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![An Anarchyyt An Anarchyyt](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1696395983/portrait?size=64)
An Anarchyyt
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:39:00 -
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Because if it is, I want a serious answer as to why this has been changed now. And me and my 35 accounts demand it!
Patch notes:
"# Joining a Fleet with a player who is currently involved in a war will no longer make you a valid target in that war. CONCORD will now respond if a player who is not involved in a war is aggressed within a gang in High Security space."
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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![Shadow Joy Shadow Joy](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1480322932/portrait?size=64)
Shadow Joy
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt Because if it is, I want a serious answer as to why this has been changed now. And me and my 35 accounts demand it!
Patch notes:
"# Joining a Fleet with a player who is currently involved in a war will no longer make you a valid target in that war. CONCORD will now respond if a player who is not involved in a war is aggressed within a gang in High Security space."
Pick up gangs for factional warfare.
Next question?
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![An Anarchyyt An Anarchyyt](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1696395983/portrait?size=64)
An Anarchyyt
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:44:00 -
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Terrible excuse.
Anyone not stupid?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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![Akita T Akita T](https://images.evetech.net/characters/776304952/portrait?size=64)
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:50:00 -
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Yes, the lofty scam in its current form is dead. I give it, oh, about a week tops before somebody comes up with a method to circumvent this too. Next question ? ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
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![Chainsaw Plankton Chainsaw Plankton](https://images.evetech.net/characters/733671405/portrait?size=64)
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:53:00 -
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![Sicil Fioet Sicil Fioet](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1258180204/portrait?size=64)
Sicil Fioet
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt Terrible excuse.
Anyone not stupid?
gms tired of answering petitions about gang war dec scam that doesn't give victims any warning if you gang war targets afterwards and makes players very paranoid and averse to helping out random newbies in local or each other in general? how is this?
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![MotherMoon MotherMoon](https://images.evetech.net/characters/202990180/portrait?size=64)
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:18:00 -
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Honestly I don't see what is wrong with this change to war decs and ganging, I mean I've been fighting in 0.0 where this changes nothing.
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![An Anarchyyt An Anarchyyt](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1696395983/portrait?size=64)
An Anarchyyt
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon Honestly I don't see what is wrong with this change to war decs and ganging, I mean I've been fighting in 0.0 where this changes nothing.
Thank you for that entirely irrelevant response. I move that Jade mutes you.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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![Surfin's PlunderBunny Surfin's PlunderBunny](https://images.evetech.net/characters/220512235/portrait?size=64)
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:21:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 09/06/2008 06:22:28 Seems there's only 1 dimwit here that doesn't know why... ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
And hey look, it's a goon! What a surprise ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
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![Jita Jolene Jita Jolene](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1906865888/portrait?size=64)
Jita Jolene
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt Because if it is, I want a serious answer as to why this has been changed now. And me and my 35 accounts demand it!
Patch notes:
"# Joining a Fleet with a player who is currently involved in a war will no longer make you a valid target in that war. CONCORD will now respond if a player who is not involved in a war is aggressed within a gang in High Security space."
I'm bawlin for ya man! *weeps*
Oh noes!
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![An Anarchyyt An Anarchyyt](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1696395983/portrait?size=64)
An Anarchyyt
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 09/06/2008 06:22:28 Seems there's only 1 dimwit here that doesn't know why... ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
And hey look, it's a goon! What a surprise ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
I know, I'm not as cool as a wannabe goon. However, I didn't ask why, I asked "why now".
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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![Furb Killer Furb Killer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1437418581/portrait?size=64)
Furb Killer
USC Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:35:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 09/06/2008 06:34:46
Quote: Is this saying what I think It is saying?
Nop you dont get free food ![Shocked](/images/icon_eek.gif)
(assuming that is what you thought it was saying).
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![Alt Sauce Alt Sauce](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1643843045/portrait?size=64)
Alt Sauce
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 09/06/2008 06:22:28 Seems there's only 1 dimwit here that doesn't know why... ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
And hey look, it's a goon! What a surprise ![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
I know, I'm not as cool as a wannabe goon. However, I didn't ask why, I asked "why now".
