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Senkoomtep	Posted - 2004.05.03 17:00:00 - [1] I had a corp mate recently podded by a peep from a 196 member corp. This peep informed my mate that our nOOb corp was listed as "kill on sight" and that he had been ordered to kill him. I didn't think Cold Fusion was a pirate corp so we're kinda weirded out by this. Seeing as how our corp is 2 weeks old and only has 8 members, what do ya'll think is the likelihood of this being tru? If so, why? And if not, why would this podder use this excuse? Sign me "bemused" ___________________________________________ "Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed"
DeathBunny	Posted - 2004.05.03 17:03:00 - [2] LOL Didn't know Cold Fusion killed many peeps unless they entered FA space or **ed them off in some sort of way. Fear The Bunny**
Senkoomtep	Posted - 2004.05.03 17:24:00 - [3] Ah, forgot to mention.. My corp has never been to 0.0 space...none of us even own a bs yet. This kos designation is a puzzle atm, if tru. It could be just a lie for that fella to use as an excuse, but we're still trying to find that out. My corp name is Mithril Masters Security Corp. ___________________________________________ "Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed"
Xavier Perez	Posted - 2004.05.03 17:24:00 - [4] Because they can. If your not big enough to do something about it, they can pick on you with impunity, no one will care, and can cancel the war slot any time they want. the solution - make a new corp, keep yours as active, and eat up their war slot. That's some serious payback when they have a war slot wasted for months and no one to kill.
DeathBunny	Posted - 2004.05.03 17:51:00 - [5] Xavier Perez is correct on 1 point. Your small they big. U can do almost anything you want when you have a huge corp at your hands. No one tries pushing you around much. Besides that you can't to crap to them. They might of done it for training practice with new setups. I know thats not uncommon hehe. *Fear The Bunny*
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2004.05.03 18:36:00 - [6] Cold Fusion do what they wish cuz they are big, they have alot of bullies in their corp, just move and ignore them. Don't pay any attention to the FA kill list, unless you REALLY get them rilled up most will ignore you. Unless you hang out like 5 jumps away you really have nothing to fear from what i have seen. The kill list is b.s. Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass.
Lysender	Posted - 2004.05.03 22:01:00 - [7] Edited by: Lysender on 03/05/2004 22:13:45 Edited by: Lysender on 03/05/2004 22:02:53 Quote: I had a corp mate recently podded by a peep from a 196 member corp. This peep informed my mate that our nOOb corp was listed as "kill on sight" and that he had been ordered to kill him. I didn't think Cold Fusion was a pirate corp so we're kinda weirded out by this. Seeing as how our corp is 2 weeks old and only has 8 members, what do ya'll think is the likelihood of this being tru? If so, why? And if not, why would this podder use this excuse? I can tell you that Cold fusion Doesn't go around killing innocent people on purpose. We don't gate camp and demand money for passage. We're not a pirate corporation. Edited because I misread the post. Sorry.
Bozl1n	Posted - 2004.05.03 22:02:00 - [8] Edited by: Bozl1n on 04/05/2004 13:15:24 If u were caught up in last nights fight in any way and shouldnt have been, accept my apoligies. If u were hit its because of u were in the wrong place at the wrong time and were caught up in a long lasting feued. Sorry again http:/eve-coldfusion.com
Cuahl	Posted - 2004.05.03 22:17:00 - [9] If you are attacked by a member of cold fusion it is usually because of an act of hostility in our direction. We do not openly fly around killing people at random and several of our new corp members in empire have been attacked by certain corps and if you were caught in the cross fire that is regrettable and you can rely on the fact that cold fusion was not out to harm you or your corp in any way.
Ishkur	Posted - 2004.05.04 00:09:00 - [10] It really sucks that your only option is to abandon your corp. You shouldn't have to fight a war in Empire space unless you consent to it. Otherwise, what is the point of having CONCORD and security status at all? Non-consentual wars in Empire have run their course. Time to scrap it and come up with a better system, because this kind of issue is becoming a recurring theme in EVE. I've been talking to a lot of people who are fairly new to EVE and are being warred by very established corps, and I think it sucks. CCP needs to remedy this situation ASAP.
Senkoomtep	Posted - 2004.05.04 00:45:00 - [11] We found out that, unfortunately, my mate had gotten caught in the middle of a corp war trying out his new caracal. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and Cold Fusion is NOT trying to kos my corp members. :) The corp ceo graciously offered to make it right for him and we are very grateful. Woot! ___________________________________________ "Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed"
Cao Cao	Posted - 2004.05.04 00:59:00 - [12] Edited by: Cao Cao on 04/05/2004 01:00:18 Ishkur, I've got a great title for you to check out: clicky clicky. This is the type of game you are really looking for, please go preach your "consensual pvp" gheyness over there. Cao
Windghost	Posted - 2004.05.04 01:39:00 - [13] Originally by: Cao Cao Edited by: Cao Cao on 04/05/2004 01:00:18 Ishkur, I've got a great title for you to check out: clicky clicky. This is the type of game you are really looking for, please go preach your "consensual pvp" gheyness over there. Cao Would you enjoy it if someone caught you in a station in 0.0 and camped outside it in an interceptor for jamming and multiple battleships for weeks and even months until you quit EVE? Would you enjoy it if a 200-member corp declared war on your pathetic carebear-pirate corp and trapped you all in empire space stations until the corp disbanded?
