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Syzygy
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Posted - 2004.05.06 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Syzygy on 06/05/2004 19:49:51 Here are some interesting chat logs from the CA leaders on there "FINAL SOLUTION"
[ 2004.05.05 23:47:25 ] BobGhengisKhan > why are you in empire [ 2004.05.05 23:47:26 ] Zelota > you definetly cant do things on your own [ 2004.05.05 23:47:30 ] BobGhengisKhan > WTF [ 2004.05.05 23:47:41 ] Zelota > no we are gona do someting worse than any thing els bob [ 2004.05.05 23:47:49 ] Zelota > we are gona do what the other's do [ 2004.05.05 23:47:56 ] BobGhengisKhan > Why are you saying we cant do it alone [ 2004.05.05 23:47:59 ] BobGhengisKhan > when you have 30 allied corps [ 2004.05.05 23:48:00 ] Zelota > you play cowards by inviting stupid people into this war [ 2004.05.05 23:48:03 ] BobGhengisKhan > We have 20 people [ 2004.05.05 23:48:16 ] Zelota > we will play cowards by not even fighting you [ 2004.05.05 23:50:51 ] Zelota > look at it this way [ 2004.05.05 23:51:01 ] Zelota > half of curse dosent want to fight [ 2004.05.05 23:51:11 ] BobGhengisKhan > then kick them out and kill them all. [ 2004.05.05 23:52:01 ] Zelota > bob [ 2004.05.05 23:52:08 ] Zelota > you got cowards backing you up [ 2004.05.05 23:52:13 ] Zelota > useing you to atack us [ 2004.05.05 23:52:16 ] BobGhengisKhan > Who [ 2004.05.05 23:52:16 ] Zelota > wen we find out [ 2004.05.05 23:52:23 ] BobGhengisKhan > you cant prove whos paying us [ 2004.05.05 23:52:32 ] Zelota > your legs will be cut off and your ships will be taken m8t [ 2004.05.05 23:54:49 ] Zelota > no bob [ 2004.05.05 23:54:57 ] Zelota > you havent beaten any thing but n00bs [ 2004.05.05 23:56:47 ] Zelota > votf is trying to survive bob [ 2004.05.05 23:57:26 ] Zelota > we cant caus we cant replace ships any more [ 2004.05.05 23:57:40 ] Zelota > your only fighting the corporatinos that are willing to fight [ 2004.05.06 00:19:17 ] Zelota > bob [ 2004.05.06 00:19:30 ] Zelota > in frikn 20 days [ 2004.05.06 00:19:37 ] Zelota > you will be beging for mercy [ 2004.05.06 03:01:17 ] XirtamVotf > m00 and evol had to hire shotloads to do what they couldnt [ 2004.05.06 02:01:58 ] BobGhengisKhan > Have you figured out how much were being paid [ 2004.05.06 02:02:21 ] XirtamVotf > ya FA is paying you so what [ 2004.05.06 02:02:59 ] XirtamVotf > how much ? [ 2004.05.06 02:15:30 ] XirtamVotf > we have killed at leat 90 in 3 days [ 2004.05.06 02:16:19 ] XirtamVotf > that means m00 sucks since you only killed **** since atuk joined :) [ 2004.05.06 01:58:30 ] BobGhengisKhan > How long do you plan on attacking empire space or whatever [ 2004.05.06 01:58:40 ] XirtamVotf > werein hlw [ 2004.05.06 01:58:48 ] XirtamVotf > what are you talking about [ 2004.05.06 01:58:59 ] BobGhengisKhan > youre in pator [ 2004.05.06 01:59:19 ] XirtamVotf > no we have the new claoking devices were in hlw
Gotta Love it 
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Friday Dillinja
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Posted - 2004.05.06 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Syzygy
[ 2004.05.06 03:01:17 ] XirtamVotf > m00 and evol had to hire shotloads to do what they couldnt [ 2004.05.06 02:01:58 ] BobGhengisKhan > Have you figured out how much were being paid [ 2004.05.06 02:02:21 ] XirtamVotf > ya FA is paying you so what
I don't quite get this. In one line Xirtam is accusing MO0 and EVOL for hiring "shotloads to do what they couldnt" and in the next line he is accusing FA of paying them?
HUH?

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Resurrectio
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:01:00 -
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some 1 has to say it,
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Stained on 06/05/2004 20:11:30 I don't know whether to laugh or be sad. If They're really not gonna fight us then it's been one hella short war.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Syzygy Edited by: Syzygy on 06/05/2004 19:49:51 [ 2004.05.05 23:52:23 ] BobGhengisKhan > you cant prove whos paying us
    
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Tsietisin
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:22:00 -
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Quality thread title Syzgy m8 
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:37:00 -
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Well Syzygy, i am sure you know how easy it is to fake a chat log but i am sure the upstanding members of the well respected m0o corp would never think of doing anything like that....
