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Spyzor4tloszor
Spyzor4twinzor Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:20:00 -
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Well it looks like ol "Darth Solo" aka "The Dark" has fallen asleep in the "Ima Liar Class 101" at Sheep Uni once again. Quote: Only i know exact details so lets clear it up.
Iv been trying to find a way of getting your stuff out of QCWA for a month now. i said from the start that i would and i always do what i can.
a few options came up, none of which id have done because of its being of a higher risk. 1 option though did look good.
Jotram who has been with us a long time and was a trusted leader said he had an alt and that he could maybe get it in pure.... then all he would need to do buy a carrier and move to QCWA. Jotram has been helping alliance leadership for months now and doing a good job. everyone trusted him and no1 had any reason not to.
I thought "perfect".. this will give us the best chance of success, i obviously had to keep it quiet as i didnt want him being blown up on his first run.. the reasons i said it was a freighter in my mails was that i wanted to make it look like jotram was doing it with his own char and not on the pure alt. If they knew it was just a carrier then obviously they would know the char had to be in pure. so i bought him the carrier to speed it up, he says ok hes ready to go.
I knew we would need to keep it as quiet as possible as he would be doing multiple runs. i thought maybe 10 runs with 20 ppls gear.. never did i think you would all hand over every single thing you owned. It seems it was never planned, but the tempation was too much for him, we are to blame for that, i think he was a young kid.
be warned though, if i see anyone else question if i was involved again ill erase every part of you ever existing. ISK has never driven me, NEVER question my honesty.
1. Only you know the exact details? Wow, and let me guess you had nothing to do with it. First lie
2. You have been trying to figure a way to get our stuff out for months? Yeah casue your had been out for over 2. Second Lie
3. This was planned months ago, well when were you going to tell the general membership about us giving up on the region, darth ol buddy. Maybe we would of left with some dignity, our heads help up nad with all our gear. Third Lie.
4. You said you wanted to keep this quiet, so no one would know who was taing the stuff out of QCWA, wow but you made 3 alliance mails and post on our forums about this. Not to quiet is it. Fourth Lie
5. On the 22nd of May the plan is in place, and on the 23rd you resign as the alliance leader becasue u were tired of getting 100 convos aday. More like you hit the jackpot and got 100 contracts a day. LIES LIES LIES
6. Quote: [SEX-GOD]darth solo Post subject: Re: Jotram is a thief ?
You lied here buddy, you said with an alt he would get into pure, when you said earlier he had an alt in pure, which is it. Quote: he was a in the leadership and in INSRG for a long time, he said he could get the stuff out by using an alt which he would get into pure, i bought him a carrier so he could jump out all your stuff... i was only thinking of helping u guys its pretty sad that sum think im to blame.
I am confused, oh wait no I am not. LIE LIE LIE
This saddens me and sickens me that you of all people, who we trusted has failed at helping your fellow corpmates and members. Thanks for the big kick in the teeth. Should we hang out for the "Big things are happening lads, stay logged in" speech you give every night and then log off. Thanks a lot Darth Solo, you liar
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hi2urpod
Sardaukar Merc Guild The Grey Legion
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:23:00 -
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first.
and gtfo Fighting for peace is like f00king for virginity... makes no sense. |
Naomi Wildfire
Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:34:00 -
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neverending dramabombs ... oh dear
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Agmar
Game-Over Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:34:00 -
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I guess you are too ashamed of your main to post with it.
But, for the record, Jotram's theft would be the equivalent of myself, Daco, or C4 running off with your stuff. Sure, it can happen, but it is not something that you would have thought possible.
Theft is a part of the game, yes. But when it happens from someone that was a trusted and respected member of the alliance, it is nearly impossible to stop.
Recruiting. |
ishkabibble
Black Avatar Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:42:00 -
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Trusting someone with all your stuff takes guts, especially when your hands are tied like in this situation where you had to surrender your trust to someone else. But to blame the person that was doing his best to help out with the situation is stupid.
Blame yourself for lack of foresight and preparation. NYC gets Rick Roll'd |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:43:00 -
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Shame peopel are stupid enough to trust peopel
"Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time" |
Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:46:00 -
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oh btw hehulk use your main
"Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time" |
Mal Plox
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:47:00 -
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I, for instance, have no idea what it is you are talking about... but i am curious ---
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:50:00 -
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God I love Eve for stuff like this.
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Cassiuss
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:56:00 -
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The STK/blackout thread has waaay more drama, emorage and corp theives.
I spit on this thread.
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.05.29 19:57:00 -
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Honestly, this is the first time I heard of this (ignored the other thread) and even I can tell you got major reading comprehension issues. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:02:00 -
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Corp thieving sucks. It's one of those mechanics in eve that are not properly implemented.
The op is right in one thing though. There's been so many false promises by INSRG leaders to their members it's astounding that they still follow their leaders reasonably well.
Particularly the dozen's of "allies will come this time and help us with that" posts that never seem to materialise. Now I don't know if it's the INSRG leaders that are flat out lying or if their allies just promise **** they don't deliver but anyway, as a member it'd be pretty ******* tired of getting my hopes up. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |
Spyzor4twinzor
Spyzor4twinzor Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 the thief in question was the ceo of a corp that merged into helios.
he was contracted items to jump out of stations that we had lost, he stole it all. not rly insrg's fault now is it?
Well since I havent posted in a while, I will give th real scoop. The theft was orchestrated by no other that Darth Solo and Butter Dog. Here is how it went down.
1. Darth SOlo tell the alliance to give everything to Jotram. He is going to get an alt into pure and jump everything out with 2 freighters he bought. But the story changes half way thru and it ended up being 1 carrier was going to move over 2 bill M3 in assets out of the station in QCWA.
This was on the 22nd of May
Quote: make contracts to jotram... he will organise it. we have bought 2 freighters in qcwa and will move stuff this way when its quiet.
only 1 bs per member, ideally, no bs.. just important gear, no crap. basically stuff u will need. we also have quite a few carriers in the station which will move cruisers sized important expensive ships also. its been planned for a while and we are now good to go. no rush though, like i say we will pick our time, could take a a day, could be a month. as we cant redock we cant take chances.
do this before weekend.
The next day darth solo steps down as head of the allaince and the plan is set into action, with none other than Butter Dog, the biggest theif in Eve Hisotry with ISS and the billions and nillions of isk ISS stole from the ******s that bought into the station gold mine.
4 Days later Butter Dog conveinces his corp to leave with the said token booty. His corp is none the wiser casue it hasnt really broke out ont he forums yet. There were a few question of where is jotram but all were crushed by co-ceos and other HC leaders.
So under the vale of a smoke screen Butter Dog gets all the gear out and into safe space, while people are starting to get pitch forks and torches out ready a linching.
2. This is where I feel sorry for the lonely grunt, who is the pvper and is the one getting it in the butzor. The contract and contract and contract till the cows come home, jotram is even convoing and eve mailing every person in alliance to make them contract all there gear to him. Hell Jotram hasnt even been on vent for over a month since the z-k fight. The masses are getting worried and darth is secretly moving there gear out via Butter Dog.
There is this post and all hell breaks lose in the forums
Quote: Jotram is a thief ?
This is the only way I can get his attention.
I traded him about 50 Giant Secure containers that he said he could carry.
Now he blocks me and yesterday he said that 9 carriers were going to take all the stuff out. (how are 9 carriers going to take out 900k of stuff ?)
I WANT ANSWEARS NOW !!!
oh yea, did I mention he blocked me when I tried to ask him for the stuff ?
and Jotrams alt in the forums [Helios] Fudgefairy replies with 2 post
Quote:
o7 + 90bill isk ty insrg you can remove me from this forum now good luck
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Quote: you can blame him, at that time i was legit, and was ready to ferry your assets out, but every man has a price, and that price was handed to me.
especialy after a certain corp gave me a mothership component set (well its missing a few parts)
Well Darth Solo forgot he said he had 2 frieghters to get the stuff out, but now changed the story in the thread to
Quote: [SEX-GOD]darth solo Post subject: Re: Jotram is a thief ?Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:33 pm
he was a in the leadership and in INSRG for a long time, he said he could get the stuff out by using an alt which he would get into pure, i bought him a carrier so he could jump out all your stuff... i was only thinking of helping u guys its pretty sad that sum think im to blame.
Sorry my sister left a few thigns out, I updated this since she was out getting her hair styled
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 29/05/2008 20:13:07 The OP is pathetic (and I have a pretty good idea who your main is, you are indeed a sad individual, might be an idea to back off with the posting).
What darth has written is the truth from his perspective. Of course certain 'white lies' are always told in the course of alliance life, to throw spies off the scent. Thats large, spy riddled alliances for you. Thats how things work. I believe the term is 'red herring'.
