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Aria Jenneth
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.24 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 24/06/2008 15:11:25
Well, here's a thought: declare peace and allow Caldari Prime to be repopulated with a sizeable Caldari majority. Then, move your own titan into the system.
Poof. Strategic equality.
I know it's not that easy, but it'll keep the balance a sight better than attacking the State as best you can and praying that you don't do so well that the madman (according to popular Gallentean theory) in power decides that if he can't keep the Caldari homeworld, he'll just take yours away.
I'm not sure I can imagine a scenario by which you'd be able to destroy the Leviathan without at least a 30% chance of losing Gallente Prime, assuming that its presence there isn't a bluff. I imagine those odds are unacceptable to the Federal leadership.
The scenario I suggested above may seem unreasonable and/or unrealistic to you, but I submit to you that it's better than transparently trying to set up a situation in which Caldari Prime can be retaken, particularly since, if Heth is half as mad as you think he is, you'll REALLY be in trouble if you succeed.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.06.24 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Vision on 24/06/2008 15:19:34
Captain Scarlet,
it is unfortunate that you are killing those who are actively supporting your own views.
The lunatic must be gone.
What you are doing is treason to the state, you are supporting the lunatic - Mr. Heth - by defending his area of influence. YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR THE PRESERVATION OF POWER OF A MAD DICTATOR. You can try to make it look different with a million words, but that fact remains. There can be no excuse!
Let me recommend to you the following:
If you can not bring yourself to fight alongside the Gallente, at least do not support Mr. Heth.
If you want to do something good, you can always join the Amarrians in their fight against the tribal terrorists. So while this might not help in the fall of the lunatic, it is at least a morally good deed.
Best regards,
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Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.06.24 15:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Victor Vision
Captain Scarlet,
it is unfortunate that you are killing those who are actively supporting your own views.
Federation invaders into Caldari space most certainly do not "support our views." Our view is that the sovereignty of the Caldari State must not be endangered, whether by a power-mad dictator or by invaders from foreign nations. We do not want anything like the Gallente "democracy," nor is it any of the Federation's business to tell us what sort of government we should have in any case. If Heth is to be removed, it must be by Caldari forces, or else it will simply make him a martyr to his misguided supporters, and this cycle of violence will never end.
Originally by: Victor Vision
What you are doing is treason to the state, you are supporting the lunatic - Mr. Heth - by defending his area of influence. YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR THE PRESERVATION OF POWER OF A MAD DICTATOR. You can try to make it look different with a million words, but that fact remains. There can be no excuse!
Do not presume to tell me what is treason against the State, sir. We are not defending Heth, we are defending Caldari space. If the Federation would concentrate on defending its own borders, rather than on invading sovereign Caldari territory, both the State and the Federation would be much better off. The invasion of Luminaire was extremely ill-advised, but invading Black Rise or other Caldari territory is just as foolhardy.
We do not wish to see our State submit to the control of any foreign power, and we will vigorously defend against that possibility no matter the aggressor above all other concerns. The State must be allowed to deal with its own affairs -- unfortunately, while Federation ships violate our border with impunity that is nearly impossible to do.
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wah bok
Copperhead Arsenal
The Fourth District
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Posted - 2008.06.24 20:33:00 -
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Our duty is to the state first and foremost.
how would moving to amarr territory in any way help keeping any gallante agressor out of state territory ?
While We appreciate our amarr allies, do not presume to dictate us how we are to act in our effort to keep the caldary citizens safe from foreign powers.
Any necessary changes must come from within, and can never be brought forth by any foreign powers if it is to last.
Therefore we will fight to the last to win this war. only then can we hope to change what must be changed.
But in the end it will be a Caldari decision what is to be done and how.
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Thorradin
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.24 22:22:00 -
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Welcome to Black Rise CAIN and Cold Wing. I trust since you will not take part in retaliatory strikes into Federation space, you will be working at all times to ensure destabilized systems have their areas secured properly by State forces?
I hope if nothing else, Ladel considers leading some of the fleets. Denying his abilities to the militia is the best thing that could happen to the Gallente at this point, as I trust he is not rusty.
You and the other Liberals may not like Heth or his authority, but regardless of what you personally believe, his position is no less legitimate than the CEOs and others who came before him and put our State into the economic situation that gave rise to him.
Enjoy the sights, and watch for the nano-gangs that the Gallente rely so heavily on.
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Ayari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.06.24 22:41:00 -
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I think you'll find that after nearly a year operating in Triumvirates back yard, we're more than ready for the 'nano' onslaught.
Been there, done that.
For the State!