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Syzygy
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tsietisin Quality thread title Syzgy m8 
ya for some reason it wouldnt let me put CA's "FINAL SOLUTION"
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:46:00 -
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Well Shiwan, the chat log with Xirt and Redon went on for about a half hour, I could send the whole damn thing if you like. I dont want to post it on the forums, cause it gets a little ridiculous, just convo me
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 06/05/2004 20:55:02 i find it both believable and understandable; i just find Bob's line i quoted amusing in light of Zap's recent hate-filled spew about being paid, everyone's a liar but him, etc. He's really the Moe Sizlak of eve...
"Hey! I maybe angry and hate-filled, but... what was that third thing you said?"
but i don't want him to stop, quite the contrary, anyone who believes him at this point deserves what they get 
edit: better late than never, spin propphy spin! 
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:53:00 -
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[ 2004.05.05 23:54:57 ] Zelota > you havent beaten any thing but n00bs [ 2004.05.05 23:56:47 ] Zelota > votf is trying to survive bob [ 2004.05.05 23:57:26 ] Zelota > we cant caus we cant replace ships any more [ 2004.05.05 23:57:40 ] Zelota > your only fighting the corporatinos that are willing to fight
From the above statements, =
All the corps doing the fighting are n00bs. VOTF are admitting they are n00bs. (They can't replace ships anymore, and the only ones we are killing apparantly are n00bs so...........the math ain't that hard here.)
Oh, and lastly......... my final comment on this log,
ROFLMAOWTFBBQ!!11oneone
Oh and btw? As for the getting paid thing. We aren't paying, nor getting paid by anyone, but I have to say, if we were, or m0o were, WTF would it matter? I mean, afaik you guys consider yourself to be at "war" with like, umm everyone, so what would it matter? I mean, you have noone left to be suddenly mad at and start shooting at, cuz um, you've done that bit already.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2004.05.06 20:57:00 -
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Wether it's real or not, CA has been putting up less than a fight then any other alliance did, even CFS. I think m0o can attest to that ;)
As to why CA corps are becoming so thin spread about their home region remains a question. An answer would be appreciated though, we just want to know where we have to go to fight them.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Harlequin
edit: better late than never, spin propphy spin! 
moi??? 
Still doesn't answer my question tho. Never understood the emphasis placed on if any of us were being "paid" to fight ca. I mean, it doesn't change what IS, does it? Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:04:00 -
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[ 2004.05.06 20:49:15 ] BobGhengisKhan > the chat logs are real, you want the full versions? [ 2004.05.06 20:49:38 ] Shiwan Khan > i know the one with you and red and xirt is but i talked to zel and he said he didnt say that [ 2004.05.06 20:50:09 ] BobGhengisKhan > i have that full one too [ 2004.05.06 20:50:16 ] BobGhengisKhan > too big to paste here [ 2004.05.06 20:50:30 ] BobGhengisKhan > its 6521 characters [ 2004.05.06 20:50:35 ] BobGhengisKhan > says it has to be under 2000 [ 2004.05.06 20:50:37 ] Shiwan Khan > yea [ 2004.05.06 20:50:50 ] BobGhengisKhan > how can i send it [ 2004.05.06 20:50:58 ] BobGhengisKhan > i wanted syz to edit out zelotas name [ 2004.05.06 20:51:09 ] BobGhengisKhan > caus ei didnt want him to get in trouble [ 2004.05.06 20:51:14 ] Shiwan Khan > well bob hers the thing, the things zelota said were wayyyy off base [ 2004.05.06 20:51:30 ] BobGhengisKhan > he told the truth [ 2004.05.06 20:51:32 ] BobGhengisKhan > you ran to pator [ 2004.05.06 20:51:36 ] BobGhengisKhan > you dont want to fight [ 2004.05.06 20:51:42 ] Shiwan Khan > we didnt run to ****
[ 2004.05.06 20:54:49 ] BobGhengisKhan > then where are you shiwan [ 2004.05.06 20:54:57 ] BobGhengisKhan > we'll come over and kill you all if youre in curse [ 2004.05.06 20:55:01 ] Shiwan Khan > its a secret :) [ 2004.05.06 20:55:04 ] BobGhengisKhan > its bull**** [ 2004.05.06 20:59:30 ] BobGhengisKhan > are you in curse [ 2004.05.06 20:59:51 ] Shiwan Khan > its a secret
[ 2004.05.06 21:01:20 ] Shiwan Khan > FYI, zelota is not the corp spokesperson so what he says is his opinion [ 2004.05.06 21:01:40 ] BobGhengisKhan > fine [ 2004.05.06 21:01:46 ] BobGhengisKhan > but dont call me a liar when i post them [ 2004.05.06 21:01:53 ] BobGhengisKhan > and tell harlequin to **** off [ 2004.05.06 21:02:06 ] Shiwan Khan > not in my corp not my worry
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Smith
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:07:00 -
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zzz
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:12:00 -
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oh bob...you poor misguided schoolgirl...so arrogant....so hateful....
