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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.02 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 02/06/2008 21:41:05
Top 20 Most Influential People in MMOs
WOOT! go hilmar!
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4. Hilmar PTtursson, CEO, CCP
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.02 21:44:00 -
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Mitnal's not on the list... guess he's not as awesome as he thinks he is 
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lofty29
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.02 21:54:00 -
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Wtf, no me? 
族---族
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Marisal
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Posted - 2008.06.02 21:57:00 -
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Top half the list fairly logical though i'd disagree with the ordering perhaps a little
the lower half im personally not to sure about but havent seen the research
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Xparky
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.02 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Mitnal's not on the list... guess he's not as awesome as he thinks he is
Your house getting nuked from orbit in 5...4...3...
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Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
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Posted - 2008.06.02 22:07:00 -
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Where is hellmar these days anyways
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Originally by: Tarminic
I believe your mother should have re-rolled her birth control.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.02 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xparky
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Mitnal's not on the list... guess he's not as awesome as he thinks he is
Your house getting nuked from orbit in 5...4...3...
it's the only way to be sure 
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.06.02 22:25:00 -
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Not really sure that a Community Rep would be likely to show up on a list of MMO industry figureheads, perhaps next year?
Mitnal
Community Representative
CCP Games, EVE Online
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Zephyr Rengate
Prophets Of a Damned Universe
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Posted - 2008.06.02 22:45:00 -
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eww ginger person with influence, wth happened to this world.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I habe no life. 
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Lord Evangelian
The White Mantle
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Posted - 2008.06.02 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyr Rengate
eww ginger person with influence, wth happened to this world.
TAKE IT BACK PEASANT!
Hilmar owns your character...and makes it posible for you to play...show some respect....
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NeoNeTiC
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 23:19:00 -
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Quote:
Top 20 Influential People in Massively Multiplayer Video Games of 2007 Announced
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# 2. Jeffrey Steefel, Executive Producer, Turbine
# 3. John Smedley, CEO, Sony Online Entertainment
# 4. Hilmar PTtursson, CEO, CCP
I don't want to sound even more like the EvE-fanboy I am but:
Turbine Inc. released Dungeons and Dragons Online in 2006 - a game that never really grew to an extent to consider it either a success nor being a good game set in the D&D universe, given the awesome game-system and huge story-potential. I'll not even get into bugs.
In 2007 they released Lord of the Rings Online which was considered PvE-grind (try it and see what you do once you reach the level cap. It's just... grindtastic - like "achievements" on x-box games) set in the Lord of the Rings universe (atleast some parts of it) and did not just feature an astounding lack of innovative gameplay but also did not require to create a setting/backstory, major art or anything other besides level- and quest-design and code-work. Yes, harsh opinion but other game companies create more from scratch.
Let's take a look at Sony: So basically the guy who managed to create such "successful" games as Matrix Online and killed Everquest 2, StarWars Galaxies and Vanguard amongst others games his company runs/manages is more influential than the guy from CCP who creates a steadily growing game(community) and started without the backing of a large international company? I have got to give them credit for hosting and handling payment for Pirates of the Burning Sea though - a game they did not develop nor fund.
I'll not argue about the Blizzard guy on top since it's a commercial success and a solid PvE-game (if you dig PvE that is).
I'd like to read that article and see the reasoning behind their score.
tl;dr:
List is fail.
Enjoy reading top-lists,
NeoNeTiC
[MORTS]-Raging-Nerd
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.06.02 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Not really sure that a Community Rep would be likely to show up on a list of MMO industry figureheads, perhaps next year?
Disparaging your coworkers and competition is not a good thing.
Figurehead- A person given a position of nominal leadership but having no actual authority
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logesh
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Posted - 2008.06.02 23:45:00 -
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John smedly *spits*
LESS WE FORGET SMEGLY
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Armoured C
Globaltech Industries
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.06.02 23:45:00 -
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where chribba 
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Cat Gilligan
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.03 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: logesh
John smedly *spits*
LESS WE FORGET SMEGLY
Yeah, but Smed belongs on that list. He is one of the most influential people in MMOs. His influence is bad of course, having turned SOE from the industry leader to the industry poison.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.06.03 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: NeoNeTiC
Let's take a look at Sony: So basically the guy who managed to create such "successful" games as Matrix Online and killed Everquest 2, StarWars Galaxies and Vanguard amongst others games his company runs/manages is more influential than the guy from CCP who creates a steadily growing game(community) and started without the backing of a large international company?
