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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:12:00 -
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I just looked on CCP's official Item Database (on this very site), and I could not find the stats for the Black Ops ships.
Have they not yet been released? Are they a future patch? Or ... is this item database hopelessly outdated...
If it is the latter... ah... why? I can't wait to hear the excuse for this one...
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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:12:00 -
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I just looked on CCP's official Item Database (on this very site), and I could not find the stats for the Black Ops ships.
Have they not yet been released? Are they a future patch? Or ... is this item database hopelessly outdated...
If it is the latter... ah... why? I can't wait to hear the excuse for this one...
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DubanFP
Four Rings
Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 28/05/2008 00:13:49
 Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Or ... is this item database hopelessly outdated... .
this. Most of the older players are used to it by now.
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DubanFP
Four Rings
Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 28/05/2008 00:13:49
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
Or ... is this item database hopelessly outdated... .
this. Most of the older players are used to it by now.
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ReiAyanami> We bring you tidings of AARRRRRRRRR |
Caligulus
Colinear Exemptions
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tarron Sarik
I just looked on CCP's official Item Database (on this very site), and Or ... is this item database hopelessly outdated...
If it is the latter... ah... why? I can't wait to hear the excuse for this one...
CCP for some reason seems to be full of developers that can't be arsed into proper distribution of information to their players. This lack of proper descriptions, or actual documentation of game behavior is common with CCP.
When it comes down to it from the consumers perspective it absolutely screams incompetence, negligence and laziness.
...it's what you come to expect from EvE developers. They always miss the ******* obvious.
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DubanFP
Four Rings
Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Caligulus
Originally by: Tarron Sarik
I just looked on CCP's official Item Database (on this very site), and Or ... is this item database hopelessly outdated...
If it is the latter... ah... why? I can't wait to hear the excuse for this one...
CCP for some reason seems to be full of developers that can't be arsed into proper distribution of information to their players. This lack of proper descriptions, or actual documentation of game behavior is common with CCP.
When it comes down to it from the consumers perspective it absolutely screams incompetence, negligence and laziness.
...it's what you come to expect from EvE developers. They always miss the ******* obvious.
bitter much?
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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:47:00 -
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I am not actually trolling. This is a legit question and statement. WHY can't they be bothered to have an up-to-date item database. There really does not seem to be a single good reason I can think of why they couldn't/wouldn't.
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:49:00 -
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It's Black Ops. Perhaps they are so secret that they dont appear anywhere? 
Yes the Item DB pages on the website are usually outdated (sadly).
The Ships themselves however are in game.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2008.05.28 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
Yes the Item DB pages on the website are usually outdated (sadly).
This. For the longest time I used to believe that the Adv Learning skills required the basic skills trained up to level 5. Why did I think that? Cuz I read it in the item database. Imagine my embarassement when I found out the truth. Was a good lesson to always check EVERYTHING in game.
The item database is worthless. Since CCP cannot be arsed to update it on a consistent basis, they should just remove it completely. Or vend it out to a third party who can handle such a complex task.
Taxman IV: Rogue Agent
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KillinVillin
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.05.28 01:46:00 -
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It's just a part of eve that you will get over.
Rember the longer you play to find something out if longer that you play.
^putin on tin foil
it's the funest part, learning thing's threw experience.
Enjoy,
Killin
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.05.28 01:50:00 -
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They're not updating the stuff on the site, because there will be an ingame wiki for all of this.
EVE History Wiki
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AmTek
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.28 01:55:00 -
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OP: They are broken, in game and not on the website. 
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Tarron Sarik
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Posted - 2008.05.28 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
They're not updating the stuff on the site, because there will be an ingame wiki for all of this.
(not a personal attack, unless you are a Dev hiding in an alt  )
Ok, but I spoke to some buddies who have been in since '03 ... and they say the same thing. The damn thing has NEVER worked!
So how long, exactly, does a wiki take to make?
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Jascal
Nova-Tek
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Posted - 2008.05.28 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tarron Sarik
I am not actually trolling. This is a legit question and statement. WHY can't they be bothered to have an up-to-date item database. There really does not seem to be a single good reason I can think of why they couldn't/wouldn't.
I have heard some developers leave details out and make the players find out for themselves. Part of the challenge type thing.
Fine by me, but after 6 or so months after something is introduced, it would be nice to see the real deal, rather than the half-boiled truths oozing out of player guesses. Some wrong information takes years to erase simply because there is no authoritative confirmation of speculative guessing.
Instead new players get hit with all kinds of conflicting advice, making the game appear hopelessly confusing and hard to learn. In-game, official wiki would be super.
-Old and in the way
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2008.05.28 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
They're not updating the stuff on the site, because there will be an ingame wiki for all of this.
Nice idea, but what does an in-game wiki have to do with a website that is used OUT-of-game? |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.28 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cyberman Mastermind
Originally by: Reiisha
They're not updating the stuff on the site, because there will be an ingame wiki for all of this.
Nice idea, but what does an in-game wiki have to do with a website that is used OUT-of-game?
The wiki should be a resource available both in and out of game. It's also taking forever to get finished.
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sg3s
O.W.N. Corp
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.28 12:44:00 -
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You can get this information when you train your meta-gaming skill to lvl 4 atleast.
lvl 1 logoffski
lvl 2 forum*****
lvl 3 CAOD warrior
lvl 4 finding info you need and can use @ third party sites
lvl 5 logontraps
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Sphynx Stormlord
Snuff inc
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Posted - 2008.05.28 12:51:00 -
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At a guess, the forums and website were coded early on by one of their main programmers, who is probably responsible for far too many things.
It probably requires effort from him, to do a database update.
I wish that this was not so obvious from looking at the company for which I work.
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fuze
InfoMorph Services Ltd
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Posted - 2008.05.28 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
The wiki should be a resource available both in and out of game. It's also taking forever to get finished.
Why assume it ever will be finished? It's gonna be outdated at best.
And its part of the charm because Eve is a game for nerds (by nerds) anyway.
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Alora Venoda
GalTech
Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2008.05.28 14:33:00 -
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yeah i just evemon's built-in item/skill database instead, it's not only more up-to-date, but also contains more details, as well as being highly interactive and much easier to use.
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Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless.
Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application. |
Ioci
Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.05.28 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: Ioci on 28/05/2008 14:44:58
They didn't know what catagory to put it in. Battleship? I don't think so...
add on: They don't have Marauders either.. |
Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.05.28 14:38:00 -
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website is horribly out of date.
This is why tools like EFT are pretty much a must have.
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Haakon Jarl
direkte
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Posted - 2008.05.28 14:50:00 -
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The website is hoplessly outdated. A company that employs 800 people and cant keep their website uppdated speaks volumes.
In it for the state |
aka Ishur
Stormwolf Holdings LLC
Elite Trade Group
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Posted - 2008.05.28 15:26:00 -
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Actually last count was 305 employees...just sayin.....
The trouble with the Amarr is that they don't know what they want..but they will fight to the death to get it.. |
loony zoon
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Posted - 2008.05.30 00:49:00 -
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When eve launched, the beta daily DT was to end
Then ccp said they needed the DT for a while till the game bedded down
Now it is accepted.
We only have ourselves to blame
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The Slayer
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.05.30 02:06:00 -
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You know if they fixed this someone would moan that they were wasting time that could be better spent making new ships or new missions or whatever instead of wasting their time on the itemdb.
People never happy.
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