BTW ProphetGuru, if you honestly believe that VOTF cannot make battleships anymore, talk to Slimjim, im sure he can tell you differently.
On a side note, as much as i like zel, that convo were his views and his alone. But no doubt you will go on and believe that anyway so oh well....
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Redon
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:13:00 -
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lol bob.
[ 2004.05.06 03:25:34 ] BobGhengisKhan > and I like a lot of CFS [ 2004.05.06 03:26:17 ] BobGhengisKhan > i flew with the CFS navy before [ 2004.05.06 03:26:20 ] Redon > omg u like cfs [ 2004.05.06 03:26:34 ] BobGhengisKhan > yeah some of them [ 2004.05.06 03:26:37 ] Redon > omg u remember cfs right [ 2004.05.06 03:26:40 ] BobGhengisKhan > I helped them fight some pirates once [ 2004.05.06 03:26:58 ] Redon > small, med guns on bs's different type race guns right [ 2004.05.06 03:26:59 ] BobGhengisKhan > CFS is changed since we attacked them
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crice
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:20:00 -
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All noobs eh.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:20:00 -
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The logs are true and Zelota spoke the truth. Why would we fake a 6000 word chat log, when all you have to do is look at the map. Curse is empty, we roam at will, and kill your mining ops at will.
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Redon
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Redon on 06/05/2004 21:22:13 bob the pirate likes carebears lol. omg is all of moo like this? tell me it anit so, the eve pirates like cfs. lol bob stfu.
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Redon
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:27:00 -
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teel go play tag with cfs u carebear muahahahaha
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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:28:00 -
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Obviously, the FA would never dream of questioning the motives, integrity or honor of any of the parties involved in whatever it is you're doing down in Curse nowadays.
However, once again someone is implying that we have in fact paid m0o money to fight CA, so once again we will insist that this is not the case.
Now, since we've cleared that up (again), please don't let me take up your time - good luck and have fun to everyone involved :)
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shiwan Khan BTW ProphetGuru, if you honestly believe that VOTF cannot make battleships anymore, talk to Slimjim, im sure he can tell you differently.
No idea, perhaps you guys can. Just going by what someone in your corp said.
OMG!! Maybe someone is PAYING you guys?! I mean, how can you afford to replace ships when you pvp so much? OMG it's the man on the grassy knoll.... with 1 arm! Obviously I am being facetious, however, the above is much the same argument/proof used when the same accusations are made towards us.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.05.06 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 06/05/2004 21:54:47 To confirm any of this, all anyone has to do is use their agent to check the locations of VOTF - they're all in Molden Heath mining
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Mr Nice
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Posted - 2004.05.06 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Shiwan Khan BTW ProphetGuru, if you honestly believe that VOTF cannot make battleships anymore, talk to Slimjim, im sure he can tell you differently.
No idea, perhaps you guys can. Just going by what someone in your corp said.
OMG!! Maybe someone is PAYING you guys?! I mean, how can you afford to replace ships when you pvp so much? OMG it's the man on the grassy knoll.... with 1 arm! Obviously I am being facetious, however, the above is much the same argument/proof used when the same accusations are made towards us.
I feel I need to jump in again, only because I suppose I raised this recently, even if its not exactly an original idea.
I did not say, that a PvP corp could not survive without somebody paying them. I agreed, to I think youre point, that Insurance pretty much stops people going bankrupt. But Insurance doesnt make a PvP'er rich. You either mine now and then, which you admit, or you get damn lucky with loot, which you also admit. My point was simply that a way for PvP corps to make money whilst not having to to rely on those above points was to get paid for it. In my 1st post, I said Xan and m0o. I later had to concede that since this was *pure theory* any independent corp fighting against curse had to be included as well as every alliance against us, open and covert, for the sake of integrity, not because I thought it true. (so i basically admit that anybody could be paying anybody to attack us. anybody includes you, sorry for being so general.) My own views, were expressed clearly enough in the 1st post. (xan and m0o) Every post since then in that thread was to defend the *theory* not the *truth*. I can't proove anything, never tried to. It was never aimed at Evol except in the hypothetical. You just assumed I was flinging dirt. well, you've denied it, I've accepted your denial. stop trying to rubbish the theory, it only makes you look stupid, which in turn makes you look clever, even if you dont mean it. 
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.05.06 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Stained on 06/05/2004 22:11:18
Originally by: Mr Nice
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: Shiwan Khan BTW ProphetGuru, if you honestly believe that VOTF cannot make battleships anymore, talk to Slimjim, im sure he can tell you differently.
No idea, perhaps you guys can. Just going by what someone in your corp said.
OMG!! Maybe someone is PAYING you guys?! I mean, how can you afford to replace ships when you pvp so much? OMG it's the man on the grassy knoll.... with 1 arm! Obviously I am being facetious, however, the above is much the same argument/proof used when the same accusations are made towards us.
I feel I need to jump in again, only because I suppose I raised this recently, even if its not exactly an original idea.