Bigfoot Hunter	Posted - 2004.05.04 03:56:00 - [14] I highly doubt anyone could camp you to death 1: it is very very easy to hide in eve its a big universe 2: people get very bored of camping after awhile i served the sa c4 and ca in the past so i knwo how boring camping can be . 3: its not very hard to run blockades 4: Lastly you can always join a new corp -------------------------------------- Fortis cadere, cedere non potest
Torvus Jay	Posted - 2004.05.04 03:59:00 - [15] Ishkur, You could try reading the thread this is not about a CONCORD war its about KOS lists. Stop bringing your whining about non concentual war into every thread. It is a pvp game the vast majority of the playerbase does not see orange brakets at every empire gate. THATS why concord is their to protect most of the ppl most of the time not all of the ppl all of the time. There is not now and never can be a "concentual" war. Agreeing would make it a duel or a sporting competition not a war. Adapt or play another game. ______________ Aim careful, and look the devil in the eye.
Cao Cao	Posted - 2004.05.04 05:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Windghost Would you enjoy it if someone caught you in a station in 0.0 and camped outside it in an interceptor for jamming and multiple battleships for weeks and even months until you quit EVE? Would you enjoy it if a 200-member corp declared war on your pathetic carebear-pirate corp and trapped you all in empire space stations until the corp disbanded? Actually I wouldn't really care. It would be pretty funny that they would waste so many man-hours trying to keep us bottled up . But then again, we've fought those types of wars before, and it is usually us locking people into stations. Just ask Black Lotus Corporation. Cao
McWatt	Posted - 2004.05.04 09:44:00 - [17] very funny topic, again of course it turned out that it all was a missunderstanding. how can anyone seriously think a huge corp would waste time to gank a tiny noob corp??? it s a simple fact, it does not happen. just another abused stupid argument from idiots who want to ban war from high sec space, without wasting a thought on effects.
Bozl1n	Posted - 2004.05.04 13:31:00 - [18] OK after reading thru the comments made let me clear the issue up once and for all. There is no corp war involved at all in this incident. A CFI combat team were in beke (at least i think that was the name) pursueing a corp to which we have hostilites against due to them podding our newer members. Senkoomteps corp m8 arrived in the system mid way thru our search for our targets, as he arrived in the system, his info was checked, and i called him as KOS. This was due to the fact that there have been numerous corps assisting the people that we were after and he was flying a characal (which lets be fair is completly useless for doin anythin exept attacking players) and i didnt want to take any chances under the circumstances, which i wont bore u with here. I understand that CFI has put this situation right. I hope this clears the issue up. http:/eve-coldfusion.com
KIAHicks	Posted - 2004.05.04 14:38:00 - [19] Originally by: Ishkur It really sucks that your only option is to abandon your corp. You shouldn't have to fight a war in Empire space unless you consent to it. Otherwise, what is the point of having CONCORD and security status at all? Non-consentual wars in Empire have run their course. Time to scrap it and come up with a better system, because this kind of issue is becoming a recurring theme in EVE. I've been talking to a lot of people who are fairly new to EVE and are being warred by very established corps, and I think it sucks. CCP needs to remedy this situation ASAP. If you don't want to run the risk of a war in empire space then do not create a corp or join a corp. Stay in a newb corp. Joining a corp has advantages but also disadvantages. Its up to you to decide if the extra risk is worth the extra gains. Consensual war is fine, so long as their is always a limited way to wage none-consensual war. Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
Senkoomtep	Posted - 2004.05.04 18:47:00 - [20] Originally by: Bozl1n OK after reading thru the comments made let me clear the issue up once and for all. There is no corp war involved at all in this incident. A CFI combat team were in beke (at least i think that was the name) pursueing a corp to which we have hostilites against due to them podding our newer members. Senkoomteps corp m8 arrived in the system mid way thru our search for our targets, as he arrived in the system, his info was checked, and i called him as KOS. This was due to the fact that there have been numerous corps assisting the people that we were after and he was flying a characal (which lets be fair is completly useless for doin anythin exept attacking players) and i didnt want to take any chances under the circumstances, which i wont bore u with here. I understand that CFI has put this situation right. I hope this clears the issue up. Beke was exactly where it happened, and the issue is totally cleared up for us. The dead m8 was told by the guy that whacked him that our corp was KOS. We thought it was strange at the time but we've only been in EVE for a month so we weren't sure what was normal and what wasn't. Thanks for all the input on this issue...everything that happens to us, bad or good, just makes us better players. ___________________________________________ "Man is equally incapable of seeing the nothingness from which he emerges and the infinity in which he is engulfed"

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