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Van Cleef
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.06.24 23:17:00 -
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Its is a slippery slope to navigate when one decides that in order to save something, he must go to such drastic lengths that before long he ends up destroying what he was he wanted to save.
I do not fight for Heth, and I do not support his actions. Heth has, however, sent the State into harms way for whatever motivations he holds.
With such an enemy at our gates - regardless of why - I have no choice but to defend that gate against whatever threatens what I love so dearly. The decision to suspend The Fourth District activities was not one taken lightly and hopefully will not be an extended one.
However, CAIN is now free from CONCORD levies, and we will be able to strike at our Federation invaders with all our might in unrestricted warfare.
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Jude Kopenhagen
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.06.25 01:33:00 -
[38]
Excellent.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.25 03:14:00 -
[39]
I for one will be interested to see the reaction of the Caldari people when the source of his financing, and his true colors show through publically and all is brought to light.
Interesting... yeah... very interesting times lie ahead.
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Strikeclone
The Steel Ravens
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Posted - 2008.06.25 04:15:00 -
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Its been a long damn time since I bothered to post but I feel I have to say something in reply to this "Press release"
What a bunch of fence sitters.
"we don't like Heth waa waa heÆs bad"
This sentiment will ensure that the 4th District can be proved right if Heth is laid low at some future point.
"but we will leave the 4th District in order to sign up and fight and defend stuff..."
And this sentiment counters the first just enough to deflect any accusations of treason, disloyalty etc.
Its no secret to some that there is old bad blood between older cain pilots and myself, it may shock some of those who know me that I did once attempt to bury the hatchet with cain a long while ago (all done behind closed doors) But even then they couldn't get over themselves and so it is now.
Either fight or don't fight, but please stop ****ing and moaning about it, right now this whole thread reads a bit like a Star Fraction thread. Lots of leading comments and waffle to either try to make a (weak) point or to so baffle the reader with bullsht that he will agree with the op so that he does not have to admit to not understanding the topic.
I am not going to paraphrase in any detail nor argue the point with cain, their invincible ignorance is legendary, honestly all they really are missing are the hooded cloaks...
Anyway good hunting, I don't actually care why you fight the hated gallente just as long as you do.
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Tomahawk Bliss
The Aegis Militia
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.06.25 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I for one will be interested to see the reaction of the Caldari people when the source of his financing, and his true colors show through publically and all is brought to light.
Interesting... yeah... very interesting times lie ahead.
I am impressed by your magical powers.
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Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.06.25 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Strikeclone
Useless drivel.
I thought you'd forgotten about us. We'd certainly forgotten about you. And will again in fairly short order.
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Strikeclone
The Steel Ravens
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Posted - 2008.06.25 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Mattar
I thought you'd forgotten about us. We'd certainly forgotten about you. And will again in fairly short order.
Thats the best you can do karl "doesn't" mattar? Those grapes must really be sour eh? How could I forget my greatests fanbois that is cain after all the fun we have had over the years. Never.
Like I said fight or don't fight just stop whining about it.
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Orun Erajen
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.06.25 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: Orun Erajen on 25/06/2008 19:21:14
Originally by: Strikeclone
Some weak puns and a frankly awful attempt at a wine metaphor.
Didn't you... retire or fall under a monorail or something, or was that only one of my fondest imaginings?
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Aria Jenneth
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.25 19:29:00 -
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No, he just retired from capsuleer political activity for a bit, Mr. Erajen. It's good to see you back, Strikeclone, but considering the circumstances I don't suppose it would be possible to keep the friendly fire to a minimum?
Ah, well. A little rivalry in the corps isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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Karl Mattar
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.06.25 19:42:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Strikeclone
Originally by: Karl Mattar
I thought you'd forgotten about us. We'd certainly forgotten about you. And will again in fairly short order.
Thats the best you can do karl "doesn't" mattar? Those grapes must really be sour eh? How could I forget my greatests fanbois that is cain after all the fun we have had over the years. Never.
Like I said fight or don't fight just stop whining about it.
Such spite. Seriously, posting in a thread just to try and steal some limelight is really bad form. Stop whining yourself, or I won't give you the attention you think you deserve anymore.
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Orun Erajen
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.06.25 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth
No, he just retired from capsuleer political activity for a bit, Mr. Erajen.
Allow me to assure you that however long he retired, it wasn't long enough.
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Orun Erajen
LeHane Family Representative and Capsuleer Liason |
Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.25 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 25/06/2008 22:31:41
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
Originally by: Verone
I for one will be interested to see the reaction of the Caldari people when the source of his financing, and his true colors show through publically and all is brought to light.
Interesting... yeah... very interesting times lie ahead.
