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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.05.04 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Rancid Mare on 04/05/2004 11:28:16 here is this weeks thread were we all ask for an update on lvl4 agents.
here are the current known facts concerning lvl4 agents. 1. they are "level 4" 2. they are agents
i do hope this has helped to clear up any confusion.
as always keep any eye on the patchlog as this will be updated with-in hours of the patch going live.
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Eyeris
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Posted - 2004.05.04 11:30:00 -
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I feel enlightened 
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Faster ThanJesus
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Posted - 2004.05.04 11:34:00 -
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You forgot fact 3, "they are busy, go away"
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Amin
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Posted - 2004.05.04 13:48:00 -
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4. They'll be out "any day now" 
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Ertai Vodalion
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Posted - 2004.05.04 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ertai Vodalion on 04/05/2004 16:58:15
Quote: 1. they are "level 4"
are you sure about this one Rancid ?
They might be somewhere between 3.5 - 3.99 but the system will display them as being level 4
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.05.04 18:10:00 -
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Quote: You forgot fact 3, "they are busy, go away"
too busy to care for the player base ? thats gotta be a real bad business model for sure.
strikes me as rather simple.... imput = one man and 5 mins of his time output = usefull and requsted information for thousands of players
im not sure exactly how much code you can bang out in 5 mins..but im thinking that 5 mins of imput on the forum will pay dividens in keeping the playerbase informed and happy.. seems to be to be a most worthwhile and valueable use of 5 mins, but hey what do i know ?
Quote: 4. They'll be out "any day now"
Please Amin we are trying to stick to the solid confirmed facts. even if your statement is NOT untrue (as "any day now" can be tommorow next week next year etc). people might mistaken your comment to mean SOONtm, as if befor their next 6 monthly sub is due for renewal. so for this reason it cannot be included in the list of KNOW facts. sorry....
Quote: They might be somewhere between 3.5 - 3.99 but the system will display them as being level 4
LOL a referance to them saddos who argue the minisclue differance between having lvl 10 and lvl 9.999999 standings. a truley sad bunch who need to look at more prawn if you ask me.
however you may not know that lvl 3.5 agents were supposed to be intorduced. when i say lvl 3.5 i dont actulay mean they will say 3.5 BUT it was original stated (by Papa and has not been dismissed to this date) that the role of out lvl 4 agents whould be a two phase situation.
there was supposed to be a rapid deployment of "stop gap" lvl4 agents, with a handfull of more difficult kill missions to keep people happy. this would then be followed by a more comprehensive lvl4 agent system inc many types of senario missions / dungeons (what the hell happened to them methinks) etc.
what ever happened tp the lvl 3.5 agents i do not know. i can only assume we have not waited this long just for the first phase and it was decided to steam towards full lvl 4 deployment.
cheers for the heads up on that one ccp.
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.05.04 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Rancid Mare on 04/05/2004 18:12:16 double post. Opps
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.05.04 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Feta Solamnia on 04/05/2004 18:32:54
Quote: im not sure exactly how much code you can bang out in 5 mins..but im thinking that 5 mins of imput on the forum will pay dividens in keeping the playerbase informed and happy..
Well, if i remember correctly the estimated number of lines written in a software engineering project per person per day is about 20 (yes twenty) lines of code. So, according to my calculations, 5 mins of enlightening ppl costs about 0.01388888 lines of code.
Lets say that CCP is some lean-mean coding machine (i doubt that), and can punch out double that effort, still it does not go more than 0.03 lines of code for each line that will help thousands of ppl 
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Faster ThanJesus
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Posted - 2004.05.04 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Faster ThanJesus on 04/05/2004 18:44:41 Rancid, I was referring to what the lvl 4 agents usually say to me whenever I try and talk to them... Usually just after a patch I fly over in the hope that they just forgot to mention in the patch notes that lvl 4 are active, so I talk to them in the blind hope of getting a response along the lines of: "Ah, the competent one returns just in time to intercept the Gallente invasion fleet approaching New Caldari. This is an important mission and you will be awarded one unit of elite occular implant II upon completion."
For some unknown reason, I am always disappointed 
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Managalar
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Posted - 2004.05.05 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Faster ThanJesus
For some unknown reason, I am always disappointed 
I know the reason. It is because they tell you they have no time for the likes of you. =======Abaddon=======
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.05.05 04:44:00 -
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;(
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.05.05 08:59:00 -
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Holy Batman!!! To the whinemobile!!!
Are you still beating on this dead old horse?
I am sure the agents will be here as soon as they are ready. I seem to remember that you complained about kill missionis beeing too easy. Well, go out into 0.0 and hunt some nasty BS spawns or high-end cruiser spawns. Trust me, you'll be plenty challenged.
Ofc if you do not wish to leave the "safty" of Empire I can't really say anything but "cry me a river". -------------------------
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.05.05 16:29:00 -
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Quote: Well, go out into 0.0 and hunt some nasty BS spawns or high-end cruiser spawns. Trust me, you'll be plenty challenged. Ofc if you do not wish to leave the "safty" of Empire I can't really say anything but "cry me a river".
YOUR trying to sound like mr big potatoes by telling the Mare to go hunt in 0.0
      
thats so funny even my gran is crying with laughter and shes been pushing up daisey's for over 15 years.
i am Rancid Mare of EveMarshals. Members of the Fountain Alliance Based In Serp Prime (THATS 0.0 BTW) i was spawning in KBP (ALSO 0.0) when you was collecting roids for your first cruiser.
your telling me to go hunt in 0.0 man im still finding that halarious. trying to score points of the mare and falling flat on yer face. how newb can you get.
