| Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Varitus
   |
Posted - 2008.06.09 19:59:00 -
[1]
Currently I'm just flying Matar ships but I want a few new options to play with. I'm thinking primarily of e-war and second of the cross faction ships (Vindicator, Mach, etc).
Problem is, the obvious choice, Gallente, has less then stellar e-war from what I hear. Cal brings the e-war but no cross faction ships. As for Ammar, cap war is mean and the cross faction stuff goes with it, but I don't know much about them in general.
So heres the question. What second faction should I train? I'm planing on using them both pvp and pve so marauders are a factor here too. Also not sure if FW is adding any cross faction stuff. Any suggestions?
|
Noelle Fay
RIMTECH
NOVA GOTISCHES IMPERIUM
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 20:05:00 -
[2]
Jove are kinda good..
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
The secret to success, whether it's women or money, is knowing when to quit. I oughta know: I'm divorced and broke. |
Tamoko
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 20:59:00 -
[3]
It's by no means a black and white situation. It's really going to boil down to personal preference or aesthetics.
A few notes compared to Minmatar...
Gallente
+ Share many Gunnery skills.
+ Share many Drone skills.
+ Share some Mechanic skills.
Amarr
+ Share many Gunnery skills.
+ Share Mechanic skills.
Caldari
- May require Shields cross-training.
- Will require Missiles cross-training.
When you look at it like that, the only thing Caldari have going for them is their (at present) favourable ECM ships. As a result, whether you train or dis include Caldari completely should boil down to how important ECM is to you. Take a good look at the Blackbird, Kitsune, and Falcon. Coincidentally, specializing heavily into these ships will not require you to cross train heavily into missiles or shields.
Alternatively, training down the Gallente or Amarr paths will allow you to specialize heavily into armor tanking, gunnery, and drones, without turning your existing Matar skills into wastage.
---
|
Jenny' JoJo
State War Academy
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 21:02:00 -
[4]
I think Gallente is good because they have good close range bs. One of the best long range snipers and drone ships which are very good.
I think Caldari have weapons that do not use capacitor but Sacreledge seems good since it is a caldari ship. Also the Gallente Curse is a good droneship as well.
Refresh to see next real life CCP Sig(25 total) |
Steve Celeste
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 21:06:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Jenny' JoJo
Sacreledge seems good since it is a caldari ship. Also the Gallente Curse is a good droneship as well.
Just can't go wrong with this advice. 
|
Gram Hellfire
Smoking Hillbillys
Paxton Federation
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 21:08:00 -
[6]
I was originally caldari, but cross trained amarr early. I found myself flying almost exclusively amarr ships.
|
Tamoko
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 21:08:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Jenny' JoJo
I think Gallente is good because they have good close range bs. One of the best long range snipers and drone ships which are very good.
That's hardly conclusive. Amarr get two very nice short ranged battleships and arguably the best alpha-strike capable sniper in the game.
---
|
Shell Guardian
Aperture Science Center
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 23:05:00 -
[8]
Originally by: Jenny' JoJo
I think Caldari have weapons that do not use capacitor but Sacreledge seems good since it is a caldari ship. Also the Gallente Curse is a good droneship as well.
*smacks head*
|
Amastat
Omegatech
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 23:08:00 -
[9]
Edited by: Amastat on 09/06/2008 23:12:13
Edited by: Amastat on 09/06/2008 23:08:33
Originally by: Tamoko
It's by no means a black and white situation. It's really going to boil down to personal preference or aesthetics.
A few notes compared to Minmatar...
Gallente
+ Share many Gunnery skills.
+ Share many Drone skills.
+ Share some Mechanic skills.
Amarr
+ Share many Gunnery skills.
+ Share Mechanic skills.
Caldari
- May require Shields cross-training.
- Will require Missiles cross-training.
When you look at it like that, the only thing Caldari have going for them is their (at present) favourable ECM ships. As a result, whether you train or dis include Caldari completely should boil down to how important ECM is to you. Take a good look at the Blackbird, Kitsune, and Falcon. Coincidentally, specializing heavily into these ships will not require you to cross train heavily into missiles or shields.
Alternatively, training down the Gallente or Amarr paths will allow you to specialize heavily into armor tanking, gunnery, and drones, without turning your existing Matar skills into wastage.
I would think if he cross trains CAldari, wouldn't he ALREADY have all of those skills???
Minmatar shield tank on many of their ships (Mealstrom), and a lot of their ships use missiles as a secondary weapon for extra damage (Tyhpoon). If anything, that makes the Minmatar most compatible with Caldari, or at least as compatible.
Assuming he has the skills to properly fly a Mealstrom and a Typhoon, he already has pretty much all the skills to fly Caldari.
The other two races would require gunnery training in the very least.
You also forgot to mention that he needs to train gunnery skills.
So, your looking at, assuming he can fly any t1 Minnie ship he wants effectively, he'll have Projectile Skills, Armor Tanking Skills, Shield Tanking Skills, Drones, and Missile Skills:
Gallente: Hybrid Skills, Ship Skills
Amarr: Energy Weapon Skills, Ship Skills
Caldari: Ship Skills
____________________
"All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu |
Varitus
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 23:20:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Amastat
Minmatar shield tank on many of their ships (Mealstrom), and a lot of their ships use missiles as a secondary weapon for extra damage (Tyhpoon). If anything, that makes the Minmatar most compatible with Caldari, or at least as compatible.
Thanks for the input all.
Ya, for the most part skill sets don't factor in since I'm Matar. Mostly its down to preference it seems and I'm leaning twords Ammar. Gallente have some nice ships but nothing that I don't already have access to role wise with the mini stuff.
Probably not gonna make my decision until after I see if FW adds something intersting Gallente wise.
|
|
|
Guillame Herschel
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
|
Posted - 2008.06.09 23:25:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Varitus
Currently I'm just flying Matar ships but I want a few new options to play with. I'm thinking primarily of e-war and second of the cross faction ships (Vindicator, Mach, etc).
Those are the two best pirate ships in the game. A Gallente/Minmatar cross-trained pilot has access to both of them. Seems a simple choice to me: Gallente.
-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then --
|
Segge Bolled
Rainy Day Industries
|
Posted - 2008.06.10 01:21:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 09/06/2008 23:26:10
Originally by: Varitus
Currently I'm just flying Matar ships but I want a few new options to play with. I'm thinking primarily of e-war and second of the cross faction ships (Vindicator, Mach, etc).
Those are the two best pirate ships in the game. A Gallente/Minmatar cross-trained pilot has access to both of them. Seems a simple choice to me: Gallente/Minmatar can pilot Angel and Serpentis faction ships. Cross-trains with the other factions gets you only one set of pirate ships.
Precisely this. At the very least, power your way up the Gallente ship skills first to gain access to the most relevent set of Pirate ships for a Minmatar, the Angels. The Cynabal and Machariel are most excellent indeed.
Then, if you like, you can train up Hybrids and then examine the Serpentis (Vigilant, Vindicator) ships.
Meanwhile, once you can play with the Angel pirate ships, then think about chasing down Caldari ECM, if you really want to. Just remember that nothing lasts forever, only as long as the next nerf!
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |