Originally by: Haakelen

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What happens when it gets offlined/destroyed? Can you update/change your medical clone there? Can you remotely assign a clone there?

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Originally by: Haakelen

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With this module, the only remaining things an outpost would have that a POS doesn't would be market stations and offices. Thus it'd have to be balanced very carefully.
It should also require an enhanced level of sovereignty, maybe even sov 4. You shouldn't be able to drop a module like this in a contested area.

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Originally by: Zirconium Blade

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Isn't this the sort of thing that makes an Outpost so good to have?

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Originally by: Gaelenus

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definatly agree with this one, though you might want to also post this in the CMS forum no?

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Originally by: Mostly Amazing

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What is it with you people and trying to make EVE pve only. By making clone vat bays at posses you're gonna make it even safer to travel around 0.0. And I assume once this happens youre gonna start whining about how u can only jump once a day, so they change that to 1 hour.

Pretty soon 0.0 is gonna be a place where people don't use gates anymore. Where they can instantly jump from empire to their moon mining POS, jump into hulks mine mine mine and as soon as constellation chat goes hostile warp out.

Might as well change 0.0 sec stat to 1.0 innit?

Ohno wait, then people are gonna high sec gank u.

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Originally by: JohnPaulJones

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I created a thread about this a few days ago not realizing the idea was already floating around.

I like the biogel idea or more like the ectoplasm already on the market which as we know is used in escape pods therefore would be the ideal material. The idea of various sized and numbers of clones it can hold are great too(but pretty bad we we start setting our own limitations) and it should offer a complete clone service such as replacement clones in the event your jump clone is killed you dont wind up 40 jumps away. Also if the vat goes offline your clone(s) WILL die. The trick will be your replacement clone. It will create serious issues if your clone is at the default because your vat was taken out therefore when that happens your clone is now the default 900,000SP clone and you will need to update it and its location.
Lets face it some pilots lack that very special talent otherwise lowsec piracy and empire war would be completey over therefore we'll need a mail system that indicates their clone was killed, where it is and needs an upgrade.

Sov should be required otherwise it could create a loophole to make invasion of 0.0 empires too easy,this includes neutral corps who come into an alliance owned system without permission and anchor a tower/Vat with the idea of then joining an alliance hostile to the Sov holder. As for allowing small corps to set up jump clones in empire the standing issue is all the same.They will still need a high corperate standing to be able to set up the tower in faction space so its not a far cry for them to have standing to a corp to allow all their pilots to set up jump clones. Even my corp is hindered by this lack of being able to set up a tower in highsec yet we can still set up jump clones with several NPC corps.

And no the vat should not be placed outside the POS shields. Lets assume you just jumped in,your not in a ship. You need a hangar nearby. Now we could make a hangar in the vat large enough to hold escape pods and nothing else but being outside the shields would be a death sentence to any pilot stupid enough to undock if the tower is under siege.If we go with the normal and we dont get an escape pod when we jump in that means we'll have to have our clone vat within range of the ship hangar(s) so we can get access.

I think fitting of the vat should take up a bit of grid and CPU because this device has significan tactical value therefore should make fuel consumption high,specificly the ectoplasm.

I love the idea of POS clone vats and I hope CCP takes another look into the idea.I'm sure they have in the past but I think we are ready.

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