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Drayona
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Posted - 2008.05.29 15:17:00 -
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I am currently doing L2 missions and have noticed that the looting does not seem worth the time. I think I can make more ISK if I just hurry back to agent and do more missions. I assume looting gets better (worth it) later?
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Dani Leone
A Dark Cloud
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Posted - 2008.05.29 15:27:00 -
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Can you salvage yet? if not, learn it asap as it will help make the extra isk, some salvage parts, such as Alloyed Tritanium bars, can be worth over 500k isk each.
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.05.29 16:00:00 -
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Looting missions is generally good for stocking your own hangar with named modules you might use later. As a CEO I would always loot, then put stuff in a corporate hangar for everybody to "take one, leave one". But generally you don't make much ISK from it.
I suppose you could reprocess the stuff into minerals and then make ammo out of it. That's probably not the most economical way to get ammo but some people enjoy being self-sufficient and not having to spend any of their ISK.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.29 17:51:00 -
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I find loot in every other L2 mission worth around 500k or so and more frequently pieces worth well over 100k. I did a single L2 mssion that took all of fifteen minutes that had salvage materials worth 3-4mil. Comparatively, I did a single L3 mission that dropped a piece of loot worth 3-4mil (Serpentis Gold Tag).
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PI Staker
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Posted - 2008.05.29 22:53:00 -
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back when i was doing level 1 missions, (late '05, early '06) before salvaging, i found a cargo expander worth 9 million isk, which at the time, was ph47 13w7!!!111
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Harika Gulan
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Posted - 2008.05.30 07:44:00 -
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I don't know if it's worth the time or not - but I can't quite bear myself to leave it there.
I noticed though - that for a majority of the loot you get a lot more for it if you reprosess it and sell the minerals.
Or just spare the minerals for something worthwhile. I'm halvway to a cruiser just now 
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.05.30 13:22:00 -
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What I do, is every now and again, purge my hanger of collected loot.
When I do that, I take an item and first do a Show Market Details on it. I then click on Reprocess but don't say OK. I just look at it and cancel.
Using that process, I separate my loot into two groups. Those to sell and those to reprocess.
Now ... here I'm not so sure about whether this matters or not. But I've noticed that there were times when a single item would list something like 0 Zydrine. So, it had the mineral in it but was listing it as 0. I've interpreted this to mean (and I could be wrong) that it had some Zydrine in it but not enough to make a unit of Zydrine. So - for this reason, when I did my reprocessing, I'd do it all at once. That way if I had several modules I was reprocessing that had partial units in them, collectively I might get more minerals by reprocessing them together than just one or a few at a time. I really don't know if that's true though. It's just the way I've been doing it.
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Stela'Artois
Hatori Mining Services
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Posted - 2008.05.30 13:49:00 -
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The above advice isnt bad. The real answer is that it depends on how much money you currently have to outfit the next level ups mission ships. You will generally make quite a bit more money off of the loot/salvage than you will on the isk reward from the mission. This trend never stops.
So, if you are just starting EvE, then I say loot everything. Sell/refine everything. Make as much as you can on every single mission, and every single rat. Save that isk up.
A good general rule is to always have enough is on hand to completely replace the ship you are flying twice. This way, if you lose that ship, you can be back to work quickly. The lamentations of people who burn every isk they have on a brand new ship, only to lose it shortly after to a mission gone wrong, being jumped by pirates, or whatever fill the forums, and they get no sympathy.
This strategy is different for players who have been running missions for a while. I had the isk on hand to fund all of my ship purchases, before I started mission running. Therefore, I sped through level 1-2 missions, and only started looting/salvaging on the level 3 missions. In retrospect, I would probably skip level 3's next time. The amount you make on a level 4 compared to a level 3 is so extreme that it would only take 1 mission, maybe 2 to fully make up for any isk loss from not salvaging.
If I remember correctly the average level 3 mission would make me 2-3 million...the average level 4 brings in 10-20.
Long story short...unless you have the isk on hand to move quickly to a more difficult missions, then yes, earn as much as you can from loot/salvage.
