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Miss 10percent
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Posted - 2008.06.01 19:55:00 -
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Bearing in mind that...
"The strongest argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter"
Can we have some confirmation from CCP that the CSM is not going to be a carte blanche for populist measures that may serve some peoples self-interest, but ultimately damage the game that I enjoy.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.01 21:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Miss 10percent
Bearing in mind that...
"The strongest argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter"
Can we have some confirmation from CCP that the CSM is not going to be a carte blanche for populist measures that may serve some peoples self-interest, but ultimately damage the game that I enjoy.
All the CSM has the right to do is forward suggestions and ask for information - it's not like CCP just gave 9 randoms access to the source code. If CCP thinks a given suggestion is bad for the game, they just won't implement it. I don't have a single quick quote handy, but this was made pretty clear in the CSM founding documents.
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Sabine Demsky
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Posted - 2008.06.01 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Miss 10percent
Bearing in mind that...
"The strongest argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter"
Can we have some confirmation from CCP that the CSM is not going to be a carte blanche for populist measures that may serve some peoples self-interest, but ultimately damage the game that I enjoy.
All the CSM has the right to do is forward suggestions and ask for information - it's not like CCP just gave 9 randoms access to the source code. If CCP thinks a given suggestion is bad for the game, they just won't implement it. I don't have a single quick quote handy, but this was made pretty clear in the CSM founding documents.
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Miss 10percent
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Posted - 2008.06.01 21:15:00 -
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The CSM is a soapbox.
This game has a history of caving in to whining and therefore giving people a more effective medium to whine can be destabilising as they will feel that their ideas have some more legitimacy.
The most popular decision is not always the right one.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.01 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Miss 10percent
The CSM is a soapbox.
This game has a history of caving in to whining and therefore giving people a more effective medium to whine can be destabilising as they will feel that their ideas have some more legitimacy.
The most popular decision is not always the right one.
Yes, occasionally(though not often enough, IMO), I think you care way too much about the mindset of whiners, and it's also not always the wrong one.
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Miss 10percent
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Posted - 2008.06.01 21:33:00 -
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If your country held a referendum tomorrow and the question was 'do you want to halve income tax' what response would you get?
I trust CCP to run this game they have for 5 years...why do we need a say now?
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.01 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Miss 10percent
If your country held a referendum tomorrow and the question was 'do you want to halve income tax' what response would you get?
I trust CCP to run this game they have for 5 years...why do we need a say now?
Frankly, I think such a referendum would fail - we Canadians like our taxes far too much(or, at least, we're way too stoic about "Well, it's going to a good cause...").
As for why we need a say, why don't you ask CCP that? They did this of their own accord. Maybe it's marketing the game. Maybe it's an attempt to create an actual process for dealing with whine threads instead of ad-hoc dev responses. Maybe it's because they want to broaden the whine thread process a bunch, so you actually get people on both sides of the debate instead of just the usual "/signed", and thereby get a better feel for what the players really think. Maybe they realize that the player base has a lot of good ideas, if you can just filter out the crap, and as such they want to set up a system to take advantage of those ideas. Or maybe they just think it'll be funny to watch. Who knows? The point is, it's here, and I'd like to see it succeed a lot more than I'd like to see it implode.
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Christy Walton
Bloodveil
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Posted - 2008.06.02 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Miss 10percent
The CSM is a soapbox.
This game has a history of caving in to whining and therefore giving people a more effective medium to whine can be destabilising as they will feel that their ideas have some more legitimacy.
The most popular decision is not always the right one.
Soapbox is a light reference. Consider it's current chairman, the current issues and the real added value to the game and other references would come to mind.
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