I did not say, that a PvP corp could not survive without somebody paying them. I agreed, to I think youre point, that Insurance pretty much stops people going bankrupt. But Insurance doesnt make a PvP'er rich. You either mine now and then, which you admit, or you get damn lucky with loot, which you also admit. My point was simply that a way for PvP corps to make money whilst not having to to rely on those above points was to get paid for it. In my 1st post, I said Xan and m0o. I later had to concede that since this was *pure theory* any independent corp fighting against curse had to be included as well as every alliance against us, open and covert, for the sake of integrity, not because I thought it true. (so i basically admit that anybody could be paying anybody to attack us. anybody includes you, sorry for being so general.) My own views, were expressed clearly enough in the 1st post. (xan and m0o) Every post since then in that thread was to defend the *theory* not the *truth*. I can't proove anything, never tried to. It was never aimed at Evol except in the hypothetical. You just assumed I was flinging dirt. well, you've denied it, I've accepted your denial. stop trying to rubbish the theory, it only makes you look stupid, which in turn makes you look clever, even if you dont mean it. 
LoL, that made me laugh. ___________________________________________________________________
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Triniton
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Posted - 2004.05.06 22:17:00 -
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FA pays nicely..
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.06 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Nice blablabla
OMG not you again.
I'm not going to spend another 10 post educating you, I think I developed carpal(sic) tunnel the other day.
You accepted my statement, however it's more then obvious others still think we're being paid. I'm not supposed to respond to them simply cuz you claim to have seen the light?
Don't take things so seriously, the 1 armed guy in the grassy knoll reference was at least mildly funny. I mean, not a gutwrencher ofc, but worth a good chuckle.....
It's not very often that such easy material to work with (that chat log) comes along. 
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Mr Nice
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Posted - 2004.05.06 22:59:00 -
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People can think what they want to, thats the point. If you claim Evo dont take cash/assests/whatever then fine. But dont claim that nobody can. Or nobody would pay/want to be payed. Thats what you spent 10 posts trying to convince me off. And it didnt work. The 1 armed grassy knoll comment was hilarious, I grant you that. But only cos the sentence before that you said what you really thought of my idea. 
You can think what you want to. Just dont use me as "proof" for you're spin, or maybe I might disagree with you......
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.06 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: ProphetGuru on 06/05/2004 23:02:25
Originally by: Mr Nice But dont claim that nobody can. Or nobody would pay/want to be payed. Thats what you spent 10 posts trying to convince me off.
NO IT WASN'T!!
arghhh
/me ends himself.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Mr Nice
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Posted - 2004.05.06 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Nice on 06/05/2004 23:13:10
Originally by: ProphetGuru I Don't understand why people keep coming up with "financial backers" theories. I mean, the fact is that 100% insurance kinda makes losses moot, for our side and yours as well I would assume. Add on top of that the fact that we have been around for a while, and can mine/lootfarm just as well as anyone else, I mean... isk is easy to come by really.
We don't need a financial backer.
Explain this then. From my point of view "We dont need a financial backer" is a lie. You may not *choose* to have one as you then further stated... But using the word "need" implies, to me atleast, that you think the "financial theories" are completley wild and untrue. After all, you state you "dont undertstand" why I would bother to come up with it in the 1st place. Edit: you are questioning the theory are you not?
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Araviel
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Posted - 2004.05.06 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Redon teel go play tag with cfs u carebear muahahahaha
lol, we are not the ones hiding in pator 
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.05.06 23:30:00 -
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Quote: lol, we are not the ones hiding in pator
Don't forget their mining op in half. They are replacing all those ships that got blown up.
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Zelota
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Posted - 2004.05.06 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Zelota on 06/05/2004 23:38:38 well there have been thigs added and removed from that convo
and well i do not speek for all of votf at the time of that convo i wasent in the right state of mind (was drunk) so bob all you gott there is me babeling like a maniac Vid of the week |

Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.05.07 00:01:00 -
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Quote: at the time of that convo i wasent in the right state of mind (was drunk) so bob all you gott there is me babeling like a maniac
Drunks speak the truth.
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.05.07 00:02:00 -
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Quote: at the time of that convo i wasent in the right state of mind (was drunk) so bob all you gott there is me babeling like a maniac
Drunks speak the truth.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.05.07 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 06/05/2004 21:54:47 To confirm any of this, all anyone has to do is use their agent to check the locations of VOTF - they're all in Molden Heath mining
sure bob, let them test for me, im never out of curse, well rarely anyway.
ohh i even tell you my whereabouts, Hlw system, my home as it has always been. So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.05.07 00:14:00 -
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Quote: at the time of that convo i wasent in the right state of mind (was drunk) so bob all you gott there is me babeling like a maniac
Wait, someone from Curse babbling like a maniac? NOOOOO...

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Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2004.05.07 00:44:00 -
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Cant belive im bothering to post but here goes,
Nobody is paying m0o to attack, we are doing it for sh1ts and giggles.