I am impressed by your magical powers.
Magical, no... but for a man to rise through the ranks of such a competitive and capitalist society so quicky, and with so much backing... some things always lie in question, and I tend to be suspicious and intrigued by those things that are left unexplained.
Personally... I have my doubts that Heth is the one in control, and is more of a puppet doing the work publically of someone who prefers to remain anonymous.
Still, it's nice to see you're back on the IGS and still talking the same adolescent slush and nonsense as usual.
Then again, what can one expect from an Ammatar when such nonsense as the Amarr faith is sucessfully rammed down your throat. It's even more amusing as an outsider when yourself and your "people" willingly bend over and take it like a good slave boys from the Empire.
Just another piece of Matari worker meat with a number branded on your ass.
Honestly, I'd give you more of my time for an in depth response, but I value the fedo **** a REAL Matari scrapes off his boot in higher regard than a blood traitor such as yourself.
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Strikeclone
The Steel Ravens
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Orun Erajen
dribble
And you are?
And your working/posting on behalf of whom?
I did indeed take a break from the public arena, it happens to famous and popular individuals when their fans become obsessive and stalker like.
I simply had to say something in reply to this grand release, and I have said my piece those that know will understand, strangers to me like yourself will just have to contine on somehow in your ignorance. 
@ Aria Jenneth,
Its good to be back (on the forums) I look forward to many other meaningful exchanges with the butchers,... that is loyal State pilots of cain and co.
Meanwhile in space TSR shall continue to do what we do best, kill the enemy only this time its for Heth and home not for any clients.
I actually do wish cain good hunting, common enemy and all that.
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Van Cleef
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:33:00 -
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While it seems apparent that some people are happy to be cannon fodder and cheerleaders for Heth, we are not. It isn't crying or some sort of temper tantrum that has brought CAIN to this position. Our State has been hijacked by a dictator. That dictator's actions have put the State in a position of harm, and that is the primary focus of CAIN right now.
Onlookers, commentators and has beens aside, this is about our mission to defend the State - not to provide exposure.
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Strikeclone
The Steel Ravens
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Posted - 2008.06.26 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Van Cleef
While it seems apparent that some people are happy to be cannon fodder and cheerleaders for Heth, we are not. It isn't crying or some sort of temper tantrum that has brought CAIN to this position. Our State has been hijacked by a dictator. That dictator's actions have put the State in a position of harm, and that is the primary focus of CAIN right now.
Onlookers, commentators and has beens aside, this is about our mission to defend the State - not to provide exposure.
So why the big leading post complaining about Heth and all the naughty stuff he has done, if your so opposed to the new legitimate rulers of the Caldari State why get involved now? Last I heard you was out in null sec pushing your particular brand of Caldari to the lawless and doing it well with the 4th district.
You will have to forgive me if I wonder at the tone of this release, it smacks of giving aide and comfort to the enemy by way of showing dissent and dis-loyalty to the current regime. Dissent and dis-loyalty are qualities I know cain have been quick to attribute to certain other pro-Caldari (but not pro-cain version of Caldari) corporations and units.
I just find it ironic is all. You are content to murder thousands of fellow citizens at a whim when it suited the old scumbag regime of corrupt and decadent fat cats. Now they have been removed in such a way that is totally in keeping with the Caldari way of doing things and your all upset about it.
Really are you bothered about Heth or is it just your lost prestige and position. I was going to make some supportive comment about how I don't think of cain as "has beens" but I realise I have just talked myself into agreeing with you.
cain are has beens, more akin to some Amarrian fanatical behemoth unable to escape their own dogma and adapt to change and thus doomed to die out.
With any luck you will take some of the feds with you.
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Boma Airaken
Yurai-Tenshin Zaibatsu
Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2008.06.26 11:20:00 -
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That was quick.
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Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.06.26 12:56:00 -
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Our position has not changed; there is no precedent for such concentrated power in the hands of one man in the State, and this is both unwise and illegitimate. We continue to support the legitimate government institutions of the Caldari State, but we will not take orders from them until such time as Heth's shadow government is disbanded and removed from power. This was our position a month ago and it is our position now.
What has changed is that it is clear that Federation incursions into Caldari space cannot be halted in the manner we had originally planned; the number of invaders simply makes that infeasible, and CONCORD interference only compounds the problem. Our registration as Caldari militia forces is a purely bureaucratic measure to ensure that we can engage Federation forces whenever and wherever possible. We are not subject to the Directorate's chain of command, nor are we supporting the regime of Tibus Heth, we are defending the citizens and territory of the State. I will note that if we were as "inflexible" as our detractors claim, we would not be taking this step at all.