If you can't understand this, you're more in need of help than I originally thought. Grow up.
edit: And if you think that I had anything to do with the corp theft, which is a ridiculous notion, well, I will give a nominated and trusted third party my full API key to prove otherwise.
Anything else? ----------
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:14:00 -
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I heard of one other guy that called Darth a liar... They only found a bloody shoe, half a tampopn, and he was never seen again.
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Jotram
Sky Net Industries Pure.
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:14:00 -
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darth solo trusted me, and i do feel guilty for that. he is not to blame. please do not blame him for my actions,
i can also confirm darth still had assets in qcwa so number 2 is wrong. he left them there so other members could get stuff out.
oh and also
:drama:
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Gormur
Prominence Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:16:00 -
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jotram and butter posting within 5 mins. Epic fail
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Spyzor4twinzor
Spyzor4twinzor Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:16:00 -
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Well I dont understand why when we ask this question on our forums we get no reply:
Quote: [CORP1] RagnarH Post subject: Re: The theftPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:03 pm
Darth, u said in your posts ON FORUMS that jotram had freighter there and was getting it out. U dont think the spies would notice that ?
And dont u think the NC would cargo scan every friendly freighter ?
Why did u tell us to transfer all stuff to him ?
To a char u did not have acces to ?
I offered to help on this. Mamerjamer was going to get an ark in QCW and get it out. Char that c4 can acces. But u rather trusted jotram then trusting us in corp1 ? why did u do that ?
Also. u can leave the this was not planned jotram (I know he can't read this, just tellin)
He said to me when I contracted my stuff to him that NC was going to escort his ship to pf-
(and before u go all emo on me AGAIN, these are just legit questions. For an alliance leader u should have used more common sense tbh)
My moma said "Life is like a box of chocolate, you never know whats inside" I may be a stupid man but I am no thief
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Butter Dog
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gormur jotram and butter posting within 5 mins. Epic fail
Yes, the notion that two people in euro prime timezone could be online and reading a thread about them at the same time is, truly, astounding.
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:23:00 -
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anyone that has ever known darth knows this is 10% bull****. i wish the OP could grow a spine, what you're doing is as bad as what jotram did, but **** at least jotram had the stones do do it with his main you ******* *****
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Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Solo NEVER question my honesty.
The truth will set you free
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 anyone that has ever known darth knows this is 10% bull****.
Brilliant --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |
Spyzor4twinzor
Spyzor4twinzor Corp
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Chip2k3 anyone that has ever known darth knows this is 10% bull****. i wish the OP could grow a spine, what you're doing is as bad as what jotram did, but **** at least jotram had the stones do do it with his main you ******* *****
So whats the other 90%? LIES LIES LIES
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Chip2k3
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:28:00 -
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:facepalm:
epic spelling error tbh
MEMBER OF TEAM TURBOÖ |
MineralOel Steuer
OP EC
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: MineralOel Steuer on 29/05/2008 20:34:18 wrote it this morning: To be honest, I think darth solo, RangarH and/or Agmar will rob Insurgency so bad, even Krall Amarr would blush like a 5 year old girl. |
RichThugster
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:41:00 -
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Insurgency can i have your stuff?
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Jonaswpl
Game-Over Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: MineralOel Steuer Edited by: MineralOel Steuer on 29/05/2008 20:34:18 wrote it this morning: To be honest, I think darth solo, RangarH and/or Agmar will rob Insurgency so bad, even Krall Amarr would blush like a 5 year old girl.
Who the **** are you to accuse Agmar? You are a bitter, miserable, hateful, hide-behind-an-alt-because-you-don't-have-the-balls-to-post-with-your-main **** rag.
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ForumBiatch
FailsurgencySpyzor
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: ForumBiatch on 29/05/2008 20:49:00 insrg fails in soooo many ways
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Boom ChickaBoom
Friendly Pod Poppers
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Gormur jotram and butter posting within 5 mins. Epic fail
Yes, the notion that two people in euro prime timezone could be online and reading a thread about them at the same time is, truly, astounding.
Hows jita?
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Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.05.29 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Gormur jotram and butter posting within 5 mins. Epic fail
Yes, the notion that two people in euro prime timezone could be online and reading a thread about them at the same time is, truly, astounding.
Hows jita?
Great, most of us is playing age of conan
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