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fencer35
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Posted - 2008.05.30 14:45:00 -
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On lvl 2,s as well
I loot and salvage everything!
Sometimes yo don't get much other times its worth it as there can be some good items.. landed an AB worth 1.5 mill yesterday.
And if you salvage too its worth it coz you never know when you can get a Tritanium bar or 2 or 3,
I just done a mission paying a measly 220000 inc bonus went back an looted/salvaged and turned it into a 4mill mission...
Is it worth it???............to me yes!!!
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Esmenet
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Posted - 2008.05.30 15:23:00 -
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The key to making looting worthwhile is doing it efficiently.
Try to gather your wrecks up in on spot instead of spreading it over 100's of kilometers by flying away.
Get a dedicated salvage ship like a destroyer with 4x tractors and 4x salvagers. Bookmark a wreck after you finish the mission and come back with your salvage ship to clear it all up in a few minutes.
Spend some time to learn what to sell and what to reprocess.
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Billy Sastard
Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2008.05.30 15:27:00 -
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Run missions in a drone ship (vexor/myrm/domi).
Fit tractors and salavgers in the highslots of your droneship.
Try to kill rats inside of 20km whenever possible.
Tractor wrecks and salvage as your drones kill.
You may run into annoying worthless things like metal scraps and cap booster charges. I jettison the metal scraps and leave cap boosters in the wrecks.
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Prisoner 257
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:08:00 -
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Personally I loot and salvage EVERYTHING. Reason being that 5k here and 10k there = 500k+ after a bit of collecting.
individually the single items dont immediately make me rich, but after collecting a few thousand rounds or 20 hull reppers, I can reprocess or sell the items for a good bit of isk.
Look at it as ROI, how much time do you spend reprocessing and salvaging vs how fast can you run missions without doing it. If A = 10 and B - A = 1000 then pure ignore loot mission running is the fastest way at the expense of potential named loot and having surplus gear.
I have helped more then one noob out by just giving them my mission loot to do with as they please. It cost me nothing to get and benefits them by it being free.
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Tsiros
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Posted - 2008.05.30 16:28:00 -
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Dont know if i am correct but with salvage i have seen that different rats have different salvages. so it actually might worth changing area purelly for it.
if the same apply for loot i dont know to tell you
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voetius
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Posted - 2008.05.30 17:49:00 -
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I agree with all the above as well - and collect that loot - but especially if you need the ISK. As said above, some named / rare items can be worth a bit, I've personnally collected a couple of Beta Reactor Control Units at 2 mill. a pop recently.
If you can tank it then just stop your ship and blast away - keeps all the wrecks nicely clustered up. I try and fit an afterburner is poss. as this can double your speed with a couple of short training levels - get round the wrecks twice as quick.
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Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.05.30 17:52:00 -
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Why leave things of value, regardless of how little, float around in space and vanish.
If your new like me every isk helps.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.30 21:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Bleeshtar
Why leave things of value, regardless of how little, float around in space and vanish.
If your new like me every isk helps.
because you can instead go and kill rats of greater value instead of flying around looting and salvaging for little value.
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.05.31 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tsiros
Dont know if i am correct but with salvage i have seen that different rats have different salvages. so it actually might worth changing area purelly for it.
if the same apply for loot i dont know to tell you
It's true. Guristas drop shield boosters and missile launchers, Angels drop projectiles and afterburners, Blood raiders drop capacitor rechargers and armor repairers, and so on. Mercenaries drop the best loot (but crappy salvage).
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ac0lite
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Posted - 2008.05.31 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: ac0lite on 31/05/2008 00:17:16
Also, another factor is enjoyment. Everyone in this topic has adressed the Isk/time ratio for looting and salvaging, but whether you actually enjoy doing it is also a sizeable factor.
I have yet to find a person who actually does like flying toward wrecks in space, waiting desperatly to click as soon as that distance counter hits X km, but if you have the time to burn, whack on the radio or check your emails while salvaging or looting, these are things that you can constantly stop doing to approach the next wreck, but which also fill up the time between wrecks quite nicely!
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