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Admiral Apex
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:49:00 -
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title pretty much says it all. from the description harb = dps and proph = more tank oriented. what id really like to hear is something like "the harb is fine for 0.0 ratting" or perhaps "the harb is better than the proph for 0.0 ratting"
id like to hear some opinions. GO!
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Admiral Apex
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Admiral Apex
title pretty much says it all. from the description harb = dps and proph = more tank oriented. what id really like to hear is something like "the harb is fine for 0.0 ratting" or perhaps "the harb is better than the proph for 0.0 ratting"
id like to hear some opinions. GO!
so i looked at the attributes for each, and it looksl ike the harb is just better in every respect. i guess i have my answer, unless anybody feels like elaborating.
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Crellion
Art of War
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:58:00 -
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if you have good skills tank becomes less and less relevant for belt ratting. so harb > Proph but if you have any prophs lieing around no one will use them anyway so you might take it ratting if you are not close to a good market to sell it...
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:06:00 -
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Yeah you said it yourself, ship tiering almost always, if not always, favors the highest tier ship since it has more slots, fitting, HP.
I'd tell you use something with drones or missiles though, preferably an ishtar, cerb, sac. You may be able to make it an active tanked nossing vexor too, depends on the weight and faction of the rats.
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Admiral Apex
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Erotic Irony
Yeah you said it yourself, ship tiering almost always, if not always, favors the highest tier ship since it has more slots, fitting, HP.
I'd tell you use something with drones or missiles though, preferably an ishtar, cerb, sac. You may be able to make it an active tanked nossing vexor too, depends on the weight and faction of the rats.
im gonna be hittin up sansha rats (good for melting with my lasers.) im also probably gonna be doing this mucho f the time in a gang of 2.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Apex
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Yeah you said it yourself, ship tiering almost always, if not always, favors the highest tier ship since it has more slots, fitting, HP.
I'd tell you use something with drones or missiles though, preferably an ishtar, cerb, sac. You may be able to make it an active tanked nossing vexor too, depends on the weight and faction of the rats.
im gonna be hittin up sansha rats (good for melting with my lasers.) im also probably gonna be doing this mucho f the time in a gang of 2.
Even better, two vexors with ten damage bonused drones! About the same damage as two BCs and cheaper, faster and room for salvagers. ^__^
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Admiral Apex
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Apex on 09/06/2008 13:24:35
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Admiral Apex
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Yeah you said it yourself, ship tiering almost always, if not always, favors the highest tier ship since it has more slots, fitting, HP.
I'd tell you use something with drones or missiles though, preferably an ishtar, cerb, sac. You may be able to make it an active tanked nossing vexor too, depends on the weight and faction of the rats.
im gonna be hittin up sansha rats (good for melting with my lasers.) im also probably gonna be doing this mucho f the time in a gang of 2.
Even better, two vexors with ten damage bonused drones! About the same damage as two BCs and cheaper, faster and room for salvagers. ^__^
so im playing around with eft, whats supposed to go in the middle slots? all i got so far is a mwd. what else should i put there(when i cant think of things to put in mid slots i usually put cap chargers.)
keep in mind this is for optimal rattage.
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Admiral Apex
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Apex
Edited by: Admiral Apex on 09/06/2008 13:24:35
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Admiral Apex
Originally by: Erotic Irony
Yeah you said it yourself, ship tiering almost always, if not always, favors the highest tier ship since it has more slots, fitting, HP.
I'd tell you use something with drones or missiles though, preferably an ishtar, cerb, sac. You may be able to make it an active tanked nossing vexor too, depends on the weight and faction of the rats.
im gonna be hittin up sansha rats (good for melting with my lasers.) im also probably gonna be doing this mucho f the time in a gang of 2.
Even better, two vexors with ten damage bonused drones! About the same damage as two BCs and cheaper, faster and room for salvagers. ^__^
so im playing around with eft, whats supposed to go in the middle slots? all i got so far is a mwd. what else should i put there(when i cant think of things to put in mid slots i usually put cap chargers.)
keep in mind this is for optimal rattage.
battery perhaps?
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:33:00 -
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Cap rechargers are probably the best bet as your fit is going to somewhat powergrid heavy with a med rep, nos and MWD. Harden for their damage and maximise cap recharge, always stay moving and you'll mitigate the damage. You can use this site to evaluate their optimals.
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Admiral Apex
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Apex on 09/06/2008 13:55:26
Edited by: Admiral Apex on 09/06/2008 13:53:06
yeah so after fooling with eft i did decide that cap chargers were petty juch the only thing i could fit. with level 4 fitting skills (adv weapon at 4) and level 4 drone dmg skills this is what i get. also, for some reason on eft, advanced drone specialization for races wasnt increasing my dps. dont know what that is about. this also has gunnery skills at 4
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises
Babylon Project
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:04:00 -
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Edited by: Keitaro Baka on 09/06/2008 16:06:28
Your image sucks.
Also I have used both for 0.0 ratting and the harb is fine for 0.0 ratting. The prophecy is better, easier and only takes a wee bit longer, but I fit a nice heavy missile to offset that.
Prophecy > Harbinger for pve for me.
edit: no reppers.. if you get someone else to tank then yes a harb is better, obviously, since it pushes out more damage
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Ereshkygal
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:36:00 -
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i'd go with the following
1 sar II
2 em hardener II
1 therm hardener II
2 heatsink II
1 10mn MWD II
3 cap recharger II
7 Heavy Pulse laser II (an multi)
1 small NOS II
5 hammerhead II
tank is sturdy enough for ratting to be honest and you kill pretty quick.
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c4 t
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Posted - 2008.06.09 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: c4 t on 09/06/2008 18:57:33
Edited by: c4 t on 09/06/2008 18:56:00
Originally by: Ereshkygal
i'd go with the following
1 sar II
2 em hardener II
1 therm hardener II
2 heatsink II
1 10mn MWD II
3 cap recharger II
7 Heavy Pulse laser II (an multi)
1 small NOS II
5 hammerhead II
tank is sturdy enough for ratting to be honest and you kill pretty quick.
thats pretty interesting ill think about it. it is a little hard to believe though that a sar could keep up with like 2 battleship dps. but i guess if you kill them fast enough it wont matter.
is there any particular reason you went hammerheads instead of infiltrators? sanshas is extra weak to em dmg.
tbh id probably go with my fit just in case i get jumped by a pirate or something id have perhaps more of a chance.
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