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Techtriz
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:26:00 -
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Dear CCP
After readin the feedback on the balance changes and trying it out myself there is one thing I really have to tell you guys, no more wrappin it in etc etc.
DO NOT PUT IN THOSE CHANGES!
Please understand that FRIGATES are ALREADY VERY hard to hit IF they use MWD (or even a close frigate with no AB/MWD).
If you do not agree.... WELL GO TRY IT YOURSELF PLEASE?
The changes you purpose will make battleships useless for anything else then killing indys/titans OR a battleship that is sitting still, that dosn't happen offen.
If im only gonna be able to hit a damn cruiser at my optimal with 1400mm with one outta my ten shots then im outta here and I know damn well that alot of people agree with me.
And yes there might be a ****load of people complaining about them being killed by battleship while in frigates, but hell yeah if they don't fit properly it should be easy to kill their ship.
You want balance, well watch out with that nerf hammer on the battleship, because if those changes comes in game I hardly see a reason to using battleships anymore.
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:28:00 -
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Can i have your loot? ^^
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Vangelis
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Posted - 2004.05.09 00:33:00 -
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Agreed!
As i have posted in earlier threads firagets are already great combat ships
What ppl fail to realise in terms of hitting targets frigates are NOT fighter jets that are small they are still 40-60m long ships not nible little single man fighters. If u cant hit somthing that is 60m long then u got problems.
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.05.09 01:10:00 -
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CCP know (hopefully) that frigs in terms of cost vs usefullness is already massive. They are getting a lot of negatives as well with these changes from what I gather with the removal of cruise missles and 1mn mwd taking same cap (~1/5) like the other mwd's so cannot be run indefinitly.
There are some other suggestions like making turret bonus now apply to the whole group for ships, eg a small turret on a BS wil do less dmg then on a frig becuase of ship bonus for eg.
Your correct in the analogy - frigs are not fighter jets, they are navy frigates and not un-hittable even with large turrets (as long as the transversal speed is low enough - ie they are stopped or heading directly away/towards you)
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Kerosene
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Posted - 2004.05.09 04:48:00 -
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I think that's the point...
BS's > Cruisers
Cruisers > Frigates
Frigates > BS's.
Get all 3 in a fleet.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.05.09 05:05:00 -
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I slightly recall having read a similar discussion some months ago when a big change was imminent and people screamed for days about how Battleships would become totally useless. Well, they didnt. People adapt. Cant see that you offer any sensible solution as well.
Its so easy to pop a frigate when you're in a battleship. Drones ring a bell? And those wrecking hits just make me park that frig in the garage again.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Dufas
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Posted - 2004.05.09 05:17:00 -
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I like cheese
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Naqq
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Posted - 2004.05.09 05:28:00 -
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For the zombie dude: You obviously dont know how to fly a frigate nor fit one, so hush my friend.
Otherwise I can only agree and inform everyone that haven't noticed(one of the posters) that heavy drones have been nerfed.
As to the idiot who says something about getting all 3 kinds of ships in the fleets, yea sure they already are if u want effective scramblers you damn retard, maybe u should try reading and trying the patch i refer to, when u miss the first 40 shots with ur rails on a scorp moving at max speed with only a 100MN AB at ur optimal range you'll understand.
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2004.05.09 06:30:00 -
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Nawww
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Neko Makai
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Posted - 2004.05.09 07:12:00 -
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I want to say STFU, but i think thats just flaming... The reason why battle ships sux against frigs is cuz they arnt set to kill frigs, simple as that. I bet if u wernt all copped out to take out BSs you could kill a frig with ease. BSs arnt friggin multipurpose kill em all, mine em all machines (although it turned out that way anyways).
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GuardianKnight
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Posted - 2004.05.09 07:58:00 -
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While i can see a purpose to nerf SOME battleships , there are some that will trully be useless if nerfed again...Look at amarr for instance omg cap usage changes coming up, lasers suck, now you want frigates to be able to jump a battleship with ease....
Utter and total BS, Scorpion = fighting machine for instance, apocolypse will die to the scorpion with great ease because this game is setting a BATTLESHIP to only be useful in rat spawns and mining...
I think if you nerf amarr again , you should nerf EVERYTHING...take the frigates down to shuttle level if you want them to be fast and invincible so when I do actually hit them they just die.
I get to sit in a big ass hunk of metal with a target painted on my ass saying "hey look at me my cap is drained and my weapons suck" . So they just hop in a frigate and call in a few friends to jump me .
Rant? nay sir...
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.05.09 08:05:00 -
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You people should begin to understand that battleships werent meant to be swiss army knives as they currently are, thus the nerf bat is coming down hard.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.09 08:22:00 -
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There's a thread for this in Patch Review.
My opinion?
The frigate changes go too far and, when combined with the tracking-based-on-radius-size changes (which were meant to help cruisers), they make frigates far too good.
Just list the advantages and disadvantages of using a frigate and you'll see why they are being over-tweaked.
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Jera
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Posted - 2004.05.09 08:29:00 -
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.05.09 08:31:00 -
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I had the sudden urge to perform a really bad Frankie Howerd impression just now......
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Mandros Aslay
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Posted - 2004.05.09 09:38:00 -
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Joshua showing his age methinks 
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Fuse
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Posted - 2004.05.09 09:46:00 -
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I disagree with people that think battleships are not meant to be versatile. IT IS A BATTLESHIP!!! Hello!?!?! We pay ALLOT more for them and they have been nerfed enough. Frigates are already the mainstay of many fleets. If nothing else we need splitter mods for Battleships that would let us mount more weapons. Hitting a frigate moving over 1.1 k with a mwd is difficult enough. If you guys can't beat a battleship with 6+ frigates that is your problem and your incompetence. DON'T NERF WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT THE GAME. Please. |
Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.05.09 09:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Viceroy
You people should begin to understand that battleships werent meant to be swiss army knives as they currently are, thus the nerf bat is coming down hard.
new discription on frigates = swiss army knife  ?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:39:00 -
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mhh thy should make cruisers more usefull in combat, make them the frigates killers thy should be, atm a cruiers isnt very good at killing frigs and the only usefull cruiers for combat are the caracal and bb 
Wanna fly with me?
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.05.09 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: Bohr on 09/05/2004 10:58:15
/emote thinks of countless space movies and computer games where frig class wings take out the big battleships, with a couple losses  even the DEATHSTAR . But that's another story.
I allways loved that part of a good spacebattle :-D
"edit" like Nafris idea in fact :)
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