I have been away for a bit but since my return (I cant spk for what went on before hand) we have been roaming "CA space" killing at will with little to no resistance.
We (m0o) do not fabricate logs etc as we see no need, we just let the stupid / drunk hang themselves.
We (m0o) never invited / asked anyone to help us as there was no need as CA has enemies off its own back. If anything we joined EVOL in the fight and have maintained a friendly relationship with ATUK for some time now. We simperly choose not to attack CA's enemies (or most of them) for the ime being. As much as it feels strange not shooting Stormguard Elite and Mass :)
I have said it before and will say it again and all who know me in-game will no doubt concur we do not make fabrications that inculdes logs kill-lists etc as WE DONT HAVE TO
love, peace and allthat sh1t,
Tib.
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2004.05.07 02:50:00 -
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Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 07/05/2004 02:51:52
Originally by: Redon lol bob.
[ 2004.05.06 03:25:34 ] BobGhengisKhan > and I like a lot of CFS [ 2004.05.06 03:26:17 ] BobGhengisKhan > i flew with the CFS navy before [ 2004.05.06 03:26:20 ] Redon > omg u like cfs [ 2004.05.06 03:26:34 ] BobGhengisKhan > yeah some of them [ 2004.05.06 03:26:37 ] Redon > omg u remember cfs right [ 2004.05.06 03:26:40 ] BobGhengisKhan > I helped them fight some pirates once [ 2004.05.06 03:26:58 ] Redon > small, med guns on bs's different type race guns right [ 2004.05.06 03:26:59 ] BobGhengisKhan > CFS is changed since we attacked them
WTF does this have to do with anything?
He all of a sudden loses credibility because he likes some people in another alliance?
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SlimJim
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Posted - 2004.05.07 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: SlimJim on 07/05/2004 03:15:51 ok... so we finally have proof that VOTF can and will go to pator... i mean Kulheim station... i mean Empire... well im sure you all know what i mean. Im sure that votf's cash crop of minerals (ie Tritanium got low since pumping out almost 15+ BS a week isnt enough) and making a bunch of very skilled players mine for how long xirt... 5-7 days when most of them want to be out fighting, but probably cant because VOTF works as a team and the second you say "mining op" where does half the corp run off to... um... im not naming anyone because that would just be wrong... but those of VOTF know who im talking about... well anyway all those votf members hate me... except a handful.
Also xirt the cloaking device... i know your wheelchair is cool and all but calling it a cloaking device... thats excessive.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.05.07 03:38:00 -
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Slim, i still like you but i mean come on...nocking your old corp is just low man.... I am damn proud to be a member of VOTF and there is no better corp in eve IMO. I understand why you left us and that is fine by me but please dont stab us in the back and give privaleged info to m0o. I am sure you probably already have but... i guess i felt compelled to say that.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.05.07 04:18:00 -
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You don't have to be a good pvper to be honourable and respectful to your enemies, and that is why Bob likes the CFS. They're probably not as good as some of the hardcode cs-style corps in EVE, but they will fight when outskilled and outgunned.. so give them props for playing the game how its supposed to be played, for fun. Respect, honour and reputation are more important than frag counts.
As for the pic of harlequin's post: OMGWTFLOL 
I see Shinra, UA, RUS and a few other corps in Delve, Querious and Period Basis daily, shouldn't they be protecting the motherland? 
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Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.05.07 05:07:00 -
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I dunno last time i logged on i saw more people in curse than stain/fA/ect combine and as far as votf not being able to replace bs I find that impossible to belive especially cuz they hardly die.
every single alliance in space has attacke ca/c4 and were still around. Its like a boxing match. Ca/c4 has taken the best m0o/evol/cfs/stain/foutain/celes/atuk (and whoever else is on the attack bandwagon) has had to offer and were still standing strong. in other words, yull never beat ca/c4. ----------------------------------------------
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2004.05.07 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shiwan Khan Slim, i still like you but i mean come on...nocking your old corp is just low man.... I am damn proud to be a member of VOTF and there is no better corp in eve IMO. I understand why you left us and that is fine by me but please dont stab us in the back and give privaleged info to m0o. I am sure you probably already have but... i guess i felt compelled to say that.
Yeah, coulda swore he said he wouldn't..... 
Member of the Curse Alliance before the Corruption Leader of The Black Plague.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.07 06:52:00 -
[46]
Just for the record CSF sux about 200x worse than CA, CFS isn't and never was an alliance, it was just a chat channel.
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2004.05.07 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Stavros Just for the record CSF sux about 200x worse than CA, CFS isn't and never was an alliance, it was just a chat channel.
yep... carebears with dreams :PPPPP ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.05.07 07:49:00 -
[48]
How to play Eve in 6 easy steps:
1. Get in a ship 2. Load it out with appropriate modules 3. Get some ammo 4. Click on Undock 5. Look at the map 6. Shoot someone
:)
Miso x -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.05.07 08:05:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Loka on 07/05/2004 08:06:14
Originally by: CT BadIronTree
Originally by: Stavros Just for the record CSF sux about 200x worse than CA, CFS isn't and never was an alliance, it was just a chat channel.
yep... carebears with dreams :PPPPP
Tell that the CA/C4 pilots we release from their ships daily. Tell m0o when they ran from equal numbers. In every lifesituation, in every game in the hole life its much easier to walk on the darkside. I never saw CFS runing from any fight we see a chance to stand. We fight even when outnumberd and outgunned. Most ppl in CFS are very inexpirienced. Some of m0o are ex-CFS by the way.