I dont play MMORPGS, they are for nerds so I only have a sketchy knowlede of Star wars online etc BUT
I would say that (according to your post) a guy who has singlehanded bummed over two games is actualy yes very influential.
SKUNK
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Zaknussem
The Ironbreakers
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Posted - 2008.06.03 00:19:00 -
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I find it a little disappointing that the man that created and launched the first MMO game of them all only came in at 11. |
LetsDoThis
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Posted - 2008.06.03 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Not really sure that a Community Rep would be likely to show up on a list of MMO industry figureheads, perhaps next year?
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19. Sanya Weathers, Director of Community, Guildcafe.com
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Tzujeih
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.03 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tzujeih on 03/06/2008 00:28:38
buttes
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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2008.06.03 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Mitnal's not on the list... guess he's not as awesome as he thinks he is
yes he is, you just couldn't handle his awesomeness. It's ok though, my eyes were burned from my skull when I looked upon his greatness. ~Saint
lol
Grats Hilmar, top 5 \/
Originally by: techzer0
I'm invincible until proven wrong
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Shakuul
Extreme Addiction
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Posted - 2008.06.03 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: LetsDoThis
And that list is 100% wrong, its the players of renown that are the most influential.
A game is nothing without players. Believe it or not players drive the trends of gaming not CEOs of video game companies.
The events and memories of great achievements that put MMOGs on the map, that is what drives the direction of the genre. The players that make a difference on the MMOG communities are who should make that list.
I ask you why, why Chribba is not on that list.
Take a moment to google chribba.
Yes...you obviously need players to actually like and buy the game, but that's most of it. WoW certainly benefits from all of the great UI modding, but that is only made possible because WoW allowed it.
CEOs/developers have to combine all prospective players preferences, along with their own about what their game should look like. They need creativity, marketing ability, design ability, and so forth.
But I'm with you that the list is dubious...I don't eve know how they measure influence? In terms of news media attention, WoW is a clear winner so the top 20 people in WoW should make up 50% of the list. In terms of early influence, the SOE CEO and Richard Garriott should get higher rankings. Also, what about MUDs?
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teh punisher
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.06.03 00:44:00 -
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no one from Microsoft or Valve? what a joke.
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Novemb3r
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.03 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Novemb3r on 03/06/2008 01:07:32
Originally by: teh punisher
no one from Microsoft or Valve? what a joke.
Because Valve is huge in the MMO scene. I hear Half-Life 2 lets you have a massive one player on line at a time!!
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teh punisher
Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.06.03 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Novemb3r
Edited by: Novemb3r on 03/06/2008 01:07:32
Originally by: teh punisher
no one from Microsoft or Valve? what a joke.
Because Valve is huge in the MMO scene. I hear Half-Life 2 lets you have a massive one player on line at a time!!
counterstrike, one of the very few "mmo" games that was deemed illegal to play in some countries (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/01/19/brazil-bans-counter-strike-everquest)
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.06.03 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: teh punisher
[counterstrike, one of the very few "mmo" games that was deemed illegal to play in some countries (http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/01/19/brazil-bans-counter-strike-everquest)
CS an "mmo". What a muppet thing to say. I see you are the Noob amongst the Mercs in your corp.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.06.03 01:58:00 -
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I'm sorry, that list is all wrong. it should read the following;
1-20: we, the public.
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Cat Gilligan
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.03 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: Cat Gilligan on 03/06/2008 02:07:27
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: NeoNeTiC
Let's take a look at Sony: So basically the guy who managed to create such "successful" games as Matrix Online and killed Everquest 2, StarWars Galaxies and Vanguard amongst others games his company runs/manages is more influential than the guy from CCP who creates a steadily growing game(community) and started without the backing of a large international company?