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.05.05 19:50:00 -
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when you was trying to teach the mare how to suck eggs. was this what you had in mind.. ??
LOL
Bad enuf spawn for you ?
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.05.06 09:22:00 -
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come on Mr Judicator
i wassssssss looking forward to your reply. if you have one that is.
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AbraKadaver
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Posted - 2004.05.06 09:36:00 -
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Quote: Ofc if you do not wish to leave the "safty" of Empire I can't really say anything but "cry me a river".
lol  ..:: Electro-shock therapy ::..
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.05.06 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: Judicator on 06/05/2004 17:39:23
Originally by: Rancid Mare when you was trying to teach the mare how to suck eggs. was this what you had in mind.. ??
LOL
Bad enuf spawn for you ?
You where born 20/06/03. May main char, who is now biomass because I exchanged him with Judicator was bnorn 11/05/03. Before that he played during the beta. Now you may have done this, but I was probably killing npcs before you.
Aside from that, I did not know that you where FA and frankly I dont care. You whine like a stung pig. You'd rather do ****ty agent missions than chain nice serp spawns?
Did someone hit you in the head?
and you know, nice spawn. No doubt. Wtfh do you want ****ty agent spawns over such a nice fat spawn?
Beats me. -------------------------
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.05.06 19:33:00 -
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Quote: You whine like a stung pig
i do ask questions and i do get the arse and on occasion post shirty comments.however everything i say is based on valid points.where as your intial post was based on what on trying to score a point or two.
given this i feel your somewhat hypocritical to have a pop at me for the content of my post.
Quote: You'd rather do ****ty agent missions than chain nice serp spawns? Did someone hit you in the head?
yes well i can appriciate why some people whould rather do one over the other. and i supposed i have to agree that big fat spawn beats running lvl3 agents anyday of the week.
however it cannot be argued that the Agent system is one of the primary paths for introduction of new bp etc into the game. when the RD agent system was introduced i made a decision to leave my home area and move to empire to work on these new agents, as i considered it a worthwhile effort and would eventualy benifit the corp.
i did make the trip back home only to hear of the new Zor mission and +4 plants. trip back to empire and then Zor gets removed (hence not happy about that), only to be TOLD that an initial lvl4 implementation was SOONtm.
so what to do ? fly home and hunt spawns, spend time with me corp mates etc or work on my pants agent in preperation for the lvl4s (which we all assume would be comming SOONtm sooner rather than SOONtm later) i made the decision to stay with the agent, again in the hope of a longer term benifit to the corp.
i EVEN talked a mate into joing the game with the sole purpose of flying gang on these supposed lvl4 missions, as it was reported way way back that this would definatley be a requirement.
fast forward 3 or 4 months.... not a word not a peep no updates no communication no nothing
a week or two ago i said *******s to it all my wingman and i flew back home.
i would suggest that many people currently running agents are doing so in preperation for the lvl4's, as each week passes their thinking it will be next week or the week after. but this never happens and when people ask they get flamed and derided on the forums from other players/IDS and even the odd gm like to get his lick in.
for the last 2-3 months as each week passes with out any info on lvl4s at all i have come to dislike the agent system horribly.
im not saying GIVE ME THE LVL4'S NOW I WANT SHIVA NOW STOP EVERYTHING YOUR DOING AND CARE FOR ME NOW
what i am saying is TALK WITH US.. ANSER OUR LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS... INCLUDE US IN THIS GAME.....
mabye now you can appriciate why somepeople (myself included) can get so anoyed and angry about the roll out of lvl 4 agents. all we want to know is whats going on..so that we can best prepair ourselves. if its going to be another 3 months then tell us, but do not make comments like soon or next few patchs and then go slient for another month.
my anger is not with you Judicator, you just happened to catch me at a bad point and make a comment which unlucky for you turned out to be a bit off the mark. and equaly unluck was the fact we found a BS spawn at the same time. hence providing me with the perfect screeny to sling back at you.
that was childish and not something a grown man ought to be doing. so for that i appologise.
however im still well not plused at CCP and i will continue to ask for information that i feel is relevant.
if we had a rough idea of whats going on then i chould both hunt with my corp and also prepair for lvl4 agents. however i fear that the lvl4's will be sprung upon us with the minimal if any notice at all, which is both wrong and impossible to prepair for.
is it so wrong for me to beleave things really ought to be better than they currently are with regards to CCP/community interaction ?
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.05.07 08:30:00 -
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Rancid Mare
You have some valid points. I even had them once. What I decided was to do what I like and not chase after some golden nugget.
Original Tech II can be very valuable and I cannot argue that some drops from agent missions are worth a lot and that the value might increase with better implants and whatnot.
CCP are crappy when it comes to telling the truth if you ask me. If I cared to do it I could pick out so many false and funny statements from CSM's. But I just don't care.
I play EVE and I do it how I want. I simply said to myself that I simply won't believe anything CCP says untill it's ingame. Then I might go and do agent missions or tr y and get new BPO's.
For now I PvP and kill NPC's because that is what I like. I've done agent missions, and I might even go back and do more or try and get tech ii/iii BPO's.
Play the game, do what you like. Be that PvP or NPC farming 24/7. But never believe CCP and frankly, just ignore what they say untill it's ingame.
Just my 2 cents. I am happier this way than constantly anticipating somethign that never arrives, or is constantly postponed. -------------------------
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