Valentina, I am sorry if I led you on. You know why I can't be with you. You're a sweet girl but you're just so....fanatic! I can't stand behind what you do.

I want to marry within the Tribe. Have a nice, cozy little place, enough kredits to not worry. Stay home and raise some little ones!

This mystic sensualism sounds a lot like pagan debauchery to me.

there's just nothing attractive about a man whose ass I can kick which I think nicely includes at least 99% of the male Capsuleer population.

... And I'm not talking about dogfighting, either.

Somehow I'm having a hard time believing this. My guess is that your bark is much worse than your bite.

No, no, encourage her! I'd love to see her box Verone.

Honestly, I think that we may be onto something with this whole 'baseliner dating' thing.

Truly?
Could you truly love someone you knew you would outlive by decades, if not centuries?
Could you watch them grow old and die? Could you watch your children and theirs do the same?
Mera......

Unit XS365BT Online.

We Return.

I don't mean to boast, I'm merely saying that if I were dating a man I would at least want a strong man. I didn't think that was such a ludicrous thing to suggest. I don't think that anyone in my Corporation, including our most prominent male member, would attest to by 'bark being worse than my bite'.

Wanting a strong man is completely understandable. Saying you can kick the ass of 99% of the male capsuleers seems more like grandstanding to me.

Point is, I find that many of the physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually integral men are baseliners. Plenty of Capsuleer men exist that have a few of these traits - it would be ridiculous for me to state otherwise.

Not all of us cut Mindflood with Blue Pill.

...preciously-guarded innocence (which is totally still intact)...

Ladies; if you are under the impression that female capsuleers are immune to the (very clearly existing) capsuleer psychological effects, you need to take a close look into the mirror and maybe talk to a spiritual adviser / psychological counselor / insert culturally appropriate equivalent here.

Seriously.

How deluded you have to be to think you are protected based on your gender alone? Or that all men are prone based on theirs? This is not a gender issue, it is an issue of personal integrity. I am sorry if your close associates in space do not include good men, but maybe with the way you speak about them you need to consider if you have something to do about it yourself.

Elsebeth

Agreed. My theory is the capsule has some sort of psychological effect on men, causing a shift toward aggressive primal tendencies so affectionately termed "psychotic idiot". I'm sure females suffer a similar issue, which likely explains why so many Capsuleer women act like baseliner men instead of a proper lady... myself included.

Or Hakatain-haan. That would be amusing.

Very dramatic statement. A bit unnecessary. There are a few points against, most important being cloning technology is serious expensive, but available to non-eggers. Might have to find person with same ideas about living forever, because it is not for everyone. But that is the case for eggers and baseliners alike. Is one more mine in relationship minefield to worry about, but it was pretty large to begin with.

I find this very... interesting...

The things people say when the public are watching...

I can take 'em both!

*Ava Starfire flexes*

grrr!

Point is, I find that many of the physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually integral men are baseliners. Plenty of Capsuleer men exist that have a few of these traits - it would be ridiculous for me to state otherwise. Indeed, I am sure there are many that get large ticks in all four boxes - but they don't compete with the numbers of female Capsuleers that would seek a relationship with one of their male peers.

Agreed. My theory is the capsule has some sort of psychological effect on men, causing a shift toward aggressive primal tendencies so affectionately termed "psychotic idiot". I'm sure females suffer a similar issue, which likely explains why so many Capsuleer women act like baseliner men instead of a proper lady... myself included.

I believe that someone made the comment of how there exists the epidemic of 'Space Lesbians'. From there the Thread divulged into a female perspective of why the epidemice exists, hence I think it is quite apparent why you're getting that tone from the thread, especially with the ratio of women responding.

Women most certainly aren't excluded from the psychological effects of being a pod pilot, but I also think that it's naive to think that there is no disparity between men and women. It looks like female capsuleers are having no problems pairing off with each other.

I'm not even sure why people, especially us, bother to cling to any particularly strong notion of physical identity. Has being infomorphs not cast aside such notions? Have we learned nothing from the dream-walk? A shame, truly.

I joyfully await the day such silliness is behind us and our souls can dance together.

Cloning technology may be, but infomorph technology is not available.

Or has not been available, rather. Nation has managed to make everyone in its ranks an infomorph, and thereby has beaten death.

The only reason it isn't being spread out amongst the rest of the cluster is that we have seen what you would do with it. We cannot, in good conscience, give you the means to beat death without you having first realized the wisdom of limiting your available choice of action for the good of everyone.

I hope, one day, we can feel like this has been achieved, so that we can share Nation's Gift with you.