Seems no one want our space, if we are a dream. Seems CA/C4/m0o is attacking a ghost. Sorry to say but before m0o attacked CA/C4 they attacked us almost daily. You havent ready about it in forums, because we dont whine we take it like it is and fight our nightmare. I can say most of CFS ppl i met are the most honorable and brave ppl around. They help friends everytime and they fight the enemy careless who they are. Most ppl hide when we gangwarp to the enemy.
Yes we are not the strongest for sure, but we have willpower and thats our strongest weapon. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.07 08:27:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Miso How to play Eve in 6 easy steps:
1. Get in a ship 2. Load it out with appropriate modules 3. Get some ammo 4. Click on Undock 5. Look at the map 6. Shoot someone
:)
Miso x
/emote writes this down
interesting theory there miso ill have to consider it
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.07 09:33:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Loka
Tell that the CA/C4 pilots we release from their ships daily. Tell m0o when they ran from equal numbers. In every lifesituation, in every game in the hole life its much easier to walk on the darkside. I never saw CFS runing from any fight we see a chance to stand. We fight even when outnumberd and outgunned. Most ppl in CFS are very inexpirienced. Some of m0o are ex-CFS by the way.
LMAO I never saw CFS in an even fight I dont think, they either ran or outnumbered us. Oh and for the record m0o never lost an egagement during our time in CFS Space and we sure as hell never ran from an equal engagement. CFS is like the nursey of the alliances, players go there, grow up get some skills and then leave, m0o was lucky enough to take in some of the best pvpers CFS had. Its just a pitty you don't have more like them.
Stav
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.05.07 09:42:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Stavros
Originally by: Loka
Tell that the CA/C4 pilots we release from their ships daily. Tell m0o when they ran from equal numbers. In every lifesituation, in every game in the hole life its much easier to walk on the darkside. I never saw CFS runing from any fight we see a chance to stand. We fight even when outnumberd and outgunned. Most ppl in CFS are very inexpirienced. Some of m0o are ex-CFS by the way.
LMAO I never saw CFS in an even fight I dont think, they either ran or outnumbered us. Oh and for the record m0o never lost an egagement during our time in CFS Space and we sure as hell never ran from an equal engagement. CFS is like the nursey of the alliances, players go there, grow up get some skills and then leave, m0o was lucky enough to take in some of the best pvpers CFS had. Its just a pitty you don't have more like them.
Stav
Gotta agree on that one, when CFS came rushing in Esoteria it was under the supervision of a fleet of Fountain. That ammount was 80 ships in total, against an fleet of 20 C4 ships. I have seen CFS fight once, and lose more than 19 ships that day to a fleet not even half their size.
I still got 1 question: why you rejoined moo? __________________________
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.07 09:46:00 -
[53]
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
I still got 1 question: why you rejoined moo?
Sometimes when i'm on teamspeak and Zap is calling me tight fisted (COMPLETELY UNDESERVEDLY HONEST) and Teelmaster is all like BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH and Stan is all like STAVROS IS NUB... I ask my self the same question :(
GG WP PLS DIE THX
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.05.07 12:47:00 -
[54]
[quotes] this reply is for have been removed by Eris Discordia
I have a distinct lack of attitude and would like to be exempt of generalisations. And I sure as hell never make up any stories whatsoever, never, honest !
And for your info, I do fit miners on my BS regularly and even tried fitting them on my caracal but somehow that didnt work very well.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.05.07 13:14:00 -
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And as usual, please reply in a respectful, friendly manner. For any questions, concerns about moderation please mail us at [email protected]
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.05.07 14:38:00 -
[56]
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.05.07 14:38:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/05/2004 15:02:46 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/05/2004 15:01:32 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/05/2004 14:49:05
Matter solved, Eris was correct in taking action as I inadvertently did something I guess I shouldn't.
I will not do it again unless Eris promises to spank me for it.
another edit: Kindathey would do fine too.
Rod Blaine Supreme master of disfunctional attempts at being funny through use of a fictional "new cleansing" project that reputedly has something to do with Weapons of mass destruction and the general talking of smack _______________________________________________
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Jubedei
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Posted - 2004.05.07 14:57:00 -
[58]
Why has there been no warning/action taken against posting screenshots from another corporation's private forums?
Surely, with all of the OOC conflict that this inspires, it should be avoided at all costs, and it's instigators punished?
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Kindathey
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Posted - 2004.05.07 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jubedei
Why has there been no warning/action taken against posting screenshots from another corporation's private forums?
