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Verx Interis
Aurora Security
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:45:00 -
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I'm starting up a trading alt, and while I actually know how to tank a hauler, I've heard people say that even their tanked transport ships got suicide ganked or that you can't carry anything worth more than 40m through space.
Do suicide ganks really happen this often, or is there 100 people who didn't get ganked for everyone one who whines about it?
Either way, I'll still be prepared, but I was wondering.
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nub> you cant mine so you kill.
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Puupuu
Latrocinium
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:48:00 -
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Train for a fast aligning blockade runner and never go AFK
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Verx Interis
Aurora Security
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Puupuu
Train for a fast aligning blockade runner and never go AFK
I know how to survive them. I was wondering if they really happened as often as the whines made it seem.
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nub> you cant mine so you kill.
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.05.29 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Verx Interis
Originally by: Puupuu
Train for a fast aligning blockade runner and never go AFK
I know how to survive them. I was wondering if they really happened as often as the whines made it seem.
There are people who make a living off of it.
Originally by: techzer0
I'm invincible until proven wrong
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Triksterism
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:10:00 -
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60% of the time, all the time.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:22:00 -
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every time you see a concord blob on a gate a suicide gank occurred that day
I'll let you judge
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Kehmor
PAK
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:30:00 -
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Suicide ganks are one of those things that never happen, except to you.
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Novemb3r
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:38:00 -
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I've been reading the general discussion forum and it haslead me to believe that suicide ganks happen every second. Someone is being ganked as we speak.
The same forums have informed me that every single lowsec system is camped by masses of pirates in cap ships ganking everything that comes through. In fact if you even think about carebearing within a 50 system radius of a lowsec system your ship explodes even if you are docked, you are podded and CCP gives all of your ISK to the nearest pirate then charges $50 to your credit card.
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AKULA UrQuan
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.05.29 07:50:00 -
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Spend alot of time just running around the major empire travel routes while keeping your eyes open (the imporant part). In time you'll learn who-is-who, where they like to hang out and at what time. Haveing a nanoed Blockade Runner that hits 5km/sec might come in handy as well but it's 90% information gathering tbh.
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Khraunus
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:11:00 -
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I suicide ganked a group of 3 miners and 1 trader untill they completely fled out of Minny space...
I see people lock on to me randomly at stargates, but it seems that putting in tons of random crap nobody wants along with a GSC to put the valuable stuff in can be a huge detterent. Most of them miss the valuable stuff because there's thousands of unpackaged civilian mods to sort through, or just don't want to take the risk when they don't know what the reward is.
Just stay alert and be smart. That's the best defence you have against losing a ship.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.05.29 08:49:00 -
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Just be smart about it. When moving a freighter with a ****ton of expensive stuff on board I have had multiple logistics ships accompany me. Also some ECM ships will help bigtime. Try having a huginn/rapier/hyena/inty in your gang to web your freighter to instawarp.
For smaller cargo use a cloaking recon or covert ops.
Medium cargo a blockade runner.
End of the day, if you can't afford losing it, dont autopilot.
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Johnny Gurkha
Wise Guys
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2008.05.29 10:52:00 -
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If no one AFK'd the suicide gank industry would die very quickly...
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.29 10:55:00 -
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In one evening in one .5 hi sec system while we were moving rigged ships we noticed 3 freighters get ganked and 1 hauler. This doesn't mean every .5 gets ganked but then again one of our former alliance corps is currently making a very nice living suicide ganking freighters, for example they got a freighter with about 5bil of moon goo that dropped.
With the low price of battleships vs insurance payout and the low price of mods coupled with the high volumes in freighters factors have combined to make suicide ganking very profitable and if you have 0.0 access to build up your sec status the hit is minimal. Unlike 0.0 or low sec there is nothing anyone can do to remove the gang before they fire and because freighters align so slowly you have time to warp in from close by so you don't have to sit on the gate and be scouted. So really it is risk free ISK.
Current counters are in corp reppers or ECM ships as escorts with scouts ahead.
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1tommo1
Task Force Zener
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.29 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Novemb3r
I've been reading the general discussion forum and it haslead me to believe that suicide ganks happen every second. Someone is being ganked as we speak.
The same forums have informed me that every single lowsec system is camped by masses of pirates in cap ships ganking everything that comes through. In fact if you even think about carebearing within a 50 system radius of a lowsec system your ship explodes even if you are docked, you are podded and CCP gives all of your ISK to the nearest pirate then charges $50 to your credit card.
I loled
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Raiven Parker
The Athiest Syndicate
INT0XICATI0N
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Posted - 2008.05.29 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Triksterism
60% of the time, all the time.
Made with bits of real panther.
It happens all the time m8. Just dont ap.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.29 12:45:00 -
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With 20,000 - 30,000 ppl online even if 0.1% gank summat in or around jita thats still 20 - 30 peeps ganking summat.
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Larkonis Trassler
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.05.29 13:56:00 -
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TBQH probably not that much proportionate to the amount of whinage on the forums. The people who get ganked and then whine about it are the hardcore bears who take their complaints to the forums no matter how trivial.
Some protips:
Never travel AFK
Use a blockade runner or covert ops/recon for low volume stuff.
If traveling with a freighter have a corpmate in a sensor boosted Hyena/Rapier to dual web you as soon as you decloak and start warping. You should instawarp. This is worth more than half a dozen logistic ships. A scout is useful too, the webber can fulfil this roll too.
So with two people or accounts you can make your freighter near invulnerable to suicide ganking. Webbing also cuts your travel time by about 1/4-1/3 depending on the size of the systems you are traveling through.
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