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Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:11:00 - [1] Goonswarm has had a lot of success of late so I have been gleaning bits and pieces of information on how this is possible. I also bought some information from a Goon logistics person and a person who fuels their POS, so take it for what its worth. 1. Goons have been modernizing. After the loss of the RA Titan because of a total failure of Goon support, they have been working to upgrade their forces. They have largely overcome recent losses of players by heavily recruiting new players with a focus on PvP and slaves for running their logistics. They seem to have completed their logistics train and actually have an increasingly effective system. They have instituted better PvP practices. The days of comedy ops in critical situations are over. 2. Their leadership has been slow, but they have improved under Darius. In part this may be due to absorbing many former RA, players who have needed to join a more casual corp. They have greatly strengthened Goons. Goons are making a concerted effort to make sure their FC's are up to the task. They still rely heavily on RA, Solar Fleet, AAA and others for cap fleet operations, but the day is coming soon when they will be able to stand on their own. As much as some may scoff at this, Goons will one day surpass RA in their capabilities. Not necessarily in skill, but in raw military power. 3. How Goons fit in with their allies. Goons rely on cap support from RA/Solar. That cap support however is top notch and highly integrated into the larger Goon fleet structure. I might go as far to say that without Goons, the RA fleet is much like MC, it is cap ship heavy without follow on support. RA, Solar, AAA do not have the ground forces to bring to a long drawn out fight over multiple time zones, Goons bring that to the table. Being a modernized force I expect them to be that much more effective. 4. Goons have a huge back end operation, with many hundreds of slaves to fuel POS, rat for minerals and do other operations that give front line troops an inexhaustable supply of materials. These people must enjoy it, I don't know where they find them. 5. On a map, Solar Fleet, RA, AAA may appear separate from Goons. In practice they are all work together as one unit with Goons providing the critical follow on force to operations. Summary: This is not the Goonswarm that invaded BoB. Goonswarm is stronger now than they have ever been and they are on the prowl. Combined with RA, AAA, and Solar, they have the potential to sweep the drone regions and the greater Deklein area, bringing a presence to all of 0.0. In this case, Goons are actually the stronger force as they actually have the manpower to make it happen. Ironically, I would rate them above Solar Fleet in terms of their military accomplishments at this point. People mock Goons for not accomplishing things on their own. That list of people is getting shorter and shorter as they are all killed off. This is the new and improved Goonswarm. A lot of people better adjust or die. And as for Smashkill and Atlas, they have the potential to hang in there, but it will be close. If they want to survive they will have to fight with everything they have, and I mean everything. Other alliance not concerned by Goon capabilities will be dead in the next 6 months. I don't see a counter balance to this as BoB is solidifying their position and MM/Razor/Pure/Iron don't have the ability or the will to take on this force directly and will probably set them blue. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Captain Sedai	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:15:00 - [2] You got scammed
ColonelKurtz GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:16:00 - [3] What a terrible analysis of goons. You couldnt be more wrong if you tried. It did give a nice boost to my ego though.
Innominate GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:16:00 - [4] Is this satire?
Koronos Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:16:00 - [5] good analysis (couple of issues aside), will be interesting to watch the next few months develop.
Bin Matar Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:18:00 - [6] ITT Goons have many hundreds of slaves EvE local gem of the week Quote: [20:25:09] wtfepixz > did someone just shoot me?
Dreznengul GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:18:00 - [7] Posting in a "GF is awesome" thread.
Vladimir Antlerkov GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:19:00 - [8] Originally by: Innominate Is this satire? It had me until the bit about RA/SF not having the ground forces/manpower for a drawn-out campaign.
Techali GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:19:00 - [9] Jesus... whoever you contacted asking who was in logistics, why did you believe them when they said "ME!!" You got scammed. Or you're a goon alt and this thread is fail.
Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Captain Sedai You got scammed Information from Goons is cheap. By the way, I didn't believe it either until I started seeing Goons in jump freighters. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Vladimir Antlerkov Originally by: Innominate Is this satire? It had me until the bit about RA/SF not having the ground forces/manpower for a drawn-out campaign. Solar Fleet had hit a brick wall and was cherry picking systems until Goons showed up. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Althair Erin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:22:00 - [12] As a member of the Gallente race I would like to object to the notion that Goonfleet uses slaves to fuel their stations. This totally untrue assertion casts a shadow over the work of the free men who maintain that network of vitally important structures. -------------- The Hope of the younger generation Come help build a better, more civil EVE!
Prontifex THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:22:00 - [13] You actually paid somebody for all this drivel?
Val Streth GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:23:00 - [14] 1. Buttes 2. Donges 3. Buttes 4. Donges 5. Buttes Please make sure the signature size within Maximum height: 120 pixels and Maximum width: 400 pixels~~~Applebabe
Captain Sedai	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Re Mi Originally by: Captain Sedai You got scammed Information from Goons is cheap. By the way, I didn't believe it either until I started seeing Goons in jump freighters. Well I can tell you that there was recently a comedy freighter OP
GeneticWeapon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:24:00 - [16] It's me, I'm the slave in GF.
Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:25:00 - [17] Originally by: Val Streth 1. Buttes 2. Donges 3. Buttes 4. Donges 5. Buttes Don't you have a station named that? Just curious, the person I spoke with mentioned a massive fleet of frigs in that system all labeled "bomb". Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:27:00 - [18] i just bought my first t2 ship the other day, a bustard. Please don't use RL pictuers of players in Sig without permission. - WeatherMan
GeneticWeapon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Re Mi Originally by: Val Streth 1. Buttes 2. Donges 3. Buttes 4. Donges 5. Buttes Don't you have a station named that? Just curious, the person I spoke with mentioned a massive fleet of frigs in that system all labeled "bomb". They're labeled "doomsday" ..
Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:30:00 - [20] Nothing makes a Goon angrier than saying something nice about them. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:31:00 - [21] Originally by: Dramaticus i just bought my first t2 ship the other day, a bustard. Proof! A T2 Goon! Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
GeneticWeapon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Re Mi Nothing makes a Goon angrier than saying something nice about them. Most of your writing was based on misinformation, that's all.
Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Prontifex You actually paid somebody for all this drivel? I also read CAOD. I guess I have some issues I need to work out. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
EdFromHumanResources BobFromMarketing's Alt	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:33:00 - [24] Wow I really want to know who sold you this information. Thats some Grade A++ scamming right there. The man deserves a medal or somdething. Do people actually believe this stuff? I could be making billions if so. ------------------------------------------------- Everyone hates goonswarm for one reason or another. ... And they promote****gotism -Zurrar
Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:34:00 - [25] Originally by: GeneticWeapon Originally by: Re Mi Nothing makes a Goon angrier than saying something nice about them. Most of your writing was based on misinformation, that's all. Just curious, is Free Trade Zone a Goon front? Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
WrathOfOprah GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:37:00 - [26] I'm a slave for you. (Here we go now) I cannot hold it; I cannot control it. I'm a slave for you. (Here we go) I won't deny it, (Yeah) I'm not trying to hide it.
Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:37:00 - [27] Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Wow I really want to know who sold you this information. Thats some Grade A++ scamming right there. The man deserves a medal or somdething. Do people actually believe this stuff? I could be making billions if so. More like 10 million. Goons are cheap, especially if you find someone who is broke, which isn't hard. Thats not all you can buy. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Re Mi Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:40:00 - [28] Originally by: WrathOfOprah I'm a slave for you. (Here we go now) I cannot hold it; I cannot control it. I'm a slave for you. (Here we go) I won't deny it, (Yeah) I'm not trying to hide it. Just curious, if you are so pro slave, why do you do your sovereignty tower business almost exclusively with Minmatar? They are anti slave. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
tantrade	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:50:00 - [29] Edited by: tantrade on 02/06/2008 02:50:10 -
UnsignedInt GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.06.02 02:53:00 - [30] You mean t1 Noobswarm right? HAHAHAHA SEE WHAT I DID THERE?

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