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Crellion
Art of War
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.06 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 06/06/2008 12:47:56
Enyo was the first tech II shp I ever flew (back when my Raven's torps were IT against frigs) and I have tried 6 of them in the intervening years... 8 with my alt.
ADVICE: AFs are the worst ship in eve in handling an mwd (CSs come close but not as bad and for them mobility is not as important). In 2008 EvE mwd is everything and can be found on almost every non capital ship in pvp. AFs can not be used for their intended role with their current mass/speed/agility stats.
EDIT: Actually what Aran Tellen says its a good idea too. if they cant be arsed fixing AFs they can take them out altogethe rand make them Assault destroyers... at list the Retribution, Wolf, Enyo and Hawk and keep the more pvp useful ones (Ishkur, Harpy, Jag.. and Male) as they are...
Their roles are not supposed to be niches (like: shoot noobs who never before flown a ceptor and dont knwo about Harpy bonuses and are busy lokking in a wreck). Those niches are simply suppposed to differentiate between AFs. For the AF as a CLASS th role is not a niche one but a very broad one: "Heavy duty frigating" Same as HACs are heavy duty cruisering etc
In this intended role they fail. Why? Because in a day when most people flew in T1 frigates with AB and cruisers with no speed mods other than the Thorax, CCP over...erm... balanced AFs in the mobility department to make tech 1 frigs EQUALLY USEFUL, or almost. Today this is no longer necessary or applicable. In fact it has been so for a good 2 years at least...
In a nutsell: ever since the Thoarx was nerfed by taking away it's 8 heavy drones or soon thereafter the AFs should have been given IDENTICAL mass and agilitty with the tech 1 frig hulls they originate from and then kept their low base speeds. AF+MWD=2xINTY+AB... this should have been the formula more or less and its simply not the case... a shame...
On a final note I especially despise the term @finding a unique role@ which seems to be CCP's role of saying "we can not do our job properly" these days. PvP ought to be about dynamique groups being only... say 50% less effective than pre - planned groups. But with all this uniue role business it ends up being so that pre-planned riid groups are 10x more effective which is ashame... anyway I am transgressing and becoming obtuse for the average reader so I ll quit qhile I am (nominally) ahead...
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:18:00 -
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Increase Assault ship dps by 50%. I don't care if they're slow - I just want my friend to tackle the target - and I warp to him and fire away.
That is all.
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Miranda Ceres
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:18:00 -
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1) Reduce AF mass across the board to t1 frigate level
2) Give each AF a real 4th bonus... perhaps a tanking bonus in line with the race for one ship, a damage bonus for the other. E.g. Ishkur gets a tanking bonus, Enyo gets a damage bonus.
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