As far as accusations this is over some sort of "lost prestige and position," I am unaware of any such loss -- the Fourth District and its corporations never had any official position with the Caldari government, nor have we ever done anything for "prestige." Our concern, from our founding, has been the preservation of the Caldari State, nothing more. If we have "lost prestige" in doing what is best for our nation, that is of little concern to us. These press releases are about clearly stating our position, not clamoring for fame. That sort of nonsense is reserved for small men who are incapable of accomplishing anything but bold pronouncements and empty words, people we have quite had our fill of over the last three years.
For those of you who think that Heth has bought about some sweeping revolution to clear out the "corrupt fat cats" that were destroying us, ask yourself how many of those you think were responsible for the "downfall" of our society that he has actually gotten rid of, if that was his intent? Heth does not care about making the State strong again, he only seeks to accumulate power for its own sake and waste the blood and budget of the State on narcissistic crusades and pointless wars. It seems that the only man who did care about the integrity of the Caldari State on the CEP is dead.
The State must be secure. When that goal is accomplished, we will deal with internal matters. For everyone loyal to the State, and not to a single man, that should be their only concern. Prove your point on the battlefield or crawl back into your hole, because the rest of us have work to do.
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CAIN Chief of Diplomatic Staff
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Vieve Tisserand
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.06.26 13:05:00 -
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I will admit to taking some pleasure in seeing the 4th grappling with its conscience. Yours is not as ... cinematically clean a fight.
The State has the homeworld of the Civire and Deteis back, and apparently hold over what seems a wild and beautiful area of space, from what precious little I have had liberty to explore. One would think the State would be sated, and thus content to settle back on its haunches and bite at the fleas that worry it.
One would think.
But too many of the dogs of war do not seem satisfied with their own yard, their own toys or their own food. Ah. It is what it is, and we need do what must be done, hmm?
I do take some comfort in knowing that CAIN and COLD-Wing will not be in Federation space because of greed or gluttony. Perhaps your presence will help dissuade those who are.
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Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.26 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet
Our position has not changed; there is no precedent for such concentrated power in the hands of one man in the State, and this is both unwise and illegitimate. We continue to support the legitimate government institutions of the Caldari State, but we will not take orders from them until such time as Heth's shadow government is disbanded and removed from power. This was our position a month ago and it is our position now.
And my question to you remains is how is the CPD and Tibus Heth illegitimate when the the structures you agree are legitimate chose to support it?
There is no precedent for a unified Caldari government in the past 225 years, quiet possibly more. We regularly allow single individuals to control huge corporations like Lai Dai, Ishukone, and Hyasyoda which is a huge concentration of power - some of them with little to no training other than their family had the right connections. Heth seems to have had some connections.
The CPD and Tibus Heth are not a shadow government; quiet the contrary they are very much in the open and the 8 megacorporations signed up to work with it. That makes it legitimate. The Caldari Independent Navy Reserve and their pod pilot alliance the Fourth District have never had the authority to claim what was legitimate outside their own organization, just as Lai Dai can not declare the legitimacy of a what happens in SuVee, Ishukone, or any other corporation in which they do not hold stock. The megacorporations could at any time decide to dissolve the CEP, CBT, House of Records, and Caldari Navy and replace it with the State Directorate.
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Stitcher
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Nederland
The CPD and Tibus Heth are not a shadow government; quiet the contrary they are very much in the open and the 8 megacorporations signed up to work with it. That makes it legitimate.
Not necessarily. The Provists are very powerful people, Nederland-haan. Take Hatakan Oiritsu, for example - the former Kaalakiota CEO. She had every reason to be opposed to Heth's rise to power, not least because he managed to embarrass her in front of the whole State when she ordered the Home Guard to kill him and got somebody else instead, making Heth look like a hero in the process. Not that it was particularly smart to order said assassination in the first place.
The point being, Oiritsu had every reason not to co-operate with Heth, and yet of all the megacorporate CEOs, she was the one who signed over her power to him and retired. I understand she's not been seen in public ever since. I can't help but find that suspicious.
Even Heth's assumption of leadership at CC was... interesting. The company was purchased legally right at the point where its stock hit rock bottom, wholesale. I doubt there are very many capsuleers who could afford to do that, let alone low-grade MTAC pilots paid in Caldari Corporate Credits, as opposed to the Interstellar variety we're used to.
Whatever else Heth's leadership over the State may be, his "legitimacy" is shaky at best, in my eyes.