Surely, with all of the OOC conflict that this inspires, it should be avoided at all costs, and it's instigators punished?
We can't dictate nor control what people do outside these pages. Not that we already do it here, but that is beside the point. Although people are allowed to post information gathered from another site when it is in accordance with our forum rules.
Now, please get back to the topic.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.05.07 15:28:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Rod Blaine
Matter solved, Eris was correct in taking action as I inadvertently did something I guess I shouldn't. I will not do it again unless Eris promises to spank me for it. another edit: Kindathey would do fine too.
Rod Blaine
It was something minor and I'm glad it's settled, about the spanking well I'll need to get Wranglers premission 
I also removed more posts from this thread.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2004.05.07 16:45:00 -
[61]
Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 07/05/2004 16:52:48
Originally by: Stavros
Oh and for the record m0o never lost an egagement during our time in CFS Space and we sure as hell never ran from an equal engagement.
Edit: What's the use? You'll never acknowledge it. Suffice to say losing 2 Battleships for the loss of 1 of our cruisers is in my book a won engagement.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.05.07 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 06/05/2004 23:38:38 well there have been thigs added and removed from that convo
and well i do not speek for all of votf at the time of that convo i wasent in the right state of mind (was drunk) so bob all you gott there is me babeling like a maniac
First off, drunk people usually speak truth they wish to keep secret because people who are drunk are usually very stupid while intoxicated.
Second off, you are what 14-15 so quite frankly I have a hard time belief that you were drunk playing EVE,
So all in all what you said on those caht logs is true and you admitted that your corp is loosing more than you can build and that you and everyone in CA that is fighting are noobs.
Arent you happy that you finally got it all off your chest and spoke the truth as you see it ? Spawn of the Devil
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Devorre
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Posted - 2004.05.07 22:10:00 -
[63]
You have it all wrong.... See, last week my research agent, ( Thanks CCP!) gave me the BP to the Jovian Cloaking device... Needless to say it is a mineral hog... We have primarily been in HLW testing it out on diffrent ships... Ask Bobgenghis.. He knows all about it..
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.05.07 22:55:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 06/05/2004 23:38:38 well there have been thigs added and removed from that convo
and well i do not speek for all of votf at the time of that convo i wasent in the right state of mind (was drunk) so bob all you gott there is me babeling like a maniac
First off, drunk people usually speak truth they wish to keep secret because people who are drunk are usually very stupid while intoxicated.
Second off, you are what 14-15 so quite frankly I have a hard time belief that you were drunk playing EVE,
So all in all what you said on those caht logs is true and you admitted that your corp is loosing more than you can build and that you and everyone in CA that is fighting are noobs.
Arent you happy that you finally got it all off your chest and spoke the truth as you see it ?
Omni, once again you are way off but hey...if thats what it takes to get you to sleep at night go on and believe that.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.05.07 22:59:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 06/05/2004 23:38:38 well there have been thigs added and removed from that convo
and well i do not speek for all of votf at the time of that convo i wasent in the right state of mind (was drunk) so bob all you gott there is me babeling like a maniac
Spawn of the Devil
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.05.07 22:59:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Shiwan Khan
Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 06/05/2004 23:38:38 well there have been thigs added and removed from that convo
and well i do not speek for all of votf at the time of that convo i wasent in the right state of mind (was drunk) so bob all you gott there is me babeling like a maniac
First off, drunk people usually speak truth they wish to keep secret because people who are drunk are usually very stupid while intoxicated.
Second off, you are what 14-15 so quite frankly I have a hard time belief that you were drunk playing EVE,
So all in all what you said on those caht logs is true and you admitted that your corp is loosing more than you can build and that you and everyone in CA that is fighting are noobs.
Arent you happy that you finally got it all off your chest and spoke the truth as you see it ?
Omni, once again you are way off but hey...if thats what it takes to get you to sleep at night go on and believe that.
What is way off in my post ?
Tell me please because I am writing about what Zelota wrote and has also admitted, gimme few secs and I¦ll quote his admittance for you....
Remember to check back in few secs. Spawn of the Devil
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.05.07 23:03:00 -
[67]
ok here goes im financing the m0o and atuk and evol and every one else invasion of curse space with the 5 billion of assets i stole from xanadu. and atm im trying to make the gms sell me a titan they dont seem game STAN
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.05.07 23:04:00 -
[68]
Omni, i am sorry to say but what Zelota or any other VOTF member other than what Xirtam may say on the forums is complete opinion. If Zelota thinks VOTF cannot build battleships anymore then that is his opinion. My posts on these forums are my opinion, even though my opinion also is fact . Anyway, Zelota cannot make a statement about what is happening without it coming from a representative so tough chit i guess...
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.05.07 23:05:00 -
[69]
You see that what he is saying is not an official statement but something he knew since he is in the corp and he was not supposed to tell anyone about it.
