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Satis Tyr
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Posted - 2008.06.04 07:17:00 -
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as it is now the learning skills represent an extreemly steep cost of entry to the game. As a new player I am terribly excited to get into the game and start working toward my goals. I am willing and eager to put in the hard work of becoming a competently skilled pilot, but when the first steps of that work are without direct gameplay rewards, I am unenthusiastic.
I propose that the learning skills be something that can be trained after a given amount of relevent directly game affecting skills are trained. This would be coupled with slightly higher attributes for new characters. A given learning skill would become available once a character has trained a certain ammount of skills with that learning skill's primary and secondary attributes. So if a character trained a threshold of gunnery skills they would then get to train the Perception and Willpower learning skills. This would give the learning skills the role of allowing a pilot to specialise after they have had a good amount of effective game time to decide where to do so without gimping them for putting off their learning skills.
I'll admit now that implementing this might be dificult and reimbursement to older players could be an issue but I belive that it will be CCP's job to ballance that.
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Iria Aristar
Blue Zenith Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.04 08:03:00 -
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/I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS
Addressing both points brought up by the OP
1. Learning skills are not extremely steep cost skills. Learning skills are 45 THOUSAND ISK for the Rank 1 skill and 4.5 MILLION ISK for the Rank 3 one. In no way are these totals even CLOSE to being steep. Consider the cost of a Battleship, 50+ million isk. Capitol ship? 1+ billion isk. The majority of players, new and old alike, shouldn't have any trouble making the ~30 mil for these skills within the first month and a half, and that's a generous estimate. I had ALL of the learning skills within 3 weeks of starting AND I PAID FOR THEM.
2. Under no circumstances should ANY skills, Learning or otherwise, become skillpoint sensitive. Example; gaining the learning skills as you train in skills that use the attribute. Doing this would totally destroy the current skill system, and would require no less than a total overhaul of every charater in the database. NO.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.04 08:20:00 -
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meh, I kinda trained some learning skills, some combat skills, some support skills as I saw needed in the beginning, learning skills were rather low in importance. I also flew into lowsec, and flew ships I couldn't afford to lose (of course not into lowsec, I read the damn warnings). about a month or two in they were 4/3, I was flying a drake completing level 3 missions with no problems, thats when I went for 5/4
eves golen rule, don't listen to them blabbering idiots in the nub corp chat.
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Megan Maynard
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.06.04 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Megan Maynard on 04/06/2008 08:29:45
As much as I don't like learning skills.........
I can see why someone who doesn't have patience to train these not being able to handle the game as a whole.
Eve is not instantly gratifying, you have to use your head to make some isk. Or win in pvp.
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Irista Ari'star
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Posted - 2008.06.04 09:38:00 -
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Edited by: Irista Ari''star on 04/06/2008 09:39:38
Edited by: Irista Ari''star on 04/06/2008 09:38:34
oops wrong toon
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Iria Aristar
Blue Zenith Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.04 09:40:00 -
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I got them on a recommendation of a friend, my first friend in EVE actually , didn't start training them till my 3rd or 4th month. Trained one or two, then trained something else. Repeat ad nausem, I actually finished the Learning tree about 9 months ago. 5/5 Across the board... another 2 and a half years till I see that training pay off 
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.04 17:02:00 -
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No. Just no. Learning skills are fine as they are, we don't need to see them get more complex just to punish alts(since it's not like this helps anybody).
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.04 19:42:00 -
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Mmmmm...no. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing learning skills go the way of the Dodo but creating an entire new system of restrictions just for them is...dumb.
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Rouque Vanderbuilt
Nuts and Bolts
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Posted - 2008.06.04 20:55:00 -
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No
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Indra Set
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Posted - 2008.06.05 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: Indra Set on 05/06/2008 00:44:35
accidential alt post.
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ceyriot
Induseng Enterprises
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.05 05:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
eves golen rule, don't listen to them blabbering idiots in the nub corp chat.
Yes, and don't support this thread.
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Reven Zero
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Posted - 2008.06.05 05:53:00 -
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working as intended, no change necessary.
the only think I'd like to see if a rack 5 skill and maybe some new more advanced stat skills, though again this is not necessary
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Theramin Dogon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.05 05:56:00 -
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What a lonely thread, I will support you little guy 
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