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Dex Nederland
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.26 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dex Nederland on 26/06/2008 16:01:16
Originally by: Stitcher
Not necessarily. The Provists are very powerful people, Nederland-haan. Take Hatakan Oiritsu, for example - the former Kaalakiota CEO. She had every reason to be opposed to Heth's rise to power, not least because he managed to embarrass her in front of the whole State when she ordered the Home Guard to kill him and got somebody else instead, making Heth look like a hero in the process. Not that it was particularly smart to order said assassination in the first place.
The point being, Oiritsu had every reason not to co-operate with Heth, and yet of all the megacorporate CEOs, she was the one who signed over her power to him and retired. I understand she's not been seen in public ever since. I can't help but find that suspicious.
Even Heth's assumption of leadership at CC was... interesting. The company was purchased legally right at the point where its stock hit rock bottom, wholesale. I doubt there are very many capsuleers who could afford to do that, let alone low-grade MTAC pilots paid in Caldari Corporate Credits, as opposed to the Interstellar variety we're used to.
Whatever else Heth's leadership over the State may be, his "legitimacy" is shaky at best, in my eyes.
Oh come on... how did the 'hero', Otro Gariushi become CEO of Ishukone, what was he before rising to such a high office? What subsidiary did he run before rising to be CEO of 1 of the big 8? Did his predecessor not have every reason to not cooperate with him?
The boards of directors of the corporations choose their CEO, for whatever reason that may be.
By questioning the legitimacy of Tibus Heth's appointment as CEO of KK, Ytiri, or CC you may as well question the appointment of every CEO in the State and the corporate governance of the State. You are in effect also questioning the legitimacy of the CEP and its subsidary corporations that function as government for the State, these CEOs are appointed by the directors of the CEP - representatives from the Big Eight. The Federation government moved beyond questioning the legitimacy of the State's government more than a century ago, so why are you, someone I assume raised within that structure now questioning its legitimacy.
I am not saying you can't decide whether it is right or wrong, but it is legitimate whether or not you think it is right or wrong.
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To comment on why State forces will enter Placid - there are 8 systems in Placid that have Caldari State corporate assets (to include 2 Caldari Business Tribunal stations) that clearly need defending from both the Federation itself and Guristas raiders, who have ably demonstrated the ability to raid Federation space on two occasions that made it to press. Secure lines of supply must also be maintained to these assets. Essence also has Caldari State corporate assets, part of which is in Concord controlled space and thus protected by the Emergency Militia War Powers Act from being occupied by State forces.
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Stitcher
Duty.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 16:12:00 -
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Alright, I'll concede you that everything thus far has been above board and legal. but "questionable" can be a very different thing to "illegal".
You're quite right, Otro Gariushi's appointment as Ishukone CEO was equally questionable, but at the same time Gariushi was a man of unquestionable nobility and integrity. Tibus Heth is anything but.
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Derrys
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2008.06.26 19:16:00 -
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The issue with Heth is not strictly one of legality. One can imagine a gradual process whereby the State is transformed into the Federation by a long succession of small changes, each of which are, at the time, perfectly legal, and yet I don't think any loyal Caldari would hesitate to say that such a transformation would be a travesty.
This is the case with Heth. It's not merely the legally questionable aspects of his rise to power, it's the fact that he is turning the State into something unrecognizable, something completely divorced from the social and economic foundations of the society which has served us for over a century. Issues of legality will be settled within the legal framework, but issues of legitimacy can and must be decided by citizens of good conscience.
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.06.26 21:45:00 -
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* An amused smile crosses Jonny's face *
Seeing CAIN and Cold... something or another... dance at the moral high-ground whilst begging at the feet of a dictator is amusing in the least, perversely hilarious at most.
In one breath, you spit on the current regime controlling the State, while at the same time you declare your undying loyalty to defending your people. This would be an admirable first step, had it come from anyone else, dear Svetlana. You have, after all, cursed others who have made the same distinction (APEX for example). You just come off looking hypocritical, short-sighted, and petty; which you are.
The worst (and most amusing) part of it is, right after spending so much galnet real-estate railing against the regime running the State, in your next breath, you throw yourself into their service! Like a bug on a pin, you are transfixed by your past statements to a course you know is wrong. Your path, should you be allowed to follow it to it's conclusion, will strengthen the dictator and lead to the destruction of all you love. The Revolution, of course, can't allow that (for the good of the Caldari people) so us killing you and breaking your stuff will be (by your reasoning) all for your own good. Marvelous!
* Jonny laughs heartly and thinks for a moment, then leans into the camera, as if spreading a great secret *
I would, however, be remiss if I didn't again underline one of this morality plays many lessons: The things you believe in most may be lies, and only a fool follows lies once they are proven so.
Love and Ganking, dear puppets!
Jonny D.
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