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Abel Tellor
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.09 20:16:00 -
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You know what IGÇÖd like to see happenGǪIGÇÖd like some big alliance with the knowledge, man power, financial ability, and competence to come clean up Jita.
I envision this alliance moving into or nearby Jita and setting up shop. They then start patrolling Jita. Anyone caught camping outside a station or gate gets war decGÇÖd, and then in 24 hours, the fury gets unleashed. As they find non war targets violating this rule, they war dec them as well. Just keep the decGÇÖs coming. Have a gank squad to take out those in NPC corporations. Turn Jita into a war zone as opposed to a suicide bombers haven.
I donGÇÖt know much about PvP, but I donGÇÖt expect that this would be very difficult as these Jita folks are gankers GÇô not PvPGÇÖers. IGÇÖd imagine a PvP alliance would dominate, as well as get some new recruits from the publicity. WouldnGÇÖt surprise me at all if they received some financial backing from the carebears whoGÇÖd like to see Jita reformed as well.
I know this is a pipe dreamGǪbut nothing would make me happier than to see this take place. I donGÇÖt PvP, but I would certainly do whatever was in my abilities to help this alliance. Be it freighter support, recruitment, donating my profits from trade, supply ships at costGǪwhatever I could possibly do. Shoot - maybe even become a disposable tackler for some fleet.
This would make me smile...
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.03.09 20:28:00 -
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Abel Tellor wrote:I donGÇÖt know much about PvP, but I donGÇÖt expect that this would be very difficult as these Jita folks are gankers GÇô not PvPGÇÖers. IGÇÖd imagine a PvP alliance would dominate, as well as get some new recruits from the publicity. WouldnGÇÖt surprise me at all if they received some financial backing from the carebears whoGÇÖd like to see Jita reformed as well.
And that's why this won't happen. The only pvp you get from gankers are ganks you manage to pull off yourself. People who don't enjoy ganking won't bother to play a ganking game against gankers. People who like ganking probably will gravitate to the exact activity you are attempting to squash.
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Vandy ColdStone
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.09 20:40:00 -
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I think it might be fun for a while. After time though it would not be worth the isk anymore.
Would need alot of donations.
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Abel Tellor
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.09 20:42:00 -
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Do you think the gankers would be able to financially outlast the alliance? |
CausticS0da
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.09 20:57:00 -
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Start a corp and do it yourself. You'll fail, but you'll enjoy failing. Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
363
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Posted - 2012.03.09 22:55:00 -
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I would like to see the highsec alliance that could wardec every corp or alliance that camps jita and not get their **** pushed in so hard they cry themselves to sleep every night for the next six months.
I also hope you realise that the only way to prevent people from camping jita would be to camp jita. |
Abel Tellor
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.09 23:00:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:I also hope you realise that the only way to prevent people from camping jita would be to camp jita.
right - but they wouldn't be ganking folks. At least...that's the idea anyway.. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
363
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Posted - 2012.03.09 23:29:00 -
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If suicide ganking is what you are worried about consider this: the solution wars preventing suicide ganking ganking would be to drop your ganking characters out of corp into NPC corps meaning the only way to attack them is via suicide ganking.
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
246
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Posted - 2012.03.10 01:19:00 -
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Meh...
There are several high-sec wardec corps that sit on Jita 4-4, wardec everyone in EvE, and gank to their hearts content. Taking them on is a PITA, because they use assloads of Neutral RR to keep their **** alive, and frankly, station games in high sec, with neutral RR get really, really boring.. |
Garven Dreis
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
Stay Calm Don't Panic
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Posted - 2012.03.10 06:23:00 -
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Abel Tellor wrote:Assorted ganked tears.
So what happened? What made you want this outcome? Post Mail? |
Meridith Akesia
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
92
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Posted - 2012.03.10 11:40:00 -
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Gankers are gankers. By definition you dont get fights from gankers. |
Abel Tellor
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.10 12:41:00 -
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Garven Dreis wrote:Abel Tellor wrote:Assorted ganked tears.
So what happened? What made you want this outcome? Post Mail?
No - nothing like that. I've never been the victim of a ganking, but I also don't tempt fate. I avoid Jita like the plague. I just got to thinking of this idea on my way home from work the other day. Pipe dream, but one that I think would be interesting. Seeing an all out war in Jita. |
cratais
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.10 13:44:00 -
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Another reason it won't work is sheer numbers if you plan on forming an alliance and war deccing every corp in jita thats a heck of alot of people your probaly looking at a least 4k people so you would need a rather large alliance to match the numbers they will be able to bring and good luck trying to get that since most the high sec pvpers are probaly already in these corps.
But lets say you are actually able to manage to get a large enough alliance together half your alliance will be made up of new people with little or no pvp experiance with the other half having a fair amount of pvp experiance going up against alot of people who know what they are doing when it comes to pvp.
So two things will end up happening
1. you will get the alliance going get into jita get curb stomped pretty badly in the first fight and most the people that joined your crusade will get mad and leave.
or 2. if by some miracle your alliance is actually able to win the first engagement all these people in the corps you war decced will just drop into npc corps continue ganking while laughing cause you spent billions in isk on dec fees and there is no one to fight and in about a week everyone who joined you will get bored and leave and then the gankers will rejoin what ever corp they was in and continue to gank either way it will end up being a total failure. |
Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER
Monkey Circus
52
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Posted - 2012.03.10 13:59:00 -
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Abel Tellor wrote:Do you think the gankers would be able to financially outlast the alliance?
What do gankers have to lose? Disposable suicide ships. |
Batelle
HOMELE55
47
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Posted - 2012.03.11 02:52:00 -
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you're an idiot. Big deal, you're too dumb to avoid getting ganked in Jita. BMost people aren't even bothered because they understand the game.
My reaction to the tier system and skill tree overhaul https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=899560#post899560 |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1786
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Posted - 2012.03.11 03:17:00 -
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The CCP Gods gave us Tornados just for this purpose.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1062
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Posted - 2012.03.11 23:03:00 -
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Nevermind wardecs. Put together a group with sec status to burn and just gank everything that warrants ganking. No warning, just blow up their stuff and watch the tears flow. |
Halete
Almost Epic
13
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Posted - 2012.03.12 07:20:00 -
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+1 just for an interesting idea to push the sandbox, no matter where you stand on suicide gankers.
Generic small-time hero-tackle pilot with no relevance. |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2012.03.12 19:48:00 -
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Abel Tellor wrote:
I donGÇÖt know much about PvP, but I donGÇÖt expect that this would be very difficult as these Jita folks are gankers GÇô not PvPGÇÖers. IGÇÖd imagine a PvP alliance would dominate, as well as get some new recruits from the publicity. WouldnGÇÖt surprise me at all if they received some financial backing from the carebears whoGÇÖd like to see Jita reformed as well.
Hi-sec wars are pretty much based off of who can out camp the other and usually not much more. The fact that these people have experience with camping stations and gates hours at a time just to get one kill and you don't already means you don't stand much of a chance. |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
117
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Posted - 2012.03.13 09:18:00 -
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Jita is place where EVE end game pvp happens.
Welcome to end game! |
Borun Tal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.13 18:12:00 -
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Nothing is stopping you from doing so. Have at it. :)
ps: and you can't wardec neutral RRs and NPC corp gankers. So you'll have to gank THEM, and deal with the inevtiable -10's that have to leave to go ratting in low to get their secy status BACK UP just to start ganking again. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
366
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Posted - 2012.03.13 19:09:00 -
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Not all neutral RR comes from NPC corp alts, so fairly often you actually can wardec it, not that you need to because you can shoot it as soon as it starts doing anything. |
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