It had to come sometime, whats wrong with now?
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![An Anarchyyt An Anarchyyt](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1696395983/portrait?size=64)
An Anarchyyt
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Alt Sauce I know, I'm not as cool as a wannabe goon. However, I didn't ask why, I asked "why now".
It had to come sometime, whats wrong with now?
What was wrong with the first patch after the lofty scam came about? What was wrong with taking it out instead of putting a warning?
See, we can all answer questions with another question.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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![Quelque Chose Quelque Chose](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1448865182/portrait?size=64)
Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt Terrible excuse.
Anyone not stupid?
No dude. That's the official reason.
Well, that and the fact that that mechanic did exactly **** all besides enable the scam. So yes, your older- than- dirt subsidized scam is history. Have a good cry about it. ___________________________________________
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![DubanFP DubanFP](https://images.evetech.net/characters/147795262/portrait?size=64)
DubanFP
Four Rings Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:44:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 09/06/2008 06:45:07
Honestly I'm usually the first person to be brutal and ruthless to players who don't check these things out. I'll kill them any day, but the fact this mechanic was useless. The problem isn't that it let people exploit newbies and kill them by getting them in your gang. It's that that's the only thing the mechanic was good for. It's not like you could join a gang and expect to do anything besides get ganked when/if you get called primarie.
That and the fact that it meant you couldn't even trust anybody enough to join a gang with them was kind of deconstructive in the long run. I mean there really was just no point in keeping it, at all.
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Originally by: Akita T Yes, the lofty scam in its current form is dead. I give it, oh, about a week tops before somebody comes up with a method to circumvent this too. Next question ? ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
I don't think people will find a way to circumvent it. I think people are just going to find a different way no less effective then the last one. To the op, quit complaining, adapt, and find a new way. You're almost as bad as the carebears in your unwillingness to adapt. _______________
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![An Anarchyyt An Anarchyyt](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1696395983/portrait?size=64)
An Anarchyyt
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: An Anarchyyt Terrible excuse.
Anyone not stupid?
No dude. That's the official reason.
Well, that and the fact that that mechanic did exactly **** all besides enable the scam. So yes, your older- than- dirt subsidized scam is history. Have a good cry about it.
Yes, and the official reason can't be a stupid excuse?
But your Jungian analysis there is a bit lacking. I don't know if you know, but Goonswarm doesn't have any serious empire presence, and I haven't even played in a few months as I am in Brooklyn and on some ****ty ass internet connection training Cap Skills.
So, you should really step it up with the attempted trolling, because I give that one about a 1/10, it's old, been done numerous times, and wasn't that good in the first place.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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![Quelque Chose Quelque Chose](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1448865182/portrait?size=64)
Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.09 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt *
Well, OK. ![Smile](/images/icon_smile.gif) ___________________________________________
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![Khandara Seraphim Khandara Seraphim](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1251634703/portrait?size=64)
Khandara Seraphim
StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.06.09 07:26:00 -
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I don't know why you're being so rude when people are more or less answering the question you asked...
Why?
Lofty scams were stupid and needlessly cruel to newbies (yes, even by Eve standards)
Why now?
Because the mechanics of Factional Warfare opens the door for this to be abused even more than it already is. What was lame, but tolerable, before could become a serious problem in Empyrean Age so they slammed the door on it.
That's... all there is to it. Smacktalk all you want but the answers you requested are right there.
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![Cruthensis Cruthensis](https://images.evetech.net/characters/153211969/portrait?size=64)
Cruthensis
Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.06.09 08:55:00 -
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The gang-war-invite-gank (aka: the lofty) trick killed ganging dead.
You just couldn't gang with ANYONE you didn't know pretty well and trust completely, which (imho) rather defeated the point of something which should have been allowing folks in local to get to know each other, have a laugh and enjoy the game.
Anyway, I'm officially hijacking this thread now ![Twisted Evil](/images/icon_twisted.gif)
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![Jolliejoe Jolliejoe](https://images.evetech.net/characters/795529531/portrait?size=64)
Jolliejoe
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Posted - 2008.06.09 09:43:00 -
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Hey, you are a goon... expect stupid answers on ingnorant stupid questions....
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