the ship you are killing and not just make it up to make you seem more l33t.
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The Daddy
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Posted - 2004.05.04 14:27:00 -
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Thanks for the information.
May I suggest that we get together some time and organise a way to record kills, that is common to both sides fighting an alliance war....A suggestion would be to show BS kills per week and not quote a ratio, as depending on your viewpoint that ratio can be flawed. This then ignores the issue of how many alliances you are fighting and who belongs to what (You could also include your own losses as a negative figure). Comparison of kill lists between alliances removes disputed kills and shows up 'unreported' losses.
example: Your alliance killed 10 BS and lost 5....your total kills are then 5 for that week
One of the biggest problems the alliances have is that in the heat of battle a kill gets attributed to the wrong fleet or is assumed to be part of another fleet so we get a forum war about who lost what.
Unfortunately though this only works if both sides have the honour to accurately report their kills/losses and use common criteria. So until CCP gives the killers confirmation kill mails, this maybe the only answer.
No doubt I will get flamed for this idea, but what the hell!
Di! Ecce hora! Uxor mea me necabit! |

Lightor
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Posted - 2004.05.04 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Friday Dillinja
Temujin only pasted a section of the Xanadu kill list, not the FA, SA or CFS one. This includes all kills where a Xanadu Fleet was present, with allies or alone. Since I dont have the CFS/SA kills/losses lists, I can't comment on them.
Fair enough? 
I suppose so, but then perhaps you should be more careful in saying "Personally I'm quite satisfied with a FA/C4 kill/death ratio of 11:1" as you clearly counted in your combined forces of FA/CFS in the Kill figure and did not count in CFS losses in it.
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.05.04 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Lightor Without trying to flame here, it seems a bit strange that you ignore the losses in the fleet engagements that does not belong to you (IE FA), but you count the kills done with the combined forces (FA and CFS).
ROFL, an OC alt saying this? 
Dalman, I suggest you STFU as you have become a real forum troll. The discussion was asked in a civil manner and not directed to you. So why do you have to go in and act childish?
Have you not got anything better to do than unloading crap on the forums? Try going and writing something constructive for a change and people might respect you.
Who knows, maybe you will even like it?
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.05.04 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lightor
I suppose so, but then perhaps you should be more careful in saying "Personally I'm quite satisfied with a FA/C4 kill/death ratio of 11:1" as you clearly counted in your combined forces of FA/CFS in the Kill figure and did not count in CFS losses in it.
The shared CFS/FA kills all come from 1 battle, namely the one where the C4 lost 5 battleships. Im not sure how many CFS pilots were in the gang, but as far as I am informed no CFS ships were lost in that encounter, so there arent any CFS losses that need to be counted into the ratio.
There is no reason to include CFS losses into a FA/C4 kill ratio if they happen outside of fights that include FA forces, just as we dont count kills that they make from such engagments. All in all I am quite satisified with our 11:1 ratio.. and I dont see any reason not to be 
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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.05.04 15:03:00 -
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I have a big ***** ----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.05.04 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ph0enix I'm just hoping one day everyones gonna drop these lame excuses for attacking the CA.
My excuse is that you guys are all *******s. How's that for an excuse?
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Pogy Bait
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Posted - 2004.05.04 15:29:00 -
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I would appreciate if you guys would stop taking this off topic.
Now back to frigate tactics vs. battleships...
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2004.05.04 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ph0enix I'm just hoping one day everyones gonna drop these lame excuses for attacking the CA.
Hello, you used lame excuses to declare war on CFS.
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