But here¦s what makes it so funny, he was either drunk as he says and it sliped out or he is just not all that bright and it slipped out.
If neither is right then Zelota was lying in that convo.
He could have said that he was lying to try to trick someone but he didnt.
In stead he admitted he said all those things but also says he did not speak for the corp, he spoke from personal expiriance in opinion and his personal expiriance and comments about his corp make them look,,,,, what do you call it again.... Lame, yes thats it, lame and empire cowards 
And now please answer my question 2 posts above please, since youre so smart and all that. Spawn of the Devil
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.05.07 23:07:00 -
[70]
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 07/05/2004 23:07:52 Eh, the point was to embarass/anger CA enough that they stop mining and come back to Curse. I think it's working, so cool.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.05.07 23:12:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Shiwan Khan Omni, i am sorry to say but what Zelota or any other VOTF member other than what Xirtam may say on the forums is complete opinion. If Zelota thinks VOTF cannot build battleships anymore then that is his opinion. My posts on these forums are my opinion, even though my opinion also is fact . Anyway, Zelota cannot make a statement about what is happening without it coming from a representative so tough chit i guess...
Zelota knows what is going on in VOTF sice he is a member, he puplicly admitted that you loose ships faster than you can replace them and that your war tactic will be to bore us out.
It does not need to come from Xirtan, it came from his member and his opinions of his own corp reflect what s happening within the corp¦
Or are you saying that no one except xirtan knows anything about the corp and is only followint the orders from xirtan ?
Dont even try to deny that your corp is struggleling since your own corp member has admitted it, it doesnt need official statement from the CEO.
mmmkey?
You get it now or want to try to prolong this argument ?
Your corp is almost finished, mining in empire and doing missons while your regions are undergoing hostile takeover by enemy corps.
Just remember that when you have done enough mining so you can keep on loosing more ships and want to return to curse that you might want to apply for membership to the new alliance. Spawn of the Devil
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Kakalot
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Posted - 2004.05.07 23:38:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Omniwar
Originally by: Shiwan Khan Omni, i am sorry to say but what Zelota or any other VOTF member other than what Xirtam may say on the forums is complete opinion. If Zelota thinks VOTF cannot build battleships anymore then that is his opinion. My posts on these forums are my opinion, even though my opinion also is fact . Anyway, Zelota cannot make a statement about what is happening without it coming from a representative so tough chit i guess...
Zelota knows what is going on in VOTF sice he is a member, he puplicly admitted that you loose ships faster than you can replace them and that your war tactic will be to bore us out.
It does not need to come from Xirtan, it came from his member and his opinions of his own corp reflect what s happening within the corp¦
Or are you saying that no one except xirtan knows anything about the corp and is only followint the orders from xirtan ?
Dont even try to deny that your corp is struggleling since your own corp member has admitted it, it doesnt need official statement from the CEO.
mmmkey?
You get it now or want to try to prolong this argument ?
Your corp is almost finished, mining in empire and doing missons while your regions are undergoing hostile takeover by enemy corps.
Just remember that when you have done enough mining so you can keep on loosing more ships and want to return to curse that you might want to apply for membership to the new alliance.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2004.05.08 01:59:00 -
[73]
**** it im done with this forum for a while. Its obviously just a flamefest to try and get our enemys to bring in others to their cause trying to preach the goodness of their cause....well all i can say is shove it up ur asses cuz im done with these forums. Time to find a new flame buddy Omni and Bob....
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.05.08 05:28:00 -
[74]
Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 08/05/2004 05:32:31 You say that as if we specifically chose you to come in here. There's not much VOTF can say in this thread, beyond Zelota and Xirt downplaying the significance of the original post
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Friday Dillinja
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Posted - 2004.05.08 05:31:00 -
[75]
This is like the... x-th time i hear a CA member whining about the boards. "I will never ever again come to the boards, you all stink and im going to tell everyone! Wah Wah!".

If you would only keep your promises...
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Georg Inekn
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Posted - 2004.05.08 07:11:00 -
[76]
Priceless thread. Thumbs up!

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Ezra
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Posted - 2004.05.08 16:33:00 -
[77]
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
ok here goes im financing the m0o and atuk and evol and every one else invasion of curse space with the 5 billion of assets i stole from xanadu. and atm im trying to make the gms sell me a titan they dont seem game
Die ebil thief die.
Give us back our 5bill worth of rubins!!! ------------ Ezra Cornell pe0n, Xanadu Corporation |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.05.08 16:44:00 -
[78]
I was drinking at the age of 14, tbh, says a lot i know Reverend Necrona |

dalman
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Posted - 2004.05.08 17:22:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Reverend Necrona I was drinking at the age of 14, tbh, says a lot i know
So was I. But hardly at home where I had access to my computer...
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.05.08 17:57:00 -
[80]
Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Reverend Necrona I was drinking at the age of 14, tbh, says a lot i know
So was I. But hardly at home where I had access to my computer...
Aye park benches didn't come equpped with internet access back in the day  Reverend Necrona |
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