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Panzer
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Posted - 2003.06.14 02:54:00 -
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This can't be right; now i understand they nerfed all the weapon upgrades, but the hydraulic went from being the best projectile weapon upgrade to the second worse (1.176-1.065). Now this wouldn't be so bad if all the other projectile weapon upgrades were worst then this but the gyrostabalizer 1 is now 1.08. Ok wtf im confused, the hydraulic went from being the best weapons upgrade to the worse, and its still rare to find. I hope this is just a bug or a mistake. (note i understand they nerfed all the weapon upgrades)
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Panzer
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Posted - 2003.06.14 02:54:00 -
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This can't be right; now i understand they nerfed all the weapon upgrades, but the hydraulic went from being the best projectile weapon upgrade to the second worse (1.176-1.065). Now this wouldn't be so bad if all the other projectile weapon upgrades were worst then this but the gyrostabalizer 1 is now 1.08. Ok wtf im confused, the hydraulic went from being the best weapons upgrade to the worse, and its still rare to find. I hope this is just a bug or a mistake. (note i understand they nerfed all the weapon upgrades)
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Panzer
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Posted - 2003.06.14 02:56:00 -
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I did spend quite a bit of cash on them earlier this week and with the all of a sudden nerf to worst weapons upgrade, it kind of ****es me off :). If all the weapon upgrades were nerfed then at least the hydraulic should stay at the top of the list, atleast better then a gyrostabalizer 1 (not basic).
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Panzer
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Posted - 2003.06.14 02:56:00 -
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I did spend quite a bit of cash on them earlier this week and with the all of a sudden nerf to worst weapons upgrade, it kind of ****es me off :). If all the weapon upgrades were nerfed then at least the hydraulic should stay at the top of the list, atleast better then a gyrostabalizer 1 (not basic).
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Panzer
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Posted - 2003.06.14 03:25:00 -
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Also would like ot say thank you ccp you have screwed me over ina couple million isk in cash because you decided to nerf some items to crap without any warning. You know this is release, not beta. If people are going to spend tons of money and spend alot of time training for the skills to use that item (MWD) and all of a sudden they get super nerfed. A lot of people are going to be ****ed. CCp you need to slowly nerf items especially the mroe expensive rare ones or youll find a lot of ****ed people, like eve-ix.com.
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Panzer
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Posted - 2003.06.14 03:25:00 -
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Also would like ot say thank you ccp you have screwed me over ina couple million isk in cash because you decided to nerf some items to crap without any warning. You know this is release, not beta. If people are going to spend tons of money and spend alot of time training for the skills to use that item (MWD) and all of a sudden they get super nerfed. A lot of people are going to be ****ed. CCp you need to slowly nerf items especially the mroe expensive rare ones or youll find a lot of ****ed people, like eve-ix.com.
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.14 03:29:00 -
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Hydraulics were stupidly overpowered. This nerf was sorely needed to bring them back in line with other low-slot modules to the extent that using other types modules is actually a viable option for a good loadout now.
And no, I'm not a "waah m0o owned me with them" whiner or anything. I actually used 4x hydraulic stabilizers on my Moa for the last week or so. My record speed for killing a cruiser was 4.6 seconds (NPC) and 6.9 seconds (PC). I had three guns, each with a 9.8x damage modifier and a 2.3 second firing rate. I once hit a NPC cruiser for 610. That is not balanced, it's sick. I could kill most people in cruisers before they could even target me to fight back.
I worked out the numbers for my damage and decided against continuing to use my hydraulics, though it was a close call. They're still viable--not great, but not uselessly bad by any means.
Nobody should be complaining about this change. It makes combat longer and more strategic.
Of course, plenty of people prefer to ignore these points and parrot out something to the effect of "waah I hate CCP waaah they nerfed something give me a pacifier and some goatmilk waaaah." ___________________________________________
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.14 03:29:00 -
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Hydraulics were stupidly overpowered. This nerf was sorely needed to bring them back in line with other low-slot modules to the extent that using other types modules is actually a viable option for a good loadout now.
And no, I'm not a "waah m0o owned me with them" whiner or anything. I actually used 4x hydraulic stabilizers on my Moa for the last week or so. My record speed for killing a cruiser was 4.6 seconds (NPC) and 6.9 seconds (PC). I had three guns, each with a 9.8x damage modifier and a 2.3 second firing rate. I once hit a NPC cruiser for 610. That is not balanced, it's sick. I could kill most people in cruisers before they could even target me to fight back.
