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Zhang Ramses
Chaos From Order
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Posted - 2008.05.29 18:55:00 -
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I've watched this forum for about a year now, and I don't think I've ever seen so many requests for mercenaries before (I'm not complaining). I remember periods of days and even weeks where there was no public interest in hiring mercs. Would anyone care to speculate why this is?
Are there more predatory wardec groups that people need protection from?
Is there enough competition over limited resources (tasty lowsec moons, etc) that paying someone else to clear them is now worthwhile?
Is the demand the same but the requests are now just more publically made?
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Hammerfail CEO
Hammerfail Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Hammerfail CEO on 29/05/2008 19:04:37
I'd say it's down to the success of Hammerfail Industries, people are realising they don't have to sit around and let bullies kick sand in their face when there are corps like mine around.
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MarleWH
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:25:00 -
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hahahahhahahahaha
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Ovek
The Ludovico Technique
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ovek on 29/05/2008 19:59:36
 Originally by: Hammerfail CEO
Edited by: Hammerfail CEO on 29/05/2008 19:04:37
I'd say it's down to the success of Hammerfail Industries, people are realising they don't have to sit around and let bullies kick sand in their face when there are corps like mine around.
Indeed,
i'd probably say the quiet periods were due to corps such as yours and well decent corps didn't have "quiet periods" anyway, those with reputation have an inclination to get a convo ingame rather than having to scrounge from the forum like penniless paupers.
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Drayco
The Skype Brotherhood
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Posted - 2008.06.01 08:41:00 -
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its more so to the fact that alot of players are running into issues with bullies. isk is also a major factor aswell. due to mission runners and miners wallets now filling up and collecting dust. this money is burning a hole in their pockets. so im assuming in their eyes. what better way to spend money then to get even with or attack a corp you dont agree with.
now as for the spring up of new merc corps. well thats just weekend warriors thinking they have balls to be a merc/pirate. most of these corps wash out in 2 to 3 months.
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Valandril
Epic Fail Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hammerfail CEO
Edited by: Hammerfail CEO on 29/05/2008 19:04:37
I'd say it's down to the success of Hammerfail Industries, people are realising they don't have to sit around and let bullies kick sand in their face when there are corps like mine around.
I'm posting in hammerfail thread!
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.01 09:20:00 -
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I'd say it's because that a large group of people in EVE fail at fighting for themselves. Probably always been that way, so there's always work for the wicked (or only somewhat wicked) 
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Fedor Emilianenko
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:55:00 -
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It's due to low-sec pirates not having anyone to kill, so not all but many now do empire wars instead, griefing the cuddlies more than before.
This in turn means the cuddlies need more merc corps to protect them.
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Draximus Cane
Infected.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 12:27:00 -
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Being a merc is Sooooooooo 2005
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.06.01 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zhang Ramses
I've watched this forum for about a year now, and I don't think I've ever seen so many requests for mercenaries before (I'm not complaining). I remember periods of days and even weeks where there was no public interest in hiring mercs. Would anyone care to speculate why this is?
Are there more predatory wardec groups that people need protection from?
Is there enough competition over limited resources (tasty lowsec moons, etc) that paying someone else to clear them is now worthwhile?
Is the demand the same but the requests are now just more publically made?
Actually... I don't know what it's like for ALL the merc corps in Eve, but I know what it's like for a couple... and, mercs are pretty much in constant demand. I'd say the demand outstrips the supply. We haven't had a break in action since we started. Look at it, you've got a whole market operating here.
You've got your lower end mercs, and startup merc joints, which are generally effective and very very affordable... then you get your mid-range tactical outfits, with capitals and such, for the mid-sized corporations' defence needs... and you have your ultra-expensive strategic mercenaries, the kind that can bring an entire alliance's worth of capships to the field, or ruin an alliance through subtlety (hehe). All these mercs, competing to offer you the lowest price on your murder. Beautiful isn't it?
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Ard UnjiiGo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.06.01 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
I'd say it's because that a large group of people in EVE fail at fighting for themselves. Probably always been that way, so there's always work for the wicked (or only somewhat wicked)
This.
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Garmon
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2008.06.01 18:02:00 -
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cos of dirty little snakes and scoundrels like oodin
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.06.01 18:28:00 -
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More carebears with more ISK are gettign wardecked, and more PVP newbies eager for fights are offering bargain-basement merc rates. All in all it's a good market for sellers and buyers both.
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zhang Ramses
I've watched this forum for about a year now, and I don't think I've ever seen so many requests for mercenaries before (I'm not complaining). I remember periods of days and even weeks where there was no public interest in hiring mercs. Would anyone care to speculate why this is?
Are there more predatory wardec groups that people need protection from?
Is there enough competition over limited resources (tasty lowsec moons, etc) that paying someone else to clear them is now worthwhile?
Is the demand the same but the requests are now just more publically made?
The answer is simple, it's beacause im back and active and looking for merc work.
What can i say, im popular.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.02 22:47:00 -
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Good economy, larger population. Private requests also outstrip the number of public ones, at least in my experience.
The demand is definatly there, supply continues to seesaw. I remember alot of merc corps starting up or reorienting themselves to merc work back in Jan when i started Noir. As far as I know, we're the only ones left, the others disbanded or got out for whatever reason. I think it'll always be the case there's new, middle age, old merc out fits with varying arrays of quality and cost. Buyers market, if you will.
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Reboro
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Posted - 2008.06.02 22:53:00 -
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You are all wrong, thanks goes to ôchinese isk farmersö! Now our friends can actually afford protection lol |
Janet Marshall
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Posted - 2008.06.02 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hammerfail CEO
Edited by: Hammerfail CEO on 29/05/2008 19:04:37
I'd say it's down to the success of Hammerfail Industries, people are realising they don't have to sit around and let bullies kick sand in their face when there are corps like mine around.
=) I support anyone who can shamelessly self promote themselves!
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.06.03 01:49:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 03/06/2008 01:49:22
Personally I get the feeling that the whole merc business is a bit slow so they make their own alts to try and fake contracts and/or advertise by replying that they're in the merc business.
I've been known to be wrong on occasion though.
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Rawr Cristina
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.06.03 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
I'd say it's because that a large group of people in EVE fail at fighting for themselves. Probably always been that way, so there's always work for the wicked (or only somewhat wicked)
I'd say it's because techzer0 keeps griefing 
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Jakke Logan
F Off And Die
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Posted - 2008.06.03 02:18:00 -
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I'd say it comes down to a few factors...
1. Supply. There are a lot of pirates who think they are good enough to become mercs and actually take on real PVP'ers instead of can flipping noobs mining in Ospreys. So there are a lot of new merc corps/alliances springing up, thus stimulating demand for their services. To my knowledge there really has only been one band of mercs who actually ever had a major impact, and that was MC. Which failure cascaded shortly after failing miserably in a contract vs SmashKill.
2. Demand. The growth in griefing natually has those who have ISK, but not numbers or fighting skills/experience to hire mercs to do the fighting for them. Which may work out. Most mercs are maybe at best a cut above the likes of the now defunct Racketeers type pirates (and probably came from like corps), so thus might actually be effective at bullying the bullies.
Honestly, no well constructed corporation or alliance should ever need mercenaries. A successful organization in EVE has to have BOTH carebears to handle mining/industry/logistics, AND Pvp'ers. No unit in this game can survive as one without the other.
But I digress. The major consumer of mercenaries are the carebear corps. Hire mercs the first time, but before the second time rolls around, get yourself some people who can and want to fight! Rich, industrial/mining corps without a strong fighting force is exactly the low hanging fruit the griefers crace.
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