I dont play MMORPGS, they are for nerds so I only have a sketchy knowlede of Star wars online etc BUT
I would say that (according to your post) a guy who has singlehanded bummed over two games is actualy yes very influential.
SKUNK
To say Smed burned down SWG, EQ2, and basically everything else would be a gross understatement.
More like burned down, then froze, then thawed with a thermonuclear blast.
SWG was the most egregious example. They deleted basically 2/3rds of the game, put in a combat system that looked like Benny Hill that 2+ years later STILL doesn't work, took away all significant choice in character development, and gave away the equivalent of Titans to first day players (while nerfing them down to the equivalent of an Ibis). 250,000 subs (about what EVE has now) crashed into far less than 50K over the succeeding months, all the while Smed blindly stuck to his "vision" while players left all the while screaming for their game back.
I was one of them. Glad to finally have found another game.
To show you how clueless Smed is, he even went on Slashdot and said that the NGE was the game to challenge WOW for supremecy... (laughs uncontrollably), when in fact, it's considered the most cataclysmic mistake in the history of the industry.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.03 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Wtf, no me?
You would have to beat me out first
Okay, okay! Please don't hurt me 
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Shakari Sween
Entropians on Vacation
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Posted - 2008.06.03 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: NeoNeTiC
I'll not argue about the Blizzard guy on top since it's a commercial success and a solid PvE-game (if you dig PvE that is).
But didnt you hear? wow's now an e-sport!!!
So i hear there's no line to break sigs so your reading this cause I put it in to look like part of my post! |
Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.06.03 04:11:00 -
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I object to arenanet being on there. Guildwars blows. Also, I hope the people from ncsoft aren't on there for GW.
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Pasha Cracken
Thanos and Killjoy Productions
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Posted - 2008.06.03 04:21:00 -
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why is SOE on the list? didnt they change SWG so much it went to an epic fail
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Espae
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Posted - 2008.06.03 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Espae on 03/06/2008 05:03:24
I almost choked when I saw Sanya's name on that list.
Are they smoking *****? Have they actually talked to her past the point where reasonable people begin to see through the smoke screen? I have worked with her, and she's got the art of BS down pat, sure, but other than being popular in the small circle of has-been MUD people, what exactly has she influenced in the MMO world?
She loves to claim that she invented this feature, or that way of looking at things in the industry, but if you sit back and think, most of that stuff is well known in other industries and nobody else would have the cajones to actually try and claim they "invented" it.
Interesting that both she and Mark Jacobs, who fired her from Mythic, are on the list.
He's another one that is full of hot air and arrogance, and is highly overrated. Mythic's success is despite Jacobs, not because of it... ask any of the senior managers that have left that company, and they'll tell you Rob Denton is the brains behind the operation. Quite a bit of effort is spent hiding crap from Mark so that he doesn't decide to play game designer and ruin good ideas.
Really, Starr Long outta be up there a bit higher on the list, definitely higher than Koster (who is lots of talk and not a lot of results).
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Paeniteo
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.06.03 05:23:00 -
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Edited by: Paeniteo on 03/06/2008 05:23:51
I can't believe Sage Sundi is so low on the list. FFXI - refreshing & original perspective on how a fantasy MMO should be, great story, extremely well refined graphics & animations, at least half a million subscriptions (people rarely make new accounts for mules), regular events and expansions, etc. etc.
Tbh FFXI really broke a lot of molds and deserves a higher place than some dork who did D&D. It's vastly different from the run of the mill fantasy MMO's out there.
Sage Sundi's team are also working on a Crystal Tools MMO which is bound to be pretty damned influential one way or the other. I would place Sage up there with Hilmar, easily.
Yeah a lot of people jump of the final fantasy bandwagon but truth is I don't like any other FF games at all. FFXI is bloody tops though. I've tried just about everything and FFXI and EVE were the most captivating if only because they were original. The only issue I have with FFXI is you need a very well put together group to grind anything.
Anyway, this list = suspect as they come.
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