I worked out the numbers for my damage and decided against continuing to use my hydraulics, though it was a close call. They're still viable--not great, but not uselessly bad by any means.
Nobody should be complaining about this change. It makes combat longer and more strategic.
Of course, plenty of people prefer to ignore these points and parrot out something to the effect of "waah I hate CCP waaah they nerfed something give me a pacifier and some goatmilk waaaah." ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

Panzer
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Posted - 2003.06.14 03:32:00 -
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Yo setec did you read my rambling post at all :). I Don't care that they nerfed all weapon upgrades (well thats a lie) but thye made hydraulic stabalizers worse on second to basic gryos. Gyrostabalizers 1s are now better then hydraulics for some dumb reason. Please read my post before you replie even though i was rambling :).
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Panzer
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Posted - 2003.06.14 03:32:00 -
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Yo setec did you read my rambling post at all :). I Don't care that they nerfed all weapon upgrades (well thats a lie) but thye made hydraulic stabalizers worse on second to basic gryos. Gyrostabalizers 1s are now better then hydraulics for some dumb reason. Please read my post before you replie even though i was rambling :).
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Ulf Ulfsson
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Posted - 2003.06.14 09:55:00 -
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Why are you surprised by this? Every damn time I post I get people ranting about a single sentence in my post taken out of the context of the whole post. Its the nature of the forums sadly...
And Setec, I know it was in another thread but don't be a d*ck if people spell things wrong - not everyone on here has English as a first language and mocking people's spelling is VERY weak....
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Ulf Ulfsson
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Posted - 2003.06.14 09:55:00 -
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Why are you surprised by this? Every damn time I post I get people ranting about a single sentence in my post taken out of the context of the whole post. Its the nature of the forums sadly...
And Setec, I know it was in another thread but don't be a d*ck if people spell things wrong - not everyone on here has English as a first language and mocking people's spelling is VERY weak....
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Karma
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Posted - 2003.06.14 16:23:00 -
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**takes one sentence in the last post and goes with it**
that's human nature for you ;)
- Karma.
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Karma
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Posted - 2003.06.14 16:23:00 -
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**takes one sentence in the last post and goes with it**
that's human nature for you ;)
- Karma.
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Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.14 16:40:00 -
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Quote: not everyone on here has English as a first language and mocking people's spelling is VERY weak....
I don't pick on spelling just out of the blue and I realize that many people don't speak English as a first language. If you'll read that thread more carefully, you'll notice that I picked on someone who pretentiously called me a "mental midget" because I said that sometimes people used to run out of ammo far from stations. He didn't try to explain why he thought I was wrong or anything. He only insulted my intelligence and told me not to "embarris" myself like that. Can't you feel the irony? I'm sorry, but that was a perfectly appropriate place to ridicule his spelling. ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.14 16:40:00 -
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Quote: not everyone on here has English as a first language and mocking people's spelling is VERY weak....
I don't pick on spelling just out of the blue and I realize that many people don't speak English as a first language. If you'll read that thread more carefully, you'll notice that I picked on someone who pretentiously called me a "mental midget" because I said that sometimes people used to run out of ammo far from stations. He didn't try to explain why he thought I was wrong or anything. He only insulted my intelligence and told me not to "embarris" myself like that. Can't you feel the irony? I'm sorry, but that was a perfectly appropriate place to ridicule his spelling. ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

Slyworth
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Posted - 2003.06.14 19:06:00 -
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Hmmm
Edited by: Slyworth on 14/06/2003 19:07:47
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Slyworth
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Posted - 2003.06.14 19:06:00 -
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Hmmm
Edited by: Slyworth on 14/06/2003 19:07:47
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.06.29 15:53:00 -
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damn it
MAXSuicide > I LOVE U SIIM MAXSuicide > lets go outback for a quicky siim > that was so desperate attempt
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Finix Jaeger
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Posted - 2005.06.29 15:58:00 -
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And when there is no more place in hell, the dead shall walk the earth... ------------------------- Grand Agitator Currently homeless, mail or convo if interested
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Rodge
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Posted - 2005.06.29 16:35:00 -
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Wow! Did you wake up today and think "How many ancient threads can I bump before Eris notices?"
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Archangel Kane
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Posted - 2005.06.29 16:39:00 -
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IBTL
Sorry just had too 
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.29 16:45:00 -
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Santiago Cortes
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Posted - 2005.06.29 16:58:00 -
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Despite the thread being over two years old, we shall not be having